Merged Draft threads - Part 2

[LukeParkerno1]

Hope we get Kane Lucas next year

 

[Burzum]

Hope we get Kane Lucas next year

Doubt we'd finish low enough.

I like the look of Tom Scully though.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Doubt we'd finish low enough.

I like the look of Tom Scully though.

Don't mind him either, we should be trying to get Lucas though! His disposal is better than Rich and that is saying something.

 

[Hislop200]

A friend of mine is an ex AFL footballer and has a bit to do with junior football, he knows a bit about Kane and said he doesnt know if he will make it, because he wont put his head over the ball or do the one percenters.
Guess we will have to wait and see

 

[Burzum]

A friend of mine is an ex AFL footballer and has a bit to do with junior football, he knows a bit about Kane and said he doesnt know if he will make it, because he wont put his head over the ball or do the one percenters.
Guess we will have to wait and see

I saw Lucas chase hard for 50 metres in the champs against VM.

 

[Windas_Magic]

Would be great if we traded Lovett + pick 23 for pick 12-15 so we could get Hartlett with our first pick and hope Trengove falls to the second pick.

 

[Hislop200]

If you also have a close look at him in that game he doesnt get in many contests

 

[ant555]

I admit my memory isn't what it used to be but i don't think it's at the stage where i insert things that didn't happen....yet...lol

I have the game on tape so i will have a look when i get a chance and i was only talking about the one game that i have seen him play.

I didn't make a judgment about his kicking overall but only in the one game i have seen him play.

You see way more of them than me so i am happy to bow to your better knowledge.....but i will be checking the tape

The tape will reviel a couple of clangers and a grubber kick

 

[Enki]

Here's a question for Ant if you see it, is Hartlett much quicker than Ziebell? You draft profiles seem to indicate he is and that he has better skills than Ziebell, which is what I would go with if we went with a mid and Hartlett was available. But I have also heard others say Hartlett isn't really that much faster than Ziebell, if at all.

I like Ziebell's strength around clearances and his over head marking but if Hartlett is noticably faster and classier I'd prefer him if he fell to us (which may not be likely). Ziebell could be good or he could just be a reasonably paced utility and we already have enough slower players.

Just wondering if there is a noticable difference in speed between them?

 

[ant555]

Here's a question for Ant if you see it, is Hartlett much quicker than Ziebell? You draft profiles seem to indicate he is and that he has better skills than Ziebell, which is what I would go with if we went with a mid and Hartlett was available. But I have also heard others say Hartlett isn't really that much faster than Ziebell, if at all.

I like Ziebell's strength around clearances and his over head marking but if Hartlett is noticably faster and classier I'd prefer him if he fell to us (which may not be likely). Ziebell could be good or he could just be a reasonably paced utility and we already have enough slower players.

Just wondering if there is a noticable difference in speed between them?

Hartlett has him done for pace reasonably easily.
Ziebell is not all that quick. He has reasonable 20 meter pace but he is not a player that takes blokes on with a bounce. He is more of a James Hird type midfielder. Strong mark, good when the ball is in his area and good vision. hurt's sides with his disposal rather than pace.
I didnt think my draft profiles indicated that Hartletss skills where better. From memory i think i said both have excellent skills.

 

[Enki]

I didnt think my draft profiles indicated that Hartletss skills where better. From memory i think i said both have excellent skills.

No I don't think you did, I think I heard that from someone else. But if Zeibell's skills are very good then the lack of pace may not be a big issue. I'd probably still take Hartlett over Zeibell from what little I've seen and been told, but if Zeibell has just as good skills I'd be happy with him too as he has talent.

 

[Windas_Magic]

Hartlett has him done for pace reasonably easily.
Ziebell is not all that quick. He has reasonable 20 meter pace but he is not a player that takes blokes on with a bounce. He is more of a James Hird type midfielder. Strong mark, good when the ball is in his area and good vision. hurt's sides with his disposal rather than pace.
I didnt think my draft profiles indicated that Hartletss skills where better. From memory i think i said both have excellent skills.

If you had the choice between the two, is there one that you would prefer over the other?

 

[GoldenboyHird_5]

If you had the choice between the two, is there one that you would prefer over the other?

Through watching limited vision of Ziebell I definitely agree with ant that he has that Hird model about him. The overhead ability plus the uncanny clearance work brings back some good memories. The hair is pretty similar too plus the neat socks

 

[Burzum]

I can't decide who I want anymore.

I think I'll stick with Hartlett

 

[ant555]

If you had the choice between the two, is there one that you would prefer over the other?

Probably Hartlett because of his pace. With Ziebell the danger is we end up with too many around the same or average pace in the middle.
I would have no problems with drafting Ziebell . Very good player.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

If Ziebell's footskills are a lot better than Hartletts I'd prefer him, we are really lacking in this department with the exception of Mcveigh, Lovett and maybe Myers we don't have enough midfielders with elite kicking skills.

 

[ant555]

If Ziebell's footskills are a lot better than Hartletts I'd prefer him, we are really lacking in this department with the exception of Mcveigh, Lovett and maybe Myers we don't have enough midfielders with elite kicking skills.

Well they are not a lot better. Both are very good .
I would not say lovett had great foot skills. He can miss just as many targets as a few others in our side.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Well they are not a lot better. Both are very good .
I would not say lovett had great foot skills. He can miss just as many targets as a few others in our side.

IMO Lovett's execution is pretty good, but his decision making is lazy. BTW Whats Harlett's overhead marking like?

 

[ant555]

IMO Lovett's execution is pretty good, but his decision making is lazy. BTW Whats Harlett's overhead marking like?

Lazy is pretty much how you describe most aspects of Lovett. Be it non skilled or poor/lazy decision making he continues to do the same things and thus earns the rating i gave him.

As far as Hartlett goes he is a good mark but he is not as good as Ziebell in that department. Ziebell has the vice grip happening.

 

[reincarnated]

I think Knights prefers taller running players (midfielders or defenders)... from hearing his interviews post draft last year.

If it comes to a choice between Ziebell (188cm) & Hartlett (182cm), you can bet on us picking Ziebell. But I am not sure whether it will get to that. I think Hurley will be our choice. Hartlett could be going to Port or Carlton.

Personally I would prefer Hartlett from the limited footage and 1 game I've seen of him and Ziebell play.

 

[loopy_cam]

When is the draft camp?

 

[Blind Blink]

It was at the start of October last year I think.

EDIT: Around Friday October 3.

 

[Burzum]

When is the draft camp?

Sept 30th - Oct 3rd

 

[lemon chicken]

Out of all the footage I've seen Hartlett has impressed me the most.

I'd probably lean towards taking him with our first pick if available.

Your a wise man Kelvin.

 

[Tambu]

I really like the look of Robinson. Can't see it happening but I hope he falls to our second pick.