no but I've seen being john malkovich.........
Wonder if I'm the only one who thinks that was a crap movie?
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no but I've seen being john malkovich.........
nothing to stop new itk posters from appearing - they just need to confirm their bonafides with a bit of credible info and bimbambom they're on the list......IMO, we've only got 3 actual ITK's and i've got a feeling 2 of them won't have much info from now on. I look forward to more occasional good mail from TRP, but besides that i'd be happy for the "Info" train to slow down here.
I'm a patient being and don't need to know tomorrows news today. Especially when tomorrow often brings a different day.
Step 1: Post your ITK infonothing to stop new itk posters from appearing - they just need to confirm their bonafides with a bit of credible info and bimbambom they're on the list......
people got swept up in the charlie kaufmann thing pretty quickly then adaptation happened and whooshker........Wonder if I'm the only one who thinks that was a crap movie?
I've never challenged your final point. I think the coach has a bit more say in match committee, and I would propose that the fact we didn't get Ellis tells you SOS had a pretty firm voice and was only overruled by a significant majority (e.g. Betts).
I still find it funny people are latching onto the Liddle-Ellis connection now as a conflict while blindfolding themselves to the Teague-Eddie decision which was an identical relationship given Teague used to coach Eddie.
Assuming Liddle is not lying this confirms SOS knew about the interaction with Ellis and how it would go down.
That is all it is saying.
Still a list place.
nothing to stop new itk posters from appearing - they just need to confirm their bonafides with a bit of credible info and bimbambom they're on the list......
A panel to select staff is not the same as needing a panel to select players.
What you are suggesting is akin to needing a panel to decide on a game plan. You hired the coach to execute his vision. He lives and dies by that. He has assistant coaches providing input and he takes what he wa ts from that input.
Same with a recruiting manager. He can't be everywhere so others attend games and provide vision and analysis initially, they narrow down their list and then the manager goes and sees for himself.
How would anyone here feel if SOS had a vote on how Liddle should perform his role as CEO? Not qualified right .... ?
You are right about the Teague/Eddie conflict but as a former Carlton player and much loved by the supporters, there are conflicts everywhere with Eddie.
Aside from that, the coach should definitely have more input than the CEO.
The reality is we have heard a guarded response on 1 side of the story. While there is nothing to be gained from it , it would be interesting to hear SOS take on things.Assuming Liddle is not lying this confirms SOS knew about the interaction with Ellis and how it would go down.
That is all it is saying.
Assuming Liddle is not lying this confirms SOS knew about the interaction with Ellis and how it would go down.
That is all it is saying.
I know nothing of the truth of the Ellis/Betts/any other controversies. IMO they are completely irrelevant to SOS's departure.I don't agree with your view that Carlton is somehow cursed with being a bad place for people to work - the world doesn't work like that. Carlton is no worse or better than any other football club. I just think when it comes to treating with people - that respect for a Carlton legend who has done a great job - wasn't afforded by an interloper with no credentials and his pet familiars.
But may not have agreed with chasing Ellis himself.
is pretty much how it works..........Step 1: Post your ITK info
Step 2: get shouted down by all and sundry
Step 3: ITK info comes true
Step 4:.....
Step 5: Batlogo
I don't see a coach requesting a player that they have already coached (especially on a low, 1 year contract at the cost of a future 4th round pick) as a 'conflict'.
We don't have a great record with Coaches requesting players they have coached to be traded in: McLean and Thomas. At least this one hasn't cost much.I don't see a coach requesting a player that they have already coached (especially on a low, 1 year contract at the cost of a future 4th round pick) as a 'conflict'.
what animal will I be likened to you if I pledge support for liddle?
that better not be true...........Someone very much more observant than me pointed out that something has been removed from the wall in the Carlton Boardroom.
We don't have a great record with Coaches requesting players they have coached to be traded in: McLean and Thomas. At least this one hasn't cost much.
Players are employees though or to use another word, staff.
And given the way Teague has passed the game plan to the players there is certainly more than one person involved in how it will eventually look. If the business has decided that a sub committee will make decisions on who to employ based on consensus or majority rule then that is the lie of the land. Maybe that structure became untenable for SOS but it doesn't necessarily make the structure wrong.