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gravy said:
Pretty much. If he has a good preseason and NAB cup he'll be the first rookie elevated. Look forward to seeing how he goes. Wish De Boer could be elevated as well, but I think we can be more patient with him.
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Why? De Boer has proven himself at AFL and is having a very good pre season and has an excellent pedigree in the state 18/s.Not saying Barlowe wont make it but surely hes down the pecking order with a fair bit to prove.Surely Barlowe is a suck it and see situation while De Boer is a known entity.
 
salim malik said:
Why? De Boer has proven himself at AFL and is having a very good pre season and has an excellent pedigree in the state 18/s.Not saying Barlowe wont make it but surely hes down the pecking order with a fair bit to prove.Surely Barlowe is a suck it and see situation while De Boer is a known entity.
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I don't think he is down the pecking order. I would say all rookies are equal, but with Barlow's age and build, he's probably got a head start over the others, just as Broughton did.
 
Lach72 said:
Ruffles will surely be on the LTI?
Did his knee in round 17?
So we could elevate them both...
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Yep, I think Barlow and De Boer will be elevated, although it depends whether they want to use a spot up for tall depth meaning Silvagni. Difficult to tell though, it's a long time from here to the start of the season.
 

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salim malik said:
Nothing against Barlow ,hope he makes it,but lets see what hes got before we talk him up as the next Judd.
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No one is, what have you got against Michael Barlow. All i said that he will be ready to play in round 1. im not saying he will but i think he should.
 
Barlow is a good player. The type who needed a few years to mature playing against men before reaching his potential.

I've seen a fair bit of him. I think he'll be a pretty serviceable player at AFL level.
 
didaka said:
Barlow is a good player. The type who needed a few years to mature playing against men before reaching his potential.

I've seen a fair bit of him. I think he'll be a pretty serviceable player at AFL level.
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Thanks Didaka
Who would you say he resembled palying style wise? Is he more an inside or outside mid in your mind?
 
sonson said:
It's pretty obvious Barlow has been picked in the same vein as Broughton, ie plug in and play, there's no point continuing to play him in the lower leagues, he's had 3-4 years, proven himself and cost virtually nothing.

He'll play in the main side early on, from what I've seen he is pretty one sided, but the thing I like about him is his diposal by foot, he is very deliberate when it comes to placing the ball on his boot and very rarely does he miss a target on his right.

Left foot is another story but his pace and agility hide this to a degree.
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He definitely is just like Broughton, but a different type of player in that one is a midfield/forward type and the other is definitely a tall defender no questions asked whatsoever.

The earlier he gets an opportunity, the better I think it will be for his confidence and development as an AFL footballer.
 
ben.carbonaro said:
He definitely is just like Broughton, but a different type of player in that one is a midfield/forward type and the other is definitely a tall defender no questions asked whatsoever.

The earlier he gets an opportunity, the better I think it will be for his confidence and development as an AFL footballer.
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give him a crack in the NAB cup for sure, if his form warrants, then a spot on the list :thumbsu:
 
On Barlow's kicking, which I agree was pretty good, he frequently ran onto his left side but than kicked with his right foot. Don't know if it is a habit he has picked up to wrong foot the opposition a bit or what?
 
kp junior said:
Thanks Didaka
Who would you say he resembled palying style wise? Is he more an inside or outside mid in your mind?
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To me he resembles a less gifted version of say Brett Deledio. He has really good modern day midfielder size, and it also makes a strong case for him to compete when forward.

At VFL level I'd say he is a bit of a hybrid as in he plays both as an inside and outside midfielder. More outside style, but has the ability to win the football inside. At AFL level I think he'd be more the outside type.

But like I said, his size is good, he's a really good mover, he makes good decisions, and brings team mates into the game.

I would've thought he'd go in the National Draft at 50 onwards, but the powers that be saw him fall into the rookie draft.

He was probably the best player in the VFL last year. Just missed out on the B&F if I remember correctly, and he missed a couple of games.

By the way, I used to live in Werribee at one time, and that's why I take a little bit of interest in their VFL side. I saw them live a few times during the 09 season.
 
Regarding Ruffles I don't think he did his knee that badly. He was moving around early after the injury (and op??) and at the Junior Christmas party he was kicking the ball around with the kids and only had a very light bandage on his left knee. Wasn't moving around flat out but being out there would indicate the knee is in pretty good shape.
 

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didaka said:
To me he resembles a less gifted version of say Brett Deledio. He has really good modern day midfielder size, and it also makes a strong case for him to compete when forward.

At VFL level I'd say he is a bit of a hybrid as in he plays both as an inside and outside midfielder. More outside style, but has the ability to win the football inside. At AFL level I think he'd be more the outside type.

But like I said, his size is good, he's a really good mover, he makes good decisions, and brings team mates into the game.

I would've thought he'd go in the National Draft at 50 onwards, but the powers that be saw him fall into the rookie draft.

He was probably the best player in the VFL last year. Just missed out on the B&F if I remember correctly, and he missed a couple of games.

By the way, I used to live in Werribee at one time, and that's why I take a little bit of interest in their VFL side. I saw them live a few times during the 09 season.
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Way to get our hopes up. How are his skills?
 
MorabitoISGUN said:
Defitnetley resembles Brett Deledio and should be a goal kicking midfielder
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The comparison that have been made between him and Deledio are very true, although haven't really heard Michael ever be compared to such a high profile player as the Richmond midfielder.

It will be interesting to see if he is played in the midfield from the start or if he will also spend time as a forward as well, he's versatile in that he can play in both parts of the ground.

He can play well in both parts of the ground as well, although I feel that him being given a midfield opportunity by our senior Werribee coach Simon Atkins is what definitely improved his draft/AFL football potential.
 
Freo Blood said:
Regarding Ruffles I don't think he did his knee that badly. He was moving around early after the injury (and op??) and at the Junior Christmas party he was kicking the ball around with the kids and only had a very light bandage on his left knee. Wasn't moving around flat out but being out there would indicate the knee is in pretty good shape.
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a reconstruction is a reconstruction isnt it? :confused:
 
Deledio comparison isn't that great imo.

He doesn't have close to the pace, explosiveness etc in game play.



Plays more like a Daniel Cross/Liam Anthony hybrid.
 
salim malik said:
Why? De Boer has proven himself at AFL and is having a very good pre season and has an excellent pedigree in the state 18/s.Not saying Barlowe wont make it but surely hes down the pecking order with a fair bit to prove.Surely Barlowe is a suck it and see situation while De Boer is a known entity.
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I'd hardly call De Boer a proven AFL player.


He played a tagging role for the majority of the season, in a underperforming midfield, hurt by quite a few injuries.

He was a decent player at 18's level, no star.

Is that what you have against Barlow?

He didn't come through the TAC system?


Again, averaging over 30 disposals a game in the strongest state league in the country, and almost winning its best and fairest as a 21 year old eclipses anything De Boer has done, that includes playing 17 AFL games.


If Barlow was on an AFL list last year, he would of played, going on his VFL form.

Hell, he would of played all season if he was at Melbourne for example.
 
Kickett Punches Read said:
a reconstruction is a reconstruction isnt it? :confused:
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Some are worse than others I think, depending on how much damage was done to the surrounding area. I think I remember hearing somewhere that Palmer's was quite a bad one.

And there was a guy from Adelaide a couple of years (forget who, Hentschel maybe?) where they said his knee was one of the worst ever seen. Resembled a car crash victim apparently.
 

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Pykie said:
I'd hardly call De Boer a proven AFL player.


He played a tagging role for the majority of the season, in a underperforming midfield, hurt by quite a few injuries.

He was a decent player at 18's level, no star.

Is that what you have against Barlow?

He didn't come through the TAC system?


Again, averaging over 30 disposals a game in the strongest state league in the country, and almost winning its best and fairest as a 21 year old eclipses anything De Boer has done, that includes playing 17 AFL games.


If Barlow was on an AFL list last year, he would of played, going on his VFL form.

Hell, he would of played all season if he was at Melbourne for example.
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In AFL terms, De Boer is ahead of Barlow. He has shown he's not out of his depth at that level. Barlow hasn't had the opportunity to do that yet, but he wouldn't be the first player to star at state league level before crashing at AFL level if he does.
 
Pykie said:
Again, averaging over 30 disposals a game in the strongest state league in the country, and almost winning its best and fairest as a 21 year old eclipses anything De Boer has done, that includes playing 17 AFL games.
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Not sure about that, we have Ryan Murphy who thinks nothing of kicking 10 goals in the WAFL yet can barely get a possession when he's promoted to the bigtime.

I'm looking forward to seeing Barlow in action come the pre-season.
 
Pykie said:
He was a decent player at 18's level, no star.
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What classifies as a star at 18's level? I can sort of see where you are coming from, and him not being drafted until the rookie draft agrees with the line above ... but DeBoer did make the All-Australian 18s team, rack up large stats and test impressively (athletically speaking). The only problem (and obviously a big question mark) is/was his kicking.

Back to Barlow ... the Cross/Anthony comparisons sound good. What about a comparison with Matthew Boyd ... both in playing style and the VFL-rookie list route? To get another Boyd would be something else.
 
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a reconstruction is a reconstruction isnt it? :confused:
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Sort of. If you damage the articular cartilage or meniscus things tend to progress slower and there possible greater long term implications. Think worst case scenario is someone like Trent Henschel(?) at the crows. Supposedly his knee was hanging on by skin and an artery.

Still you give it about a year for return to sport and 1-2 years to really return to full confidence etc.

Whether Chips was walking after or the size of bandage means nothing.
 

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