Play Nice Michael Jordan vs LeBron James

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jod23

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I can criticise his offense, but I put on record when he brings it on the other side of the floor

Your critique of me(my LBJ assessment) is much the same way as folks look at the Champion-Data TedHopkins and box score of Dustin Martin and deduce that Martin got no <tackles> and will not play on his opponent (therefore =\= normsmith calibre) .

Its a Nashian Game Theory at CarnegieMellon interpretation or formula

Dusty will distribute and prioritise his efforts according to his impact on a game. Basketball is a game disproportionately affected by the performance on the offensive play, so LBJ will marshal his intensity to have the greatest influence on the game. Lesser players can be brought in to strengthen Richmond's tackle intensity

I think some of LBJ's ouevre (positive/complimentary) is blown out of proportion re:legacy and status

Just like Oregon marketing department and Nike mythos working hand-in-hand with David Falk made Jordan, so have Maverick Carter and Rich Falk made LeBron

80s to even 90s the debate was if Bird and Magic have surpassed Russell , skipping Wilt

Kyrie Irving and Ray Allen are not fans of LBJ and they played with him and saw him 'every day'

If one has not been an nba pro can one make deduction ,

this is both temporal and hindsight, perhaps Kobe was the best equipped to make judgement, but he threw his baton in the ring too

The Nashian Gametheory lens, I would have loved if LeBron was a 32per game scorer and had the knockdown midrange of Rip Hamilton and Demare DeRozan and Kawhi Leonard(know) then LeBron becomes a 22 and 12(assist) player in latter stages

but I am a simple punter

fidstar don't @ me wrt Embiid and Shaq , you know what I was saying

p'raps Rodman makes a go of job extinguishing Shaq's influence, but those hulking behemoths will be unstoppable* when they are playing their A-game

*asterisk was for potential conflict I make in impressing my argument

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I never know what you're arguing. It's just all nonsense.
 

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Joe Dumars ?
Michael Cooper ?
Alvin Robertson ?
Vernon Maxwell ?
Ron Harper ?
Sidney Moncrief ?
John Stockton ?

 
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jod23

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Joe Dumars ?
Michael Cooper ?
Alvin Robertson ?
Vernon Maxwell ?
Ron Harper ?
Sidney Moncrief ?
John Stockton ?

This again makes no sense.

You have just listed a bunch of players and then put a video up about Reggie Lewis playing on MJ in one game in like 1988 or something. Flesh it out mate.

Are you trying to say Lewis gave Jordan problems with his defense and what about these other guys that played against him? Like help us out and then maybe we can have a conversation about it.
 

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This again makes no sense.

You have just listed a bunch of players and then put a video up about Reggie Lewis playing on MJ in one game in like 1988 or something. Flesh it out mate.

Are you trying to say Lewis gave Jordan problems with his defense and what about these other guys that played against him? Like help us out and then maybe we can have a conversation about it.
they were tip-top first team All-defense , just showing Len Bias gave MJ fits

Simmons needs to take key from Jrue when he defends guys 40lbs and 6/7 inches on him , so BS does not get ragdolled by Giannis
 

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they were tip-top first team All-defense , just showing Len Bias gave MJ fits

Simmons needs to take key from Jrue when he defends guys 40lbs and 6/7 inches on him , so BS does not get ragdolled by Giannis
I dont know about giving MJ fits. He did block Jordans shot 4 times in that one game but Jordan still had I think 22 points. A bit was made about that game too and of course Jordan took that personally and scored 44 on 61% shooting in the next game against the Celtics.

Not sure why you mentioned Stockton in that other post either, he is a nasty little defender but never guarded Jordan because well he couldnt, the size was just too much. Jordan has said it himself though and said the bloke who gave him the most trouble was Joe Dumars.

Also you said Len Bias, I think you mean Reggie Lewis.
 

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I dont know about giving MJ fits. He did block Jordans shot 4 times in that one game but Jordan still had I think 22 points. A bit was made about that game too and of course Jordan took that personally and scored 44 on 61% shooting in the next game against the Celtics.

Not sure why you mentioned Stockton in that other post either, he is a nasty little defender but never guarded Jordan because well he couldnt, the size was just too much. Jordan has said it himself though and said the bloke who gave him the most trouble was Joe Dumars.

Also you said Len Bias, I think you mean Reggie Lewis.
it was not merely Byron Russell, backcourt defence had to sometimes take a man in transition offence, ofcourse half court MJ isolates and takes Stockton down to the block but this hypothetical is pre-Barcelona in MJs first quarter of his career , pre Russell , when pick and roll was not even core of NBA offended , during inchoate period when he installed and ran Jacksons triangle
 

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Not sure why you mentioned Stockton in that other post either, he is a nasty little defender but never guarded
I mentioned the preeminent backcourt defenders of this (80's) era , but you knew this

I never mentioned the Celtics pointguard Dennis Johnson or phoenix' dan marjele
 

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Um... ok.
if you cannot conceive I am a good-faith interlocutor and provided some recondite information then I can't help you

another element not mentioned is trend to statistics caterpillars (truck) or box score fillers when the boxscore has a zero-sum equilibrium with degrees expansion v restriction pending p.a.c.i.n.g on team strategy and the manifestation of the individual games (I am speaking of you Westbrook)

Jordan and Kobe thought they needed to shoot 50 times a game because they were their teams best offensive choice

LeBron is not their equal on the offensive end but he may be as good as Magic and Stockton as a distributor with an advantage of being a significant offensive threat himself
 

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if you cannot conceive I am a good-faith interlocutor and provided some recondite information then I can't help you

another element not mentioned is trend to statistics caterpillars (truck) or box score fillers when the boxscore has a zero-sum equilibrium with degrees expansion v restriction pending p.a.c.i.n.g on team strategy and the manifestation of the individual games (I am speaking of you Westbrook)

Jordan and Kobe thought they needed to shoot 50 times a game because they were their teams best offensive choice

LeBron is not their equal on the offensive end but he may be as good as Magic and Stockton as a distributor with an advantage of being a significant offensive threat himself
Hahaha :D
 

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