Michael Christian - The worst thing to happen to AFL

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Off-topic, but the way advantage rule is implemented is madness.

Umpire blows the whistle, the player with the ball has to either ignore it, thinking it's his teams free kick so they can take advantage, or risks giving away 50m penalty because he guessed the whistle the wrong way.

Other choice is, hears whistle, stops and then allows the opposing team to get numbers back.

We get taught to play to the whistle, but you can't do that in AFL anymore. You have to play until the double whistle.
I've always felt this, how it's funny that the only time the advantage rule is actually effective is that when frees paid are so inconsequential to the general run of play. Otherwise the whistle blows and no one really knows who the free is actually going to, much like your scenario.
 

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Nup, nothing, despite Higgins missing the rest of the game, having to go to hospital and requiring surgery. Pretty sure he missed the next week too, though would have to check.
All I can see is that it’s a complete joke. Comical in fact that highly paid executives can allow it to occur. There’s obviously an agenda. They can’t be that dumb and blind.

This is the Burton bump, now tell me he couldn’t have stopped and tackled? It was almost front on even though it wasn’t high, and clearly was an option to bump and not tackle.


This is Durdin. Have a look at circumstances; had to stop him chasing the north player, within distance of the north player, couldn’t tackle as he didn’t have the ball. Perfectly legitimate technique.


Now look at this mark from Ryan;

https://m.westcoasteagles.com.au/video/2019-05-17/liam-ryan-sends-optus-into-a-frenzy

Ok, now how close is Ryan’s knee to Gawns head? Very very close. Yet should Gawn have been concussed what would occur? Nothing. But hang on, Ryan CHOSE to carry out a potentially dangerous action.

MRP = all over the shop
 

demondavey

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Yep, it is utterly disgraceful.
The Burton Bump;
1. Bumped a player with the ball
2. Could have tackled
3. Was close to front on
4. Was probably mid range impact
5. Probably not intentional

The Durdin Bump;
1. Bumped a player without the ball
2. Couldn’t have tackled
3. Was side on
4. Low impact - hit him well under the head
5. Not intentional

Am I missing something or should I have Christian’s job?
 

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I've always felt this, how it's funny that the only time the advantage rule is actually effective is that when frees paid are so inconsequential to the general run of play. Otherwise the whistle blows and no one really knows who the free is actually going to, much like your scenario.
Yep, that 2nd scenario is the worse. The players without the ball will stop to see which way the umpire is pointing, but the player with the ball has gambled and taken off and has a huge advantage. The advantage only occurring due to the whistle.

I remember years ago when it was first brought in, if players around the ball carrier stopped, they would bring it back since it wasn't a flow in play.
 

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The Burton Bump;
1. Bumped a player with the ball
2. Could have tackled
3. Was close to front on
4. Was probably mid range impact
5. Probably not intentional

The Durdin Bump;
1. Bumped a player without the ball
2. Couldn’t have tackled
3. Was side on
4. Low impact - hit him well under the head
5. Not intentional

Am I missing something or should I have Christian’s job?
Here's one thing you missed. Remember the outrage when Kosi was bumped by Gia in a shepherd, very similar to the Rohan one.

Ignoring the rules of football, one player had the ball and should've expected pressure to arrive. The other was running and was blindsided.

Not saying I disagree with you and your logic, but this is the only way I can make sense of it.
 

demondavey

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Here's one thing you missed. Remember the outrage when Kosi was bumped by Gia in a shepherd, very similar to the Rohan one.

Ignoring the rules of football, one player had the ball and should've expected pressure to arrive. The other was running and was blindsided.

Not saying I disagree with you and your logic, but this is the only way I can make sense of it.
To think that Rohan could not have seen Durdin is comical.


I know the changes occurred, but the AFL has cocked this up. If you look at about 3:12, Durdin was practically in vision with Rohan. I don’t accept he was blindsided at all.
 

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To think that Rohan could not have seen Durdin is comical.


I know the changes occurred, but the AFL has cocked this up. If you look at about 3:12, Durdin was practically in vision with Rohan. I don’t accept he was blindsided at all.
Looks like he's got tunnel vision and hasn't even noticed anyone to his periphery.

I also don't think Durdin should've been suspended thoughm but it's the only way I can explain why Burton was ok, but Durdin not.
 

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The Burton Bump;
1. Bumped a player with the ball
2. Could have tackled
3. Was close to front on
4. Was probably mid range impact
5. Probably not intentional

The Durdin Bump;
1. Bumped a player without the ball
2. Couldn’t have tackled
3. Was side on
4. Low impact - hit him well under the head
5. Not intentional

Am I missing something or should I have Christian’s job?
The only thing you’re missing is the most ridiculous rule change.
If last year was this year he would’ve been suspended.
Really wish common sense was used by the MRO
 

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The only thing you’re missing is the most ridiculous rule change.
If last year was this year he would’ve been suspended.
Really wish common sense was used by the MRO
Like usual the idiots in charge change the rules based on one incident they didn't like. Not taking into account what will happen when they change them. The contact below the knees rule is the other example.
 

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I am so glad for old mate being part of the new MRP system, it means serious war criminals like Ivan Soldo don’t get to walk away scott free and are punished for their crimes against humanity.
 

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Jeez guys, just accept that soldo had a massive brain-fade and did something silly. His reaction said it all...he was genuinely concerned for worpel's welfare after he clipped him
 

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Dead set I think this bloke is trolling the footy world to make headlines.

Think about it - the AFL media is exponentially growing, there are new journos every year. But guess what? Nothing actually ******* happens in this sport. Unlike America, there is no mid season trade period, transfer period or college leagues. Yet they want the same amount of media coverage. So what do they do? They make the stories themselves by making bullshit tribunal decisions and goalpost climbing fiascos talking points for the 85 Superfooty articles and 4x AFL 360 episodes for the week.

The AFL are purposely trolling to feed the oversaturated media and cause more headlines, thus more exposure.

It’ll only stop once there is enough ‘happening’ in the sport to keep the journos busy. In my opinion we need a mid season draft, mid season trade period, national reserves league, permanent Thursday and Monday night fixtures and/or an U/21’s league and raise the playing age to 21.

That will keep the morons busy enough.
 

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Jeez guys, just accept that soldo had a massive brain-fade and did something silly. His reaction said it all...he was genuinely concerned for worpel's welfare after he clipped him
Compared to what ablett did twice, fyfe, and also Mitchell last year.

If they had all gone then fair enough no complaints. But soldo, grimes and the hawthorn player (cousins?) from this year should all feel extremely hard done by.

It's at the point where the mrp isn't just incompetent, it's corrupt because they are deliberately treating the star/brownlow contenders differently because of pr.
 

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Jeez guys, just accept that soldo had a massive brain-fade and did something silly. His reaction said it all...he was genuinely concerned for worpel's welfare after he clipped him
No doubt he clipped Worpel but he had virtually stopped as Worpel moved into his path. Worpel instigated the contact, more a reflex action than a brain fade. There was little chance of anything dangerous. Ablett, Fyfe were at full speed and were just lucky that the blows didn't contact where they could have as it could have been very serious. The consequences were far worse. Varcoe lined a player up with his head over the ball and hit him at full tilt and got one week like Soldo. The inconsistency is nonsensical.
 

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