Merged Draft Threads - Part 3

[LukeParkerno1]

Don't think I'd want to rely on Lee. I don't feel taking him in the PSD or the Rookie draft will have any influence on our pick 5. We should take best available at 5. I am hoping we snare pick 12 off Sydney (Lovett + pick 23). Then it will make this process easier. Take Tengrove at 12, then pick a midfielder (hopefully Swift) at pick 5

 

[Sigmund]

Don't think I'd want to rely on Lee. I don't feel taking him in the PSD or the Rookie draft will have any influence on our pick 5. We should take best available at 5. I am hoping we snare pick 12 off Sydney (Lovett + pick 23). Then it will make this process easier. Take Tengrove at 12, then pick a midfielder (hopefully Swift) at pick 5

Assuming he is there?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Assuming he is there?

Lisle would do if he is not there. Not really fussed. If we have two picks in the first round it does open a lot of options. We could afford to go with a riskier pick 5 in Swift, then take a key back with pick 12. Tengrove/Lisle. Even opens the door to Yarran at 12 (don't want him at pick 5 but pick 12 would be a option)

 

[bomba4eva]

Isn't Swift tipped to slide dramatically anyway with him more then likely to be available at pick 12?

Pick 5: Hurley

Pick 12: Swift

At this stage I'd be content with that.

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Pick 5: Hurley

Pick 12: Swift

At this stage I'd be content with that.

I'd be very happy with that outcome.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Depends on his camp results. Todays speed result (very good) shows he is over his major injury. Clubs will have less of a concern of punting on him in the top 10 if he has a very good draft camp. Not sure Swift will be there at 12. Can see a club (Collingwood for instance) drafting him. I'd happilly go

pick 5- Tom Swift

pick 12- Jordan Lisle or Jackson Tengrove

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I'd be very happy with that outcome.

Agreed

 

[bomba4eva]

Sh*t. Hurley may have done sub 3 seconds for 20m! Pick 5: Hurley. This is brilliant news if true. If we could get a gum midfielder with our 2nd pick in the draft I will feel much more confident looking into the future! Wow. Sub 3 seconds helps put to bed any doubts over his pace

Haven't seen any of Swift but reading around he seems to have a lot of fans and he had an incredibly fast 20m sprint. Looks like he is over his injuries though which would elevate him up the draft order. Wonder which club will bite the bullet on him.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Sh*t. Hurley may have done sub 3 seconds for 20m! Pick 5: Hurley. This is brilliant news if true. If we could get a gum midfielder with our 2nd pick in the draft I will feel much more confident looking into the future! Wow. Sub 3 seconds helps put to bed any doubts over his pace

Haven't seen any of Swift but reading around he seems to have a lot of fans and he had an incredibly fast 20m sprint. Looks like he is over his injuries though which would elevate him up the draft order. Wonder which club will bite the bullet on him.

I can see a club pulling the trigger on Swift in the top10 easily. I hope it is us at pick5!

 

[bomba4eva]

Bullsh*t pick 5. I would not want to take such a risk as I feel we cannot afford too. An extra 1st rounder is the insurance I need in taking a gamble. Guess we'll have to let another club pull the trigger on Swift because at pick 5 I wouldn't.

Also Hurley's time is now coming into question. Bummer. Hopefully the initial report was correct.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If we get Sydney's pick 12 (trade Lovett and pick 23). I'd have no dramas in pulling the trigger on Swift at pick5 then. Get Lisle or Tengrove at 12.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

If we get Sydney's pick 12 (trade Lovett and pick 23). I'd have no dramas in pulling the trigger on Swift at pick5 then. Get Lisle or Tengrove at 12.

You've posted the same thing 5 times already.

Stop it please, your are clogging up the draft threads with your crap.

 

[Windas_Magic]

Just posted by Cruiser23 on D&T board.. Interesting on Hurley if true---

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This was the reply i got:

and are entered and updated as each group goes through so you only have one screen's worth of data to look at and at the end of the 20m sprint when all the participants had been through those 13 times were all that was on the screen. Sorry.

Watched Ziebell - from memory his times were above 3.00 secs - a bit slow but Sidebottom's were very slow. Hurley was a bit below 3.00, I think, and I was very impressed by him. Strauss was in the same group as Shuey, Swift and DeBoer but can't remember his times - sorry. Hartlett, Rich and Beams from that group didn't run. There were a lot of players around the 3.00 - 3.10 secs.

I'm sure results will be on the AFL website tonight.

Reading that, the times should be roughly
Ziebell was 3.00 - 3.10
Sidebottom was 3.05+
Hurley 2.95 - 3.00

hhhhmmm..... I doubt that Hurley ran quicker than Ziebell and Sidebottom, and below 3 seconds doesn't sound right. I'm not getting overly excited until the official results are posted.

 

[Myers Fanatic]

Unless Rich falls to our pick we won't be getting a 'selwood' or a 'palmer' anyway. I do feel it should be Hurley but I would not be against getting my man Swift at pick 5.

Gee aren't you just the expert . How do you possibly know that one of Hartlett, Ziebell or Sidebottom cant have very good years next year?
Oh wait, I can't believe you said that anyway, I would have thought your undying love for Tom Swift would mean that you think he'll pull a Selwood next year. I mean, you would be in the best position to comment on Swift on BF, seeing as you have 'seen him play'

 

[mick4]

Sh*t. Hurley may have done sub 3 seconds for 20m! Pick 5: Hurley. This is brilliant news if true. If we could get a gum midfielder with our 2nd pick in the draft I will feel much more confident looking into the future! Wow. Sub 3 seconds helps put to bed any doubts over his pace

Haven't seen any of Swift but reading around he seems to have a lot of fans and he had an incredibly fast 20m sprint. Looks like he is over his injuries though which would elevate him up the draft order. Wonder which club will bite the bullet on him.

Courtney Johns ran a sub 3 second 20 metre in the pre season. That did not help him looking slow when the ball was in his area.

 

[Sigmund]

Courtney Johns ran a sub 3 second 20 metre in the pre season. That did not help him looking slow when the ball was in his area.

Very true Mick-- Although it would appear that Hurley is a vastly superior footballer than Courtney

 

[bomba4eva]

Courtney Johns ran a sub 3 second 20 metre in the pre season. That did not help him looking slow when the ball was in his area.

Yes, but Hurley is rated a tad higher then Johns was

The quesries were that Hurley does not have sufficient speed of the mark and if the reports are true about his time I am much more confident that speed won't be such a big problem.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I believe Hurley has a smaller turning circle than QE2, though.

 

[saladin]

Also Hurley's time is now coming into question. Bummer. Hopefully the initial report was correct.

doesn't matter either way. 2.95 seconds or 3.05 seconds, neither are bad times, especially for a key backman. and in any case, this kid can READ THE PLAY, which is infinitely more valuable. being lightning quick is useless if you're running to the wrong places.

 

[eth-dog]

Hurley ftw.

 

[Windas_Magic]

Draft Camp Results Here: http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=68589

Interesting to note that Trengove has gone from 77kg to 88kg.

 

[KING-JAMES]

Naitanui taller than advertised.

 

[Sigmund]

Can anyone confirm Hurley's 20m sprint time?

 

[Merv]

Draft Camp Results Here: http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=68589

Interesting to note that Trengove has gone from 77kg to 88kg.

Geez there is some impressive results in there, apart from the obvious.

Swift performed extremely well in a number of tests, and probably shot himself up the order as did Hannebery.

Shoenmakers is an exciting talent with his football ability and those results, hopefully we pick him at 23.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

REPEAT SPRINTS – 6 x 30 metres
This test involves players running 6 x 30 metres sprints with a 20-second time cycle. For example, if the player runs 30 metres in 4.30 seconds, he then has 15.30 seconds to recover, before starting his next 30-metre sprint.
1 – Ryan Schoenmakers (Norwood, SA – medium forward) – 24.82 seconds
2 – Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 24.97
Matthew DeBoer (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 24.97
4 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 25.10
James Strauss (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 25.10
6 – Ashley Smith – (Dandenong Stingrays, VIC – medium defender) – 25.14
7 – Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 25.44
Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 25.44
9 – Alistair Smith (Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 25.48
10 – Taylor Hunt (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – medium defender) – 25.49
11 – Rory Sloane (Eastern Ranges, VIC – medium defender) – 25.57
12 – Tom Lynch (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 25.67
13 – Chris Yarran (Swan Districts, WA – medium forward) – 25.74
HEIGHT – tallest players at the draft camp
1 – Ayce Cordy (Geelong Falcons, VIC – ruckman) – 201.7cm
2 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 200.9cm
3 – Rhys Stanley (West Adelaide, SA – ruckman) – 200.4cm
4 – Tyrone Vickery (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – ruckman) – 200.0cm
5 – Jordan Roughead (North Ballarat Rebels, VIC – ruckman) – 199.7cm
6 – Bart McCulloch (Tassie Mariners, TAS – ruckman) – 198.9cm
7 – Tom Hill (Northern Knights, VIC – ruckman) – 198.5cm
8 – Jackson Trengove (Calder Cannons, VIC – tall forward) – 196.5cm
9 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 196.0cm
10 – Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 195.8cm
WEIGHT – heaviest players at the draft camp
1 – Matthew Martin (West Adelaide, SA – tall defender) – 99.35kg
2 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 94.30kg
3 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 93.90kg
4 – Jordan Lisle (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – tall forward) – 92.75kg
5 – Micheal Hurley (Northern Knights, VIC – tall defender) – 91.80kg
6 – Jordan Roughead (North Ballarat Rebels, VIC – ruckman) – 91.75kg
7 – Clancee Pearce (Swan Districts, WA – medium defender) – 89.75kg
8 – Tyrone Vickery (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – ruckman) – 88.80kg
Rhys Stanley (West Adelaide, SA – ruckman) – 88.80kg
10 – Jackson Trengove (Calder Cannons, VIC – tall forward) – 88.50kg
AGILITY
This is a slalom-type course where players change directions. The specially-designed circuit, roughly 40 metres in total, is set out in a zig-zag pattern.
1 – Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 7.77 seconds – draft camp record
2 – Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 8.03
3 – James Strauss (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 8.18
4 – Nick Suban (North Ballarat Rebels, VIC – medium midfielder) – 8.25
5 – Ayce Cordy (Geelong Falcons, VIC – ruckman) – 8.27
6 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 8.31
7 – Neville Jetta (Swan Districts, WA – medium forward) – 8.32
Dan Hannebery (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 8.32
9 – Luke Shuey (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 8.34
10 – Liam Jones (Tassie Mariners, TAS – tall forward) – 8.35
THREE-KM TIME TRIAL
This is a straight out three-km time-trial held in racing conditions around the athletics track.
1 – Dan Hannebery (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 10min 17sec
2 – Steele Sidebottom (Murray Bushrangers, VIC – medium defender) – 10.32
3 – Sam McGarry (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – medium defender) – 10.41
4 – Tyson Slattery (West Adelaide, SA – medium defender) – 10.42
5 – Chris Hall (Eagles, SA – small/medium midfielder) – 10.42
6 – Michael Gugliotta (Nightcliff, NT – tall defender) – 10.43
7 – Rory Sloane (Eastern Ranges, VIC – medium defender) – 10.44
8 – Matthew DeBoer (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 10.53
9 – Jarrad Blight (Swan Districts, WA – medium defender) – 10.57
10 – Matthew Broadbent (Eagles, SA – tall defender) – 10.57
STANDING VERTICAL JUMP
This is a stand and jump test, with the best results from the three or four jumps recorded. To record the jump, a vertex machine is used. A player must slap the highest possible slat on this machine for the best jump to be recorded. Each slat is roughly a centimetre apart.
1 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 78cm
2 – Shaun McKernan (Calder Cannons, VIC – ruckman) – 74cm
3 – Tom Swift (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 72cm
Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 72cm
5 – Jack Watts (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 70cm
Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 70cm
7 – Ryan Schoenmakers (Norwood, SA – medium forward) – 69cm
Nick Heyne (Gippsland Power, VIC – medium forward) – 69cm
Bryce Carroll (Western Jets, VIC – medium forward) – 69cm
10 – Michael Gugliotta (Nightcliff, NT – tall defender) – 67cm
Ashley Smith (Dandenong Stingrays, VIC – medium defender) – 67cm
Alistair Smith (Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 67cm
RUNNING VERTICAL JUMP
Winner – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 1.02 metres
This record equalled Brisbane Lion Jared Brennan
20-METRE SPRINT
A straight out 20-metre sprint test, with the best time recorded from three attempts.
1 – Ashley Smith (Dandenong Stingrays, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 2.80 seconds – Just missed out on the record held by Port Adelaide's Danyle Pearce (2.79 sec)
2 – Jack Watts – (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 2.82
3 – Stephen Hill (West Perth, WA – small/medium midfielder) – 2.83
4 – Nick Naitanui (Swan Districts, WA – ruckman) – 2.86
5 – Tom Swift (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 2.89
6 – Ryan Schoenmakers (Norwood, SA – medium forward) – 2.90
7 – Nick Heyne (Gippsland Power, VIC – medium forward) – 2.91
Sam Blease (Eastern Ranges, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 2.91
9 – Luke Shuey (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 2.92
Taylor Hunt (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – medium defender) – 2.92
Matthew DeBoer (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 2.92
SHUTTLE RUN (AKA BEEP TEST)
The shuttle run is held on the basketball courts. Players must run 20 metres before hearing a beep. It starts off slowly and builds up rapidly, with players increasing their pace significantly. The beeps get quicker each time the players progress. It is a last man standing test. Each player gets one warning – if they miss one beep – they cannot afford to miss another one, as they will be disqualified from the shuttle run. An average draft camp run is level 13.3. A very good level is 14-plus and 15-plus is rare.
1 – Chris Hall (Eagles, SA – small/medium midfielder) – Level 14.6
2 – Rory Sloane (Eastern Ranges, VIC – medium defender) – 14.5
Steele Sidebottom (Murray Bushrangers, VIC – medium defender) – 14.5
4 – Luke Shuey (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – medium midfielder) – 14.4
5 – Jarrad Blight (Swan Districts, WA – medium defender) – 14.3
Tyson Slattery (West Adelaide, SA – medium defender) – 14.3
7 – Dan Hannebery (Oakleigh Chargers, VIC – small/medium midfielder) – 14.2
Ian Richardson (Claremont, WA – medium forward) – 14.2
9 – Tom Lynch (Sandringham Dragons, VIC – tall forward) – 14.1
Tom Swift (Claremont, WA – medium midfielder) – 14.1

To save anyone actually having to go to that abomination of a site.

EDIT: Tyson Slattery any relation to Henry?