He was everywhere in the first half and from memory had 20+ possessions.
He is a year older than most of those guys but i think he has a lot of talent and could make an extremely versatile AFL player.
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He was everywhere in the first half and from memory had 20+ possessions.
He is a year older than most of those guys but i think he has a lot of talent and could make an extremely versatile AFL player.
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Game 3: WA v VIC METRO
A very high quality game. The Vics had more contributors, but there was a lot of class shown from some of the Sandgropers as well as the Vics. An excellent game, one of the best I've seen in a few weeks at least.
Player notes:
WA:
44 Nicholas Naitanui: I'll preface this by saying that I was deliberately being critical of NickNat, so I wouldn't get caught up in the hype of the good things he could do - and believe me, he can do them. He has a slick handball, and good vision to go with it. However, his kicking action is poor. It's not just that his kicking is poor in regards to hitting targets, the entire action is extremely awkward, and he seems to drop the ball from higher up. He looks a bit lost under pressure, and looks for a handball. I think that he lacks a bit of confidence in his kicking. Has good upper body strength. His leap is everything that it's talked up to be, and he has a good mark. Although it's a little unfair to compare him to someone 3 years more developed than him, I think he's the better athlete out of him and Ryder, but Paddy is a better footballer. That could change, but I think it's a fair description.
10 Daniel Rich: The best player today. He was exceptional. He has a brilliant, and huge, kick. Seems to have a lot of time on the ball, and he gets into the right positions. I know you can't really judge kids on a single game, but all three of the top prospects showed glimpses of their potential today, and Rich's were the most exciting. Ignoring what a particular club needs, I'd take him at #1 without a moment's hesitation. Will be an absolute superstar.
30 Chris Yarran: Was impressive when he was around the ball, which wasn't too much (as is perhaps expected for a small forward in a losing team). He has a good footy brain. Also laid some good tackles and took a big pack mark. Looks like Michael Long from a distance. I liked him, but I don't think he's the sort of player we need. He will be a small forward who pinch-hits in the middle, not a midfielder who rests as a small forward.
5 Matt Deboer: I didn't notice him a lot, but as he was at the bottom of a lot of packs, that isn't an accurate representation of his game. It's hard to judge an inside midfielder from ground level. Perhaps someone who watched on TV could be a bit more helpful.
4 Stephen Hill: Works very hard for his possessions. Kicked a couple of great goals running the lines. Is pacy and a very good kick. Is a true gut runner. Was impressive today.
7 Neville Jetta: Was very quiet until the last quarter, when he did a few things like his cousin.
VM:
4 Jack Watts: Has feet like a crumber, not a key forward. Was a little quiet, but when he had the ball, he was very impressive, playing like a number 1 draft pick.
18 Michael Hurley: Classy. Has a big fist and a big kick (that horrible clanger aside). A few great spoils, and a couple of times he charged into packs with his fist and put the ball out of play, a key defender's first aim. He read the play well and kept his man quiet.
32 Tom Scully: Had a great third quarter. Has nice skills and got a lot of the ball in the 2nd half. Played well.
24 David Zaharakis: Kicked a very nice goal. Has a lot of pace. Composed, good skills, got a lot of the ball. Looks like a top 10 draft pick.
23 Luke Shuey: Played well, got a fair bit of the ball. Has nice skills. One a one-on-four at ground level, which was impressive.
9 Shaun McKernan: Very physical. Has a good mark and kick. Looked a fraction too short for the ruck, but was good around the ground as well.
28 Sam Blease: Had a great first quarter. Good kick, and a good goal in the fourth quarter.
5 Luke Stanton: The first thing I wrote down about him was "I want Luke Stanton". He was involved in everything early from a wing, and really wanted the ball, and was demanding it from team-mates, which is a good thing. Well and truly worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
33 Tyrone Vickery: Big forward, good mark, good kick, huge leap. Played well in the ruck as well.
1 Mitchell Banner: Impressive at times, but has no left side.
8 Tom Lynch: Played well. Had a lot of the ball, and used it well.
Votes:
1. Tom Lynch (VM, #8)
2. David Zaharakis (VM, #24)
3. Daniel Rich (WA, #10)
A very high quality game. The Vics had more contributors, but there was a lot of class shown from some of the Sandgropers as well as the Vics. An excellent game, one of the best I've seen in a few weeks at least.
Player notes:
WA:
44 Nicholas Naitanui: I'll preface this by saying that I was deliberately being critical of NickNat, so I wouldn't get caught up in the hype of the good things he could do - and believe me, he can do them. He has a slick handball, and good vision to go with it. However, his kicking action is poor. It's not just that his kicking is poor in regards to hitting targets, the entire action is extremely awkward, and he seems to drop the ball from higher up. He looks a bit lost under pressure, and looks for a handball. I think that he lacks a bit of confidence in his kicking. Has good upper body strength. His leap is everything that it's talked up to be, and he has a good mark. Although it's a little unfair to compare him to someone 3 years more developed than him, I think he's the better athlete out of him and Ryder, but Paddy is a better footballer. That could change, but I think it's a fair description.
10 Daniel Rich: The best player today. He was exceptional. He has a brilliant, and huge, kick. Seems to have a lot of time on the ball, and he gets into the right positions. I know you can't really judge kids on a single game, but all three of the top prospects showed glimpses of their potential today, and Rich's were the most exciting. Ignoring what a particular club needs, I'd take him at #1 without a moment's hesitation. Will be an absolute superstar.
30 Chris Yarran: Was impressive when he was around the ball, which wasn't too much (as is perhaps expected for a small forward in a losing team). He has a good footy brain. Also laid some good tackles and took a big pack mark. Looks like Michael Long from a distance. I liked him, but I don't think he's the sort of player we need. He will be a small forward who pinch-hits in the middle, not a midfielder who rests as a small forward.
5 Matt Deboer: I didn't notice him a lot, but as he was at the bottom of a lot of packs, that isn't an accurate representation of his game. It's hard to judge an inside midfielder from ground level. Perhaps someone who watched on TV could be a bit more helpful.
4 Stephen Hill: Works very hard for his possessions. Kicked a couple of great goals running the lines. Is pacy and a very good kick. Is a true gut runner. Was impressive today.
7 Neville Jetta: Was very quiet until the last quarter, when he did a few things like his cousin.
VM:
4 Jack Watts: Has feet like a crumber, not a key forward. Was a little quiet, but when he had the ball, he was very impressive, playing like a number 1 draft pick.
18 Michael Hurley: Classy. Has a big fist and a big kick (that horrible clanger aside). A few great spoils, and a couple of times he charged into packs with his fist and put the ball out of play, a key defender's first aim. He read the play well and kept his man quiet.
32 Tom Scully: Had a great third quarter. Has nice skills and got a lot of the ball in the 2nd half. Played well.
24 David Zaharakis: Kicked a very nice goal. Has a lot of pace. Composed, good skills, got a lot of the ball. Looks like a top 10 draft pick.
23 Luke Shuey: Played well, got a fair bit of the ball. Has nice skills. One a one-on-four at ground level, which was impressive.
9 Shaun McKernan: Very physical. Has a good mark and kick. Looked a fraction too short for the ruck, but was good around the ground as well.
28 Sam Blease: Had a great first quarter. Good kick, and a good goal in the fourth quarter.
5 Luke Stanton: The first thing I wrote down about him was "I want Luke Stanton". He was involved in everything early from a wing, and really wanted the ball, and was demanding it from team-mates, which is a good thing. Well and truly worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
33 Tyrone Vickery: Big forward, good mark, good kick, huge leap. Played well in the ruck as well.
1 Mitchell Banner: Impressive at times, but has no left side.
8 Tom Lynch: Played well. Had a lot of the ball, and used it well.
Votes:
1. Tom Lynch (VM, #8)
2. David Zaharakis (VM, #24)
3. Daniel Rich (WA, #10)
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Interesting. I didn't notice him much. I have to say that I was focusing much more on Vic Country.
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Thanks for the feedback Ben
Were you at the games, or did you just watch on TV? It would have been good to say hi to you.
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so now that every one has seen all the players, who do we look for, player wise, with what picks and so fourth.
first pick - Hurley, we need a key defender, seems to play most of his time at FB, so Paddy can stay at CHB, if we do not get Hurley, possibly Hartlett, looks a likely type.
2nd pick, A ruckmen maybe, tyrone vickery may still be around with the abundance of quality playersaround.
3rd pick, possibly a small defender, not sure who but yeah.
4th pick, maybe a tall utility running plaer, someone like a luke stanton maybe, seems to impress me more and more every time i see him.
rookie picks, i wouldnt mind seeing young jamie sheean, he seems a likely type, similar to a brent harvey, small, goes in hard, can push forward and kick goals, thoughts. opinions.
first pick - Hurley, we need a key defender, seems to play most of his time at FB, so Paddy can stay at CHB, if we do not get Hurley, possibly Hartlett, looks a likely type.
2nd pick, A ruckmen maybe, tyrone vickery may still be around with the abundance of quality playersaround.
3rd pick, possibly a small defender, not sure who but yeah.
4th pick, maybe a tall utility running plaer, someone like a luke stanton maybe, seems to impress me more and more every time i see him.
rookie picks, i wouldnt mind seeing young jamie sheean, he seems a likely type, similar to a brent harvey, small, goes in hard, can push forward and kick goals, thoughts. opinions.
No, i watched it on Foxtel
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Very disappointed in Hurleys game today and doubt he could play FB at AFL level.
He was directly responsible for 3 goals in a team that pumped the opposition.
All in all i was disappointed in a lot of the top hyped up choices but it was only one game.
Vickery is a likely type, not sure where he is rated.
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Here's my rap up of the W.A Boys.
4 Stephen HILL 01-May-90 182 72 West Perth Football Club
- Likely type. Good frame for utility
- Needs to bulk up, disposal affected by frame, ie breaking tackles
- Good attack on the ball
- Nice speed
- Penetrating kick on the left
5 Matthew DEBOER 10-Mar-90 187 85 Claremont Football Club
- Fairly disappointing.
- Has had a more than reasonable carnival but a tad dissapointing
- his disposal was reasonably assured, especially by hand.
- Certainly knows where to go the find the footy but actually taking it from a contested situation is another matter
- A good carnival from a workhorse.
7 Neville JETTA 12-Feb-90 178 75 Swan Districts
- Worked hard all day
- Perhaps too small to think about playing midfield next year.
- Good disposal, ferocious tackler and certainly creative in close
- One of W.A’s better performed midfielders
- Very quick first 5 steps and runs well at top speed.'Betts like'
10 Daniel RICH 07-Jun-90 183 83 Subiaco Football Club
- 17 Possessions in the first half.
- It appeared as if both sides instructed their players no to tag in the first half.
- When the tag was placed on him in the second half he accepted it yet again
- It is a worrying trend, tends to remain stationery around a stoppage.
- For a kid without explosive pace he can’t afford to do that
- Having said that his best performance in the carnival and left foot is still damaging
- Still not sure if he should be considered ‘Elite’
17 Michael WALTERS 07-Jan-91 177 75 Swan Districts Football Club- Best on Ground for W.A along with Clancee Pearce
- Worked well around the stoppages
- Very creative
- Nice acceleration and good closing speed
- Very High Footy IQ, exceptional positioning
- Hits most of his targets
23 Clancee PEARCE 23-Oct-90 183 85 Swan Districts
- Probably the BOG for W.A along with Walters from a HBF
- Reads the play very well, chopped off a few forays forward simply by reading the ball off the boot before his man
- Moves well in traffic, good disposal
- Very good closing speed
- Well built one preseason would be enough to get him “AFL Ready”
- Hits his targets well by foot, low ball drop ensures safety with kicks but slows his disposal time, may have to be wary of this at the next level.
30 Christopher YARRAN 19-Dec-90 180 84 Swan Districts Football Club
- Silk. That’s the first word that comes to mind.
- Fantastic skills at ground level, by hand and by foot.
- Used his body well to out position direct opponents. If he didn’t take the mark, his pace ensured he was gone when he picked the ball up.
- Out marked Mckernan one on one simply by reading the flight of the ball better and using his body to good effect.
- Perhaps needs to do more further up the ground. When cast in the middle tended to lean forward of the play searching for kicks, similar to Rich in that aspect.
- Definitely AFL Ready and a fairly safe bet for a Forward Pocket HFF who could develop into a midfielder
4 Stephen HILL 01-May-90 182 72 West Perth Football Club
- Likely type. Good frame for utility
- Needs to bulk up, disposal affected by frame, ie breaking tackles
- Good attack on the ball
- Nice speed
- Penetrating kick on the left
5 Matthew DEBOER 10-Mar-90 187 85 Claremont Football Club
- Fairly disappointing.
- Has had a more than reasonable carnival but a tad dissapointing
- his disposal was reasonably assured, especially by hand.
- Certainly knows where to go the find the footy but actually taking it from a contested situation is another matter
- A good carnival from a workhorse.
7 Neville JETTA 12-Feb-90 178 75 Swan Districts
- Worked hard all day
- Perhaps too small to think about playing midfield next year.
- Good disposal, ferocious tackler and certainly creative in close
- One of W.A’s better performed midfielders
- Very quick first 5 steps and runs well at top speed.'Betts like'
10 Daniel RICH 07-Jun-90 183 83 Subiaco Football Club
- 17 Possessions in the first half.
- It appeared as if both sides instructed their players no to tag in the first half.
- When the tag was placed on him in the second half he accepted it yet again
- It is a worrying trend, tends to remain stationery around a stoppage.
- For a kid without explosive pace he can’t afford to do that
- Having said that his best performance in the carnival and left foot is still damaging
- Still not sure if he should be considered ‘Elite’
17 Michael WALTERS 07-Jan-91 177 75 Swan Districts Football Club- Best on Ground for W.A along with Clancee Pearce
- Worked well around the stoppages
- Very creative
- Nice acceleration and good closing speed
- Very High Footy IQ, exceptional positioning
- Hits most of his targets
23 Clancee PEARCE 23-Oct-90 183 85 Swan Districts
- Probably the BOG for W.A along with Walters from a HBF
- Reads the play very well, chopped off a few forays forward simply by reading the ball off the boot before his man
- Moves well in traffic, good disposal
- Very good closing speed
- Well built one preseason would be enough to get him “AFL Ready”
- Hits his targets well by foot, low ball drop ensures safety with kicks but slows his disposal time, may have to be wary of this at the next level.
30 Christopher YARRAN 19-Dec-90 180 84 Swan Districts Football Club
- Silk. That’s the first word that comes to mind.
- Fantastic skills at ground level, by hand and by foot.
- Used his body well to out position direct opponents. If he didn’t take the mark, his pace ensured he was gone when he picked the ball up.
- Out marked Mckernan one on one simply by reading the flight of the ball better and using his body to good effect.
- Perhaps needs to do more further up the ground. When cast in the middle tended to lean forward of the play searching for kicks, similar to Rich in that aspect.
- Definitely AFL Ready and a fairly safe bet for a Forward Pocket HFF who could develop into a midfielder
Brother.
These 2 players, while not hyped like others, were both very very impressive.
As Trump said Pearce would be ready to go next year. He impressed me a lot actually.
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you are a smart man, merv, what do you think about the number 10 from SA, Jay Shannon, absolutely dominated on my home turf on saturday, well 2nd B/O/G to Hartlett, but still, think he is really hard at it and is a nice size, kicking was a little disapointing, but you can work on that. also any ruckmen that caught your eye outside the normal, nicknat, mckernan,vickery hype.
Don't quote me on this but isn't the only one we have Bristow who plays with Bendigo?
I might be way off with that.
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I was more impressed with Hurley than Vickery.
Hurley played a great game IMO. Knows how to use his body and has good skills for a big man.
Behind maybe Blease and Zarkahis or what ever his name his I thought he was one of Victoria's best.
I dont think Vickery has what it takes to be an AFL KPP. A monster at the moment but I dont think he has what is neccesary to make it in the big boys league
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Merve, along with Pearce this kis impresses me the most.
17 Michael WALTERS 07-Jan-91 177 75 Swan Districts Football Club- Best on Ground for W.A along with Clancee Pearce
- Worked well around the stoppages
- Very creative
- Nice acceleration and good closing speed
- Very High Footy IQ, exceptional positioning
- Hits most of his targets
Wearing 17 left footer, your thoughts?
17 Michael WALTERS 07-Jan-91 177 75 Swan Districts Football Club- Best on Ground for W.A along with Clancee Pearce
- Worked well around the stoppages
- Very creative
- Nice acceleration and good closing speed
- Very High Footy IQ, exceptional positioning
- Hits most of his targets
Wearing 17 left footer, your thoughts?
I was more impressed with Hurley than Vickery.
Hurley played a great game IMO. Knows how to use his body and has good skills for a big man.
Behind maybe Blease and Zarkahis or what ever his name his I thought he was one of Victoria's best.
I dont think Vickery has what it takes to be an AFL KPP. A monster at the moment but I dont think he has what is neccesary to make it in the big boys league
Hurley is a man playing against boys, that's why he uses his body well, he just manhandles them and if you noticed the ball kicked to the centre of the ground and that player tried to back back and take the mark, can't remember who it was, once he hit Hurley, he was out of the contest.
I'm not saying he is crap and when he has the ball he uses it very well and directs the troops and appears somewhat of a leader but when he plays against men, he will find things very very different.
Naitanui turned him inside out twice, for 2 goals and he was directly responsible for 3 goals in a team that was winning the midfield battles and most of the kicks coming in were under pressure.
He might have closing speed but he is slow off the mark and doesn't look very athletic.
For all the hype, he wasn't that good at all.
Again, the only game i have seen him play this year though.
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I was really impressed with Hurley today. I thought he punched and spoiled well, and the dreadful clanger, which ant said to me was the worst kick he'd ever seen Hurley do, aside, he was pretty good with his feet.
I'd like, perhaps optimistically, but more realistically than you'd think:
1st: Hurley
2nd: Suban/Swift/Sheehan
3rd: Stanton
4th: another mid perhaps Alex Wilson (whoever's available, and there'll be lots)
5th (yes I know): Jarred Redden/John Butcher/Tyrone Vickery (if there)
Rookie: Jacob Hislop, Brodie A'Vard, Brentyn Milverton
I'd like, perhaps optimistically, but more realistically than you'd think:
1st: Hurley
2nd: Suban/Swift/Sheehan
3rd: Stanton
4th: another mid perhaps Alex Wilson (whoever's available, and there'll be lots)
5th (yes I know): Jarred Redden/John Butcher/Tyrone Vickery (if there)
Rookie: Jacob Hislop, Brodie A'Vard, Brentyn Milverton
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Yeah fair point. I think it was young Marsh.
Having said that he did pick up the flight of the ball before him meaning he could protect that space.
It's no great shame to be turned inside out by Naita, he's been doing that to AFL listed players in the WAFL.
I suppose I was more impressed by him due to the fact that W.A's KPP's were so poor.
Your thoughts on Walters?
Merve, along with Pearce this kis impresses me the most.
17 Michael WALTERS 07-Jan-91 177 75 Swan Districts Football Club- Best on Ground for W.A along with Clancee Pearce
- Worked well around the stoppages
- Very creative
- Nice acceleration and good closing speed
- Very High Footy IQ, exceptional positioning
- Hits most of his targets
Wearing 17 left footer, your thoughts?
Yes, i liked him also and has a touch of class along with pace.
I didn't want to comment on the well known players, unless in the negative, as they are well known and get hyped enough.
More interested in the guys i haven't seen before or heard about.
Like that small kid from Vic Country Hughes.
Now there is a kid with some footy smarts, but he's the size of a jockey...
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sheean a second rounder, hm, stanton i like the look of. 4th rounder, Jay Shannon maybe, i keep harping on about him, but he just seems to impress me the way he goes about his footy.
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Yes, i liked him also and has a touch of class along with pace.
I didn't want to comment on the well known players, unless in the negative, as they are well known and get hyped enough.
More interested in the guys i haven't seen before or heard about.
Like that small kid from Vic Country Hughes.
Now there is a kid with some footy smarts, but he's the size of a jockey...
Did you go the game?
It seemed to me that both sides decided there would be no tags in the first half?
And this is what frustrates me about Rich. All tournament he hasnt been able to get over the tag, then in the first half where there are no visible tags he picks up 17 possesions.
When both sides start tagging key players in the second half he goes missing.
Im not sold on him, not by a long shot
Did you go the game?
It seemed to me that both sides decided there would be no tags in the first half?
And this is what frustrates me about Rich. All tournament he hasnt been able to get over the tag, then in the first half where there are no visible tags he picks up 17 possesions.
When both sides start tagging key players in the second half he goes missing.
Im not sold on him, not by a long shot
No, I watched it on Foxtel.
I'm with you on Rich and while he is a great talent, he can be lazy and appears as if he can't be bothered and gives up.
He should get over the tag thing but the best way to beat a tag is hard work.
I think things have been a little bit too easy for him up until this year and last years champs are a perfect example of him running around free doing as he liked.
He should be a very good player and that kick of his is a rippa but we won't get him, so i don't worry about him much.
From what i saw today, i wouldn't be suprised if there were a few gobsmacked BF "experts" after the top 20 is called out draft day.
Then again, i have barely seen the kids this year, so am probably a bad one to make a judgment.
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