Merged draft threads

[Ben the Gooner]

Re: Disasterous Drafting

Regardless of whether a player is injured plagued or not, if they've done FA they've done FA, Gumby, Dempsey have done FA. 2 first round picks from 2 and 3 years ago have done nothing... not their fault but they've still given us nothing. It's our high performance "guru" that should be sacked! No doubt about it!

However, the OP said that they were wasted picks. Rama a wasted pick? Gumbleton and Jetta wasted picks at this stage in their careers?

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Neville Jetta has been given pretty big wraps on the WC Board, the U/18 Championships thread, they've said that he is super quick and has bullet like passes, sounds exactly like our Jetta, they must be related...Maybe we can get him with our 3rdish pick in the draft, depending on the way our strategy of picks plans out the way we want it...

 

[Burzum]

Say goodbye to the chance of getting Rich, Freo are ____ing awful.

 

[Windas_Magic]

Say goodbye to the chance of getting Rich, Freo are ____ing awful.

wow, you really want him don't ya

 

[Burzum]

wow, you really want him don't ya

Hell yeah, but I don't want to tank for it.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

We haven't played them yet..so they are a good chance of beating us twice!

 

[Windas_Magic]

Hell yeah, but I don't want to tank for it.

It looks like it would be the only way on snatching him, Freo are just pure crap at the moment. Anyway, it's not we would tank anyway, unless you consider playing a team full of kids as tanking. I'd rather finish off the season with 6-8 wins myself but it looks like we'll be lucky to win 5.

I heard Swift did another knee injury, i wouldn't use a top 10, maybe even 15 pick on him anymore. He looks injury prone and coming to Essendon the chances are his injuries would continue. Is a possible chance to slide now i would've thought

 

[Burzum]

If we can't get Rich, I'd want Hartlett or Suban.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

The more I see Surban the more I like him. I love Swift but I can't see us taking a risk at pick 3. Mind you Carlton did it with Chris "dodgy shoulders" Judd. How does Hartlett play RIG?

 

[GoldenboyHird_5]

It looks like it would be the only way on snatching him, Freo are just pure crap at the moment. Anyway, it's not we would tank anyway, unless you consider playing a team full of kids as tanking. I'd rather finish off the season with 6-8 wins myself but it looks like we'll be lucky to win 5.

I heard Swift did another knee injury, i wouldn't use a top 10, maybe even 15 pick on him anymore. He looks injury prone and coming to Essendon the chances are his injuries would continue. Is a possible chance to slide now i would've thought

Yeh, heard that one

Have you heard of Selwood or even Judd?

Weren't they injury prone as juniors? Clubs were stupid enough to let them go through and ultimately they have become very good players.

Heard Swift got 40-odd possessions in one of his TAC Cup games, might be what we need.

And... don't think that Rich is going to explode and do a Judd in his first year. Is a different player who is more solidish type rather than the flashy Cotchin.

Still would be good though

I don't think we can lose in this draft with the first pick

If Natanui goes we've got Rich, then Hurley, Swift, Hartlett, McKernan or Trengrove.

 

[Burzum]

The more I see Surban the more I like him. I love Swift but I can't see us taking a risk at pick 3. Mind you Carlton did it with Chris "dodgy shoulders" Judd. How does Hartlett play RIG?

I don't know much about him but from what I heard he runs hard, gets the contested ball and uses it well.

Here's a little profile about him:

Hamish Hartlett Midfielder 181cm
West Adelaide 14/08/1990 67kg
Hartlett is the younger brother of Adam who has been on Carlton's list for three years. But Hamish is a completely different player. While his brother is a key position type, Hamish is a midfielder who was prominent for South Australia in the 2006 NAB AFL Under-16 Championships. In that carnival he averaged 31 disposals and ranked No.1 for hardball gets and uncontested marks. He averaged 17 disposals in last years NAB AFL Under 18 Championships and made his senior SANFL debut late last season.

 

[GoDons]

Yeh, heard that one

Have you heard of Selwood or even Judd?

Weren't they injury prone as juniors? Clubs were stupid enough to let them go through and ultimately they have become very good players.

Heard Swift got 40-odd possessions in one of his TAC Cup games, might be what we need.

Don't talk about guys you clearly know nothing about.

Swift's a Western Australian playing WAFL Colts for Claremont. He's been playing down back and only been getting average numbers.

In the U/16 Carnival he racked up the touches.

And Judd and Selwood had a lot more runs on the board than Swift, Tom hasn't done anything of note since 2006 when he was playing against 16 year olds.

 

[Silvagnis]

Yeh, heard that one

Have you heard of Selwood or even Judd?

Weren't they injury prone as juniors? Clubs were stupid enough to let them go through and ultimately they have become very good players.

Heard Swift got 40-odd possessions in one of his TAC Cup games, might be what we need.

I hate the argument that clubs were stupid to let Selwood and Judd go and they overlooked them.

That infers the other clubs didn't pick a future gun footballer, but a dud like Carlton selecting Livingston, Sporn and Wiggins ahead of Motlop, Burgoyne and Kerr in the 2000 draft.

When did Swift play in the TAC cup?

Kennedy and Dowler had serious injuries prior to being picked, but didn't fall out of the top ten like Muston.

If we can't get Rich, I'd want Hartlett or Suban.

Hartlett is all our's.

I hope.

The more I see Surban the more I like him. I love Swift but I can't see us taking a risk at pick 3. Mind you Carlton did it with Chris "dodgy shoulders" Judd. How does Hartlett play RIG?

Don't you mean the WCE took a risk on Judd?

Carlton picked Chris "dodgy groins" Judd.

 

[danzan22]

I don't know much about him but from what I heard he runs hard, gets the contested ball and uses it well.

Here's a little profile about him:

A guy i have been keeping an eye on and am keen to get him, good goalkicking midfielder.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

A guy i have been keeping an eye on and am keen to get him, good goalkicking midfielder.

Is he inside or outside. If he is outside, I frankly don't want him.

 

[GoDons]

Is he inside or outside. If he is outside, I frankly don't want him.

In the Champs, he's been more outside thus far.

He's struggled with tags and been blocked out of contests.

From what I've heard, in the SANFL he's struggled with size being a fair lighter than his opponents, but isn't afraid to get in there.

Personally, I think he's an Angus Monfries type with a real touch of x-factor. But I've only ever seen him live in the Champs.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

In the Champs, he's been more outside thus far.

He's struggled with tags and been blocked out of contests.

From what I've heard, in the SANFL he's struggled with size being a fair lighter than his opponents, but isn't afraid to get in there.

Personally, I think he's an Angus Monfries type with a real touch of x-factor. But I've only ever seen him live in the Champs.

Don't want him then. We have too many outside mids already and you want to waste a FIRST ROUND pick on another outside midfielder. No thanks. My preferences at this stage:

1. RICH (please let it happen)
2. Suban
3. DeBoer
4. Swift
4. Hurley

They should be the ones we go after for our 1st rounder. I have only seen Hartlett once, but if he is "outside" then I don't want him. No more Monfries-types either.

 

[GoDons]

Don't want him then. We have too many outside mids already and you want to waste a FIRST ROUND pick on another outside midfielder. No thanks. My preferences at this stage:

1. RICH (please let it happen)
2. Suban
3. DeBoer
4. Swift
4. Hurley

They should be the ones we go after for our 1st rounder. I have only seen Hartlett once, but if he is "outside" then I don't want him. No more Monfries-types either.

He's not exclusively an outside midfielder, he's just been slightly slower in physical development than others. He can mix it inside, just doesn't really have the body to support him yet.

I compared him to Monfries because at the moment he's the guy that has a crack but just doesn't have the size to dominate packs. That's at senior level, Hartlett's 17 years old. I'm not saying that Hartlett will have the same problems as Monfries at the same age.

Hartlett's got more x-factor than Monfries as well, with more pace, better skills and the ability to do something special.

He's definitely an option, don't rule him out on the basis of how you interpreted my post.

I haven't watched every game he's played, I've barely watched any, I rely on word of mouth and a few opinions that I've gathered in the few games I've watched him in.

 

[Daytripper]

Don't want him then. We have too many outside mids already and you want to waste a FIRST ROUND pick on another outside midfielder. No thanks. My preferences at this stage:

1. RICH (please let it happen)
2. Suban
3. DeBoer
4. Swift
4. Hurley

They should be the ones we go after for our 1st rounder. I have only seen Hartlett once, but if he is "outside" then I don't want him. No more Monfries-types either.

Who are our outside mids besides Stanton (and even he plays more inside than outside these days) ?
Lovett, Dyson and .........

We have Watson, Lonergan, Hocking, Hislop, McVeigh, Monfries all playing as your in and unders - Frankly we've got a plethora of them at the moment and we don't really need many more in my opinion.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

He's not exclusively an outside midfielder, he's just been slightly slower in physical development than others. He can mix it inside, just doesn't really have the body to support him yet.

I compared him to Monfries because at the moment he's the guy that has a crack but just doesn't have the size to dominate packs. That's at senior level, Hartlett's 17 years old. I'm not saying that Hartlett will have the same problems as Monfries at the same age.

Hartlett's got more x-factor than Monfries as well, with more pace, better skills and the ability to do something special.

He's definitely an option, don't rule him out on the basis of how you interpreted my post.

I haven't watched every game he's played, I've barely watched any, I rely on word of mouth and a few opinions that I've gathered in the few games I've watched him in.

I would rather the other options if our likely pick is in the top 3. Hartlett is pretty good, don't get me wrong. My problem is I am not sure he is worth a top 3 pick. We really need a A class genuine inside midfielder and I am not sure he is the one. I would go De Boer over Hartlett as well as I see him with more X Factor, however that may be from watching him more than Hartlett. If we have pick 4-6 rather than 1-3 then Hartlett becomes a option. However if that is the case, I'd rather get Hurley.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Who are our outside mids besides Stanton (and even he plays more inside than outside these days) ?
Lovett, Dyson and .........

We have Watson, Lonergan, Hocking, Hislop, McVeigh, Monfries all playing as your in and unders - Frankly we've got a plethora of them at the moment and we don't really need many more in my opinion.

Stanton, Winderlich, Lovett, Myers, Dyson. We need a A Class inside midfielder who breaks packs.

 

[foj1]

I would rather the other options if our likely pick is in the top 3. Hartlett is pretty good, don't get me wrong. My problem is I am not sure he is worth a top 3 pick. We really need a A class genuine inside midfielder and I am not sure he is the one. I would go De Boer over Hartlett as well as I see him with more X Factor, however that may be from watching him more than Hartlett. If we have pick 4-6 rather than 1-3 then Hartlett becomes a option. However if that is the case, I'd rather get Hurley.

You just mentioned that you have only seen Hartlett once yet youre saying he is pretty good? Mate recruiters watch players 30- 40 times and still are unsure of their judgements. I dont think you should post about things you know so little about. Hartlett is a good prospect who reminds a little of Brad ebert. He hasnt started nationals fantastically well but just into them. 1-3 draft pick means you pick best available- in fact first round means you pick best available every time. You only specify a position when you cant split 2 players. Yarran is a bit ahead of Hartlett in my opinion. There is a bit to like about Heyne- bit of Pendebury about him.

 

[Schmick]

We need an A class midfielder who will be able to deal with a tag, and still have a great impact on games, whether it be an inside or outside mid it doesn't matter. Great skills and footy brain is a must otherwise they can forget about being selected with our 1st pick in this years draft. Other than Rich, which players fall into this category?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Suban, Swift, De Boer

 

[Windas_Magic]

We need an A class midfielder who will be able to deal with a tag, and still have a great impact on games, whether it be an inside or outside mid it doesn't matter. Great skills and footy brain is a must otherwise they can forget about being selected with our 1st pick in this years draft. Other than Rich, which players fall into this category?

How exactly are you going to determine that quality in a bunch of 18 year olds who haven't played at AFL level? You can't.