Merged draft threads

[ant555]

Oh and Myers was drafted as a "running back flanker"

No he was not.
He was drafted becasue he is able to play midfield and win clearances as well as playing the running half back role.
The whole running half back crap came from a few in the media who only saw him in one champ game where he played half back.

 

[lemon chicken]

yeah, well thats fair enough. asked before, saw a young kid by the name of silvagni (alex) running around in the scorpions, same postion as the great stephen, a full back, creative, tall (192cm) not sure on his weight, but seems a likely type, could pick him up in the pre season draft, he was really good against jonhs.

Alex is Stephen's cousin and has had pretty good year still only 20-21. The saints would of kept a close eye on him all year and their supporters seem very keen on him.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think Pears can hold down a key back to be honest. I think our midfield needs addressing way before our backs are being addressed. Get a midfielder with our first pick- Suban will do 9assuming Rich is gone)

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I don't think Pears is the issue when it comes to whether we pick up a key defender or not. I think it is what Knighter's long term plan for Paddy is - will he go into the ruck, play an Adam Goodes role, or stay back?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

He'll probably stay back. He needs a good 5 kgs to play either position though, he is way too light. Pears looks heavier than Ryder and he is 18!

 

[S.C[BANKS]]

No he was not.
He was drafted becasue he is able to play midfield and win clearances as well as playing the running half back role.
The whole running half back crap came from a few in the media who only saw him in one champ game where he played half back.

That sounds very similar to Suban....

 

[Giggidy Giggidy]

'Basketballer' moves into top draft contention

FROM early this season, it has been assumed that Melbourne would have the first pick in the national draft and that the Demons would use it to select the spectacular Fijian-born ruck prospect Nicholas Naitanui.

But as of July 1, both assumptions are being challenged. The Demons are no longer certainties to finish bottom, and even if they did, a Victorian forward with a basketball pedigree might supplant Naitanui as the first pick.

Jack Watts, a 194-centimetre key forward from Brighton Grammar who has been outstanding in the under-18 carnival, has moved up the charts to the extent that he has become a serious contender to be the first pick in the draft, especially if the Demons "win" the wooden spoon.

In recruiting circles, Naitanui and another West Australian, Daniel Rich, had been touted as the prospective top two in the draft before the emergence of Watts, who kicked four goals for the Victorian Metro team against Victorian Country and had a five-goal, 17-possession haul against South Australia last Sunday.

Ladder position could determine the order of the draft, given that West Coast and Fremantle — which, like Melbourne, have two wins each — are considered more likely to select the WA pair of Naitanui and Rich ahead of Watts. Rich, a talented midfielder, is playing senior football with Subiaco.

There is a further subplot involving Watts, who has given up an Australian Institute of Sport's basketball scholarship to pursue a football career; namely that Watts, a year 11 student, will remain in Victoria next year regardless of who drafts him. He is committed to finishing VCE at Brighton Grammar, and would stay in Melbourne in the event that the Eagles or Dockers selected him.

Watts has received far less publicity and hype than Naitanui, whose exotic heritage, striking appearance and freakish athleticism have created a misleading impression that he is the certain No. 1 pick.

Indeed, some recruiters point out that Naitanui, while a gifted athlete and excellent prospect with massive upside, is very much an unfinished work and does not win much of the ball for a player of his (draft) standing; he often struggles to reach double figures in possessions and averages and one mark a game, but his enormous leap serves him well in ruck contests for Swan Districts.

Another factor in the No. 1 pick equation might be whether the Demons can recruit Fremantle ruckman Robert Warnock via the pre-season draft, easing the pressure on the club to secure a ruckman.

Watts' main asset is his marking — particularly in a contest — but he also has super speed for a player of his height.
The Australian Institute of Sport basketball program timed him at 2.79 seconds for a 20-metre sprint, an exceptional time for a player of any size. In basketball, he played as a point guard and was regarded as the best prospect of his age in Victoria and possibly Australia.

In his four-goal game against Victorian Country, Watts' matchwinning final goal in the dying seconds of the match followed a contested mark against multiple opponents. He is said to kick well with both feet and possess good agility at ground level.

The No. 1 draft pick scenario could become clearer when Victorian Metro plays WA at Telstra Dome in the final game of the under-18 carnival, a match in which, barring mishap, Watts, Naitanui and Rich will all play.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/ne...raft-contention/2008/06/30/1214677943867.html

The above gives a strong indication that if Melbourne do not select Watts that he would probably be available to the next Victorian team in the draft order..... which at the moment is Essendon (and I think is still reasonably likely to remain Essendon). Could cause a stir trade week with other Victorian teams trying to secure one of the top 6 picks to attain him.

 

[S.C[BANKS]]

Interesting news, Looks like the chance that demons picking Watts just got higher...

Anyway, heres my preference at the moment.

First round - Hurley
Second round - Swift

Will Swift slip this far?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Swift MAY slip that far as there are plenty of good tall options. That said I am sure Swift would appeal to Hawthorn or another side contending a flag. He'll be a late first rounder/early 2nd.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

'Basketballer' moves into top draft contention



http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/ne...raft-contention/2008/06/30/1214677943867.html

The above gives a strong indication that if Melbourne do not select Watts that he would probably be available to the next Victorian team in the draft order..... which at the moment is Essendon (and I think is still reasonably likely to remain Essendon). Could cause a stir trade week with other Victorian teams trying to secure one of the top 6 picks to attain him.

I think we'll take Hurley or Yarran before Watts. That is nothing against Watts as he is damn good BUT we have Gumbleton at CHF (I know he can play CHB but I'd rather Gumby at CHF)

 

[michael7]

Anyway, heres my preference at the moment.

First round - Hurley
Second round - Swift

Will Swift slip this far?[/quote]

Yep, been thinking the same, get Hurley 1st and then use our 2nd pick on a midfielder, I don't know alot about the kids and I've never seen any of them play but going by what's on the D + T board, surely one of Broadbent, Walters, Zaharakis, Swift or DeBoer will still be available by the time we have our 2nd round pick and from the sounds of it all of them should turn out to be handy midfielders at least.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

The more I think of it (as much as I don't agree with it), Essendon probably will take Yarran if available providing Rich does not fall and Melbourne possibly taking Watts at no1 could open this up a bit. West Coast have always had the policy of best available and Naituai would suit them at no2. Then it will come down to where Freo, Essedon, and Port finish to where Rich, Yarran and Hurley possibly Suban go.

DeBoer will go first round I think as he is having a great carnival, Swift has Joel Selwood written all over it, as when fit has been an amazing midfielder.

 

[S.C[BANKS]]

The more I think of it (as much as I don't agree with it), Essendon probably will take Yarran if available providing Rich does not fall and Melbourne possibly taking Watts at no1 could open this up a bit. West Coast have always had the policy of best available and Naituai would suit them at no2. Then it will come down to where Freo, Essedon, and Port finish to where Rich, Yarran and Hurley possibly Suban go.

DeBoer will go first round I think as he is having a great carnival, Swift has Joel Selwood written all over it, as when fit has been an amazing midfielder.

I heard from one of the DT board regulars that Swift was predicted to go top 3 before injuries.

So that Joel Selwood comparison might be true.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I heard from one of the DT board regulars that Swift was predicted to go top 3 before injuries.

So that Joel Selwood comparison might be true.

Well he was a better midfielder than Daniel Rich in the u16's. Before he did his knee he was a monty to go no1. Then he did his other one (not as bad) this year. Selwood had injuries, people were worried whether he could cope with the stress on his knees at AFL level. I do see some similarities there. Swift is a more extreme case and it would be a risk to take him top 5. However, he would not be a bad selection as he is potentially a genuine A Class midfielder which we lack.

 

[S.C[BANKS]]

Well he was a better midfielder than Daniel Rich in the u16's. Before he did his knee he was a monty to go no1. Then he did his other one (not as bad) this year. Selwood had injuries, people were worried whether he could cope with the stress on his knees at AFL level. I do see some similarities there. Swift is a more extreme case and it would be a risk to take him top 5. However, he would not be a bad selection as he is potentially a genuine A Class midfielder which we lack.

Personally who would you take if both are available?

Nick Suban first? or Tom Swift first?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Personally who would you take if both are available?

Nick Suban first? or Tom Swift first?

Probably Suban, but I do feel that Swift is the risky but could be the the best midfielder out of the draft at the same time. Suban is a safer bet. But if you asked me who I'd take say at pick 4, I'd take Suban. If we get pick 6-8, then I'd take Swift as Suban will be likely gone by then.

 

[Burzum]

I'm thinking we'll take Hurley if he's there considering Dodoro said last year that they believe we have enough midfield talent.

 

[ant555]

Probably Suban, but I do feel that Swift is the risky but could be the the best midfielder out of the draft at the same time. Suban is a safer bet. But if you asked me who I'd take say at pick 4, I'd take Suban. If we get pick 6-8, then I'd take Swift as Suban will be likely gone by then.

You are going well. Four weeks ago you would not have known enough about Suban until i mentioned him.

 

[bomba4eva]

You are going well. Four weeks ago you would not have known enough about Suban until i mentioned him.

It has been good fun laughing about the whole champs fiasco but it is becoming a bit stale and I feel sorry for bomberno1. She has been derided enough.

Swift would be an enormous risk with our top 6 pick and it would be incredibly frustrating if he didn't pull through for us. I wouldn't waste a high pick on a player like him simply because it is too risky. Ive already written off Natanui and Rich as possible pick ups because they will almost certainly be gone by our pick. The next crop down like Suban and Yarren is where I will be payng particular attention too. Nabbing an A Grade midfielder would be superb but a KPB is imperative also. We have recruited many midfielders in recent times so I am swayed towards the KPB.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Who do you guys (and gals) want me to watch next Wednesday?

Naitanui
Rich
Suban
Hartlett
Watts
Yarran
De Boar
Swift
Steven Hill
Mitch Robinson (Tassie)
Steele Sidebottom (Vic Country)
Jack Ziebell (Vic Country)
Tom Rockliff (Vic Country)
Nic Heyne (Vic Country)
Jamie Sheahan (Vic Country)
Matthew Broadbent (SA)
Sam Blease (Vic Metro)
Steven Gaertner (Vic Metro)
Micheal Hurley (Vic Metro)
Charlie McAdam (SA)
Alex Carey (SA)
Dylan McNeil (NSW)
Jacob Hislop (TAS)
Dan Hannebery (Vic Metro)
Tom Scully (Vic Metro)
David Zaharkis (Vic Metro)
Sam McGarry (Vic Metro)
Liam Shiels (Vic Metro)
Aaron Perves (Vic Metro)
Luke Shuey (Vic Metro)
Dale Walker (Vic Metro)
Zach Clarke (Vic Metro)
Hill (WA)
Jetta (WA)
Walters (WA)
Garlett (WA)
Kieran King (WA)
Kane Lucas (WA)
Mitch Marsh (WA)

Last update: GoDons (#900)

 

[michael7]

Personally I would be happy if we took swift and he did even half of what Joel Selwood did in his 1st year but if we took swift I would hope it would be on the basis that he is not likely to suffer from these injuries all of his career, if it looked as though he was going to be injury prone throughout his career then I would be praying for Broadbent or Walters or even DeBoer or Zaharakis to slip to our second rounder.

 

[ant555]

It has been good fun laughing about the whole champs fiasco but it is becoming a bit stale and I feel sorry for bomberno1. She has been derided enough.

Maybe but when someone keeps coming back and pretending to be an expert they deserve to get shot down.
It is not that hard to simply tell the truth and say that some of the info you have was gained from reading other opinions or reviews.
I know i use what others have been saying about players to compare with my notes and to also jot down names that i may have missed in games i have watched so i can make sure to look out for them in the future.
What others have to say is a very good source of information when trying to make a well rounded judgment on under 18 players.

 

[ant555]

Personally I would be happy if we took swift and he did even half of what Joel Selwood did in his 1st year but if we took swift I would hope it would be on the basis that he is not likely to suffer from these injuries all of his career, if it looked as though he was going to be injury prone throughout his career then I would be praying for Broadbent or Walters or even DeBoer or Zaharakis to slip to our second rounder.

Zaharakis may well be around early in the second round. I was a little surprised that no one took him late last year but in saying that i dont think he is a lock for first round.

 

[ant555]

Who do you guys (and gals) want me to watch next Wednesday?

Naitanui
Rich
Suban
Hartlett
Watts
Yarran
De Boar
Swift

Steven Hill is probaly the one player i want to have a closer look at. I have not seen much of him at all but he has been ticking along quite well for WA during the champs so far.
A few others that should be watched are
Mitch Robinson (Tassie)
Steele Sidebottom (Vic Country)
Jack Ziebell (Vic Country)
Tom Rockliff (Vic Country)
Nic Heyne (Vic Country)
Jamie Sheahan (Vic Country)
Matthew Broadbent (SA)
Sam Blease (Vic Metro)
Steven Gaertner (Vic Metro)
Micheal Hurley (Vic Metro)

 

[GoDons]

Who do you guys (and gals) want me to watch next Wednesday?

For SA vs. NSW, from SA I'd look for Matthew Broadbent who could well be in the range for our second round pick and Charlie McAdam for some entertainment. Have a glance at Alex Carey for next year as well. From NSW, have a look at Dylan McNeil, apparently he was very impressive in the under 16s and is eligible. Probably won't be an early selection, but could be a good later selection.

For Tasmania vs. Vic Country, I'd watch for Jacob Hislop purely because of his relation to Tom and see if he's got anything, Jack Ziebell, Steele Sidebottom and Nick Heyne all shape as top notch players that could sneak into contention for our first round pick.

Finally, for Vic Metro vs. WA, for Metro I'd be watching Michael Hurley as a possible contender for our first round pick, Dan Hannebery, Tom Scully and David Zaharakis as possible second rounders, as well as Sam McGarry, Liam Shiels, Luke Stanton, Aaron Purves, Luke Shuey and Dale Walker as possible later round picks. Also look at big man Zach Clarke if he's playing. From WA, have a look at the skills of guys like Hill, Jetta, Walters and Garlett. Also, have a look at Kieran King who's an outstanding athlete turn footballer who we might look at with a second rounder. Look at Kane Lucas as well who's ineligible this year but will be a top notch prospect going into next year. Mitch Marsh, son of Geoff, might be worth a look as well.

There's probably another 50 guys that would good to look at, but there are a few names.