Merged draft threads

[The Donners]

Re: Daniel Rich is our man

yeh his kicking has been down abit this year. but that comes with confidence 2

he is stil only 24 or somthing like that. wat u want to get rid of him and start all over with another 17 year old

He's just turned 22 and he's never been able to kick, from the moment he got to the club he could not dispose of a football at an AFL standard, Sheedy was hoping that he could teach him to do this but alas he failed.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

And if we don't are we going to see a Daniel Rcih thread like we saw with Rhys Palmer
Don't under sell Suban. He is a seriously good player with very strong leadership skills who made the AA side last year playing in a midfield that did not have as many stand out performers as the WA side that Rich played in.
Personally i dont think there is a lot between them other than Rich got most of the hype for playing very well in a very strong WA side.

I am not underselling Suban. Just how I feel he'll go. A damn good player in his own right. Rich suits our team's needs' more though, so if available we'll pick him. Then if he isn't it will be a toss up between Suban and Swift. Personally I'd go Swift but I would not complain one bit with Suban. As long as we draft a genuine midfielder with our first two picks I'll be happy

 

[ant555]

I am not underselling Suban. Just how I feel he'll go. A damn good player in his own right. Rich suits our team's needs' more though, so if available we'll pick him. Then if he isn't it will be a toss up between Suban and Swift. Personally I'd go Swift but I would not complain one bit with Suban. As long as we draft a genuine midfielder with our first two picks I'll be happy

How does Rich suit our needs more given that Suban is an extremly good clearance winning mid as well. ?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I feel Rich has superior skills, especially by foot. Reminds me a lot of Luke Hodge. I haven't seen Suban go forward enough and kick goals- Rich does. That said both will be great gets by the club that they are drafted. As I said, my first priority is Rich. After that Swift or Surban, no preference really.

 

[High Ryder]

We should draft the best available no matter what possie they are. If Natanui is rated higher than Rich we should take him and from what i've seen he would be. Think about this, would you prefer to have Deledio or Franklin on our list?

 

[Giggidy Giggidy]

We should draft the best available no matter what possie they are. If Natanui is rated higher than Rich we should take him and from what i've seen he would be. Think about this, would you prefer to have Deledio or Franklin on our list?

Deledio was rated higher at the time, so thats a bit contradictory.

 

[ant555]

Too early to single out players now anyway , only leads to disapoinment. If Freo finish below us then we won't get a shot at Rich anyway.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

We should draft the best available no matter what possie they are. If Natanui is rated higher than Rich we should take him and from what i've seen he would be. Think about this, would you prefer to have Deledio or Franklin on our list?

Franklin, becuase then we would have got Selwood in 2006! ____!

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Too early to single out players now anyway , only leads to disapoinment. If Freo finish below us then we won't get a shot at Rich anyway.

True then we should go Surban or Swift

 

[hulld]

freo will win more games than us

 

[LukeParkerno1]

freo will win more games than us

Good. Helps us get Rich!

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Disasterous Drafting

Im so passionate about the dons but im just not seeing any positive results over the last 5 years. we look good in the first 3 rounds of every season and then we die off very quickly with a few injuries or some problem that we cant handle but other teams can.

The problem is that we are still slow, when we are fast we get caught out on the turn over, we play into other teams hands and our drafting people, needs to be changed

TOP DRAFT PICKS THAT HAVE GIVING US NOTHING:
C.Dempsey
Gumbleton
Jetta
Winderlich
K.Bradley
Monfries
Laycock
Stanton - great player but not going good this season because of taggers, giving us nothing this season
P.Ryder - should be dominating
Ramanauskas

all high draft picks that have giving this club bugger all except for stanton as of yet.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Sheedy as "talent watch"..what the same bloke that traded for hacks like Cupido...no thanks. Gumbleton, Ryder have shown glipses of what they will do, same with Dempsey. Monfries is starting to play his natural position. Be patient. I agree on Jetta though

 

[daveyboy3]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Im so pationate about the dons but im just not seeing any positive results. we look good in the first 3 round of every season and then we die off very quickly with a few injuries or whatever the problem is.

The problem is that we are still slow, when we are fast we get caught out on the turn over, we play in to other teams hands and our drafting people need to be changed

TOP DRAFT PICKS THAT HAVE GIVING US NOTHING:
C.Dempsey
Gumbleton
Jetta
Winderlich
K.Bradley
Monfries
Laycock
Stanton - great player but not going good this season because of taggers
P.Ryder - should be dominating
Ramanauskas

al high draft picks that have giving this club bugger all except for stanton as of yet. Where are we going wrong do we need Sheedy to be our talent watch.

Without even worrying about any of the other flaws in this post I'll just point out you contradicting yourself here. How can Stanton be a great player if he has given us nothing?

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Stanton - given us nothing this year
Sheedy - if he concentrated on looking for youth rather than coaching then he could find us some gems, he has found us great later picks but its been his inability to pick starts with our top 20's

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Sheedy - if he concentrated on looking for youth rather than coaching then he could find us some gems, he has found us great later picks but its been his inability to pick starts with our top 20's

No thanks. Sheedy's one flaw has been his incompetence whist trading/drafting. From 1999-2004 our drafting and trading was pathetic all under Sheedy! What makes you think it will be any different!

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

No thanks. Sheedy's one flaw has been his incompetence whist trading/drafting. From 1999-2004 our drafting and trading was pathetic all under Sheedy! What makes you think it will be any different!

i anwsered this above he cant be blamed as the coaches dont play a big role when drafting kids. He has been considered to pick some good late picks such as A.Davey and B.Houli and J.hird. Many more but we may need to change our whole system and look alot harder and get some more knowledge on the WA kids who dominate.

Essendon to get -
number 2 pick - Daniel Rich
number 17 pick - S.Walters
Number 33 pick - T.Swift
number 49 pick - N.Jetta
number 65 pick - C.Garlett

would love this and also B.Cousins can come across to help stanton to and allow cousins to take number 1 tag

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Swift is a top 10 pick. No way would he be a 3rd rounder. Rather get someone else other than Walters, don't rate him one bit.

Sheedy played a big role in who he drafted and frankly in recent times he was awful, it is just reality. He is not someone I want to be anywhere near our trading/drafting again. Great coach, very poor drafter. Just becuase he fluked a couple of decent picks doesn't change the fact he was poor in that regard...we won't mention his obsession of duds in trade week either FFS!

 

[monty1104]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Garlett has already been drafted.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Swift is a top 10 pick. No way would he be a 3rd rounder. Rather get someone else other than Walters, don't rate him one bit.

Sheedy played a big role in who he drafted and frankly in recent times he was awful, it is just reality. He is not someone I want to be anywhere near our trading/drafting again. Great coach, very poor drafter. Just becuase he fluked a couple of decent picks doesn't change the fact he was poor in that regard...we won't mention his obsession of duds in trade week either FFS!

im being optimistic

I see that we wont win more than 5 games and we may finish last. Last or second last we will pick rich unless we trade Laycock out. Swift could fall because he has played like 1 and 1/2 games in his last 2 years.

2. D.Rich
17. T.Swift
19. M.Walters
33. N.Jetta
49. C.Garlett

looking at that though we may struggle with KP Players as we have no CHB and we struggle in the ruck, Lloyd and Lucas are struggling with there bodies.

Should we take Hurley if we finish second. CHB just what we need.

We have all these shit draft players who we can trade now for fairly high picks. eg: all those players who have giving us nothing besides Stanton, Ryder and Gumbleton and maybe Winderlich.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Garlett has already been drafted.

thers about 5 of them who can play AFL. Clinton Garlett is a gun from swan distircts and good mates with sunny walters

 

[monty1104]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Ah ok, i saw C.Garlett and assumed you meant Cruize.

 

[bombersrbest05]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

jetta is a little harsh as he has only played a handful of games, to me he looks like he turn into a pretty handy forward or center

 

[Tambu]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

TOP DRAFT PICKS THAT HAVE GIVING US NOTHING:
C.Dempsey
Gumbleton
Jetta
Winderlich
K.Bradley
Monfries
Laycock
Stanton - great player but not going good this season because of taggers, giving us nothing this season
P.Ryder - should be dominating
Ramanauskas

The top 3 in that list have a lot of talent but have had their seasons interrupted by injuries. Now that's just bad luck. You've gotta give these kids a bit more time before writing them off. They've only played 23 games between them.

Ryder has been excellent the past couple of seasons. Has had a flat couple of weeks but I think people sometimes forget that he's only just turned 20 and has already raised the bar so high. Until he matures further, he'll show some inconsistency just like any other kid.

Stanton is probably still getting used to the attention he's getting from other clubs. Obviously they rate him.

Winderlich must be carrying an injury?

Rama - I can't believe he's even listed in your post.

Monfries is starting to show more consistency but his skills are letting him down.

Laycock has been the biggest let down IMO.


The past 3 years of drafting have been very good for us. You've just got to have patience.

 

[The_Young_Gun]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

C.Dempsey - Is a gun player, and has had injury woes, not a disastrous draftee!
Gumbleton - He's played no games this season, how can you say he's a disastrous draftee!
Jetta - He's got speed and grunt, not been great of late, but I would draft him with my no.1 pick any day!
Winderlich - When he has the ball he's good! He's still what he's worth. (Round 2 pick)
K.Bradley - DUD.... Move on!
Monfries - He's a smart player and has just turned 21 and is or is going to be fantastic player!
Laycock - He's been shit-house of late, but showed some good sign's during last season.
Stanton - (Sigh) He's one of our best players FFS!!!!
P.Ryder - He's a F"""ing Gun, are you mental or something cause if you think he's a waste of a draft pick then you have problems!
Ramanauskas - I'm pretty sure he had cancer sometime in the past few years, and what!! he made a comeback!! (It just speaks for itself, he's lucky to be alive than be playing footy)


In Summary I have disagree'd with everything you have said....... Except for Keplar Bradely!!