Settle down, I haven't seen anything to suggest he 'cracked the shits'. He might have just felt that it would benefit no-one if he coached the season out. Of which he'd probably be right.
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Settle down, I haven't seen anything to suggest he 'cracked the shits'. He might have just felt that it would benefit no-one if he coached the season out. Of which he'd probably be right.
Coaches who oversaw four successive years of no finals (with record in 5th year and beyond where applicable):
Club|Years|Coach|Record after 4th year|Notes
\Br|1991-1994|Walls, Robert|10-13-0|8th;told after R15 5th year he wouldn't be re-appointed
\Br|2005-2008|Matthews, Leigh|-|
\Ca|2003-2007|Pagan, Denis|4-12-0|sacked after R16 4th year
\Co|1940-1944|McHale, Jock|73-47-2|10th,3rd,3rd,5th,3rd,4th
\Co|1996-1999|Shaw, Tony|-|
\Es|1936-1939|Baggott, Jack|-|resigned after R6 4th year
\Fr|1995-1998|Neesham, Gerard|-|
\Ha|1935-1938|McAlpine, Ivan|-|
\Ha|1952-1956|Hale, Jack|29-26-0|3rd,6th,7th
\Ha|1967-1970|Kennedy, John J.|98-43-0|1st,6th,7th,3rd,2nd,1st
\Me|1929-1932|Warne-Smith, Ivor|-|
\Me|1974-1977|Skilton, Bob|-|
\Me|1981-1985|Barassi, Ron D.|6-16-0|11th;saw out unsuccessful 5-year plan
\Me|2008-2011|Bailey, Dean|-|sacked after R19 4th year
\NM|1959-1962|Carter, F. Wally|-|
\NM|1963-1966|Killigrew, Alan|-|
\NM|1967-1970|McKenzie, Keith|-|
\Ri|1948-1952|Dyer senior, Jack|-|
\Ri|1957-1960|McDonald, Alan|-|
\Ri|1988-1991|Bartlett, Kevin|-|
\Ri|2005-2009|Wallace, Terry|2-9-0|sacked after R11 5th year
\Sy|1925-1928|Pannam, Charlie E.|-|
\Sy|1954-1957|Matthews, J. Herbie|-|
\WB|1957-1960|Whitten senior, Ted|74-96-0|2nd,5th,9th,7th,10th,10th,11th,7th,8th
\WB|1962-1966|Whitten senior, Ted|31-49-0|10th,11th,7th,8th
\WB|1986-1989|Malthouse, Mick|-|
\Fi|1965-1970|Stephen, Bill|36-51-1|10th,9th; returned in 1979 - 4th,12th
\Fi|1971-1974|Donaldson, Graham|-|
\Fi|1991-1994|Shaw, Robert|-|Kennedy the only future premiership coach among them, having previously won in 1961.
\Br|1991-1994|Walls, Robert|10-13-0|8th;told after R15 5th year he wouldn't be re-appointed
\Br|2005-2008|Matthews, Leigh|-|
\Ca|2003-2007|Pagan, Denis|4-12-0|sacked after R16 4th year
\Co|1940-1944|McHale, Jock|73-47-2|10th,3rd,3rd,5th,3rd,4th
\Co|1996-1999|Shaw, Tony|-|
\Es|1936-1939|Baggott, Jack|-|resigned after R6 4th year
\Fr|1995-1998|Neesham, Gerard|-|
\Ha|1935-1938|McAlpine, Ivan|-|
\Ha|1952-1956|Hale, Jack|29-26-0|3rd,6th,7th
\Ha|1967-1970|Kennedy, John J.|98-43-0|1st,6th,7th,3rd,2nd,1st
\Me|1929-1932|Warne-Smith, Ivor|-|
\Me|1974-1977|Skilton, Bob|-|
\Me|1981-1985|Barassi, Ron D.|6-16-0|11th;saw out unsuccessful 5-year plan
\Me|2008-2011|Bailey, Dean|-|sacked after R19 4th year
\NM|1959-1962|Carter, F. Wally|-|
\NM|1963-1966|Killigrew, Alan|-|
\NM|1967-1970|McKenzie, Keith|-|
\Ri|1948-1952|Dyer senior, Jack|-|
\Ri|1957-1960|McDonald, Alan|-|
\Ri|1988-1991|Bartlett, Kevin|-|
\Ri|2005-2009|Wallace, Terry|2-9-0|sacked after R11 5th year
\Sy|1925-1928|Pannam, Charlie E.|-|
\Sy|1954-1957|Matthews, J. Herbie|-|
\WB|1957-1960|Whitten senior, Ted|74-96-0|2nd,5th,9th,7th,10th,10th,11th,7th,8th
\WB|1962-1966|Whitten senior, Ted|31-49-0|10th,11th,7th,8th
\WB|1986-1989|Malthouse, Mick|-|
\Fi|1965-1970|Stephen, Bill|36-51-1|10th,9th; returned in 1979 - 4th,12th
\Fi|1971-1974|Donaldson, Graham|-|
\Fi|1991-1994|Shaw, Robert|-|
I'm pretty sad about losing Vossy. Not necessarily because I mourn his loss as a coach but its sad to see a legend of the club suffer this fate. Let's temper our criticism of his coaching and celebrate what he did for us.
Don't wanna feel like "Let's Roar Like 44" at a Fitzroy/Brisbane function in the future giving Michael a standing ovation knowing that in a public forum he's repeatedly bagged him.
Don't wanna feel like "Let's Roar Like 44" at a Fitzroy/Brisbane function in the future giving Michael a standing ovation knowing that in a public forum he's repeatedly bagged him.
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Yeh, I reckon they've got Roos already and they might just be making sure of it before anyone else can. Sounds familiar.
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Roos to Brisbane you can lock it in Eddy. The only other job available is the Demons, but they only give coaches 30 games, doubt a contract with the Demons would be worth the paper its written on. Demons supporters are now getting their Karma - Mark Neeld will be pissing himself laughing.
Bit gutless to hide it in the Hird hoo-ha.
I started a thread a couple of months back, that coaches should surely do their coaching apprenticeship.
It appears to backfire royally if you walk in untried.
I started a thread a couple of months back, that coaches should surely do their coaching apprenticeship.
It appears to backfire royally if you walk in untried.
Mister Carlton
Better than you.
Vale Crazy Vossy.
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I just think he's a horrible coach. To me he is the Brisbane Lions coach and the greatest player to ever play for the club, nothing more, nothing less. The latter is history, I'll never forget what he did as a player, no- one would, but at the moment he is/ was the coach of the Club I support, nothing else, and his coaching style and tactics have been shocking.
BlackCaviar
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Voss and Buckley aren't being charged with bringing the game into dispute .
Voss also didn't have the luxury of having any experience with premierships. Bucks was MM assistant, Hird had Bomber whispering in his ear.
Until Hird has been cleared of anything, it will always be Buckley and Voss miles ahead of Hird.
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so if we don't get Roos , who else are you going back or just backstab
Dear me why the anger? It's just my opinion, and if they have pulled this off then congratulations to them. May surprise you but I havent been a big fan of the current board, but if they have achieved Roos, then that's a win. If Roos is there for the next 4 years without a finals appearance, I am sure I won't be the only one wanting another change.
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A former NZ rugby club CEO, a chairman with some AFLQ pedigree, and a bunch of corporate blow ins.
The jumper, attacking the FFC, rolling over like bitches on 6 Melbourne games a year, now this. They are a ******* disgrace, and need to be shown the door.
This will present the first real opportunity to do just that, and I hope it's taken.
Safe to say that these were everyones reactions?
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it's funny can you see both sets of supporters in 3 years time
If Brisbane are playing finals:
Voss backers - "It's all because of the foundations Voss laid"
Voss detractors - "It's all because we finally got a new coach"
If Brisbane aren't playing finals:
Voss backers - "It's all because this new guy can't coach and we should've stuck with Voss"
Voss detractors - "It's all because of the lack of foundations Voss laid"
If Brisbane are playing finals:
Voss backers - "It's all because of the foundations Voss laid"
Voss detractors - "It's all because we finally got a new coach"
If Brisbane aren't playing finals:
Voss backers - "It's all because this new guy can't coach and we should've stuck with Voss"
Voss detractors - "It's all because of the lack of foundations Voss laid"
wayne brittain called Roos coaching brisbane next year on ABC radio three or so months ago and it didn't seem like the usual baseless speculation.
Rack Watts
Here's MASON
Assistant coach please!
LegendakaRICHO
Cancelled
well pretty much confirms browns and blacks retirement
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Why? Both should retire anyway but I don't think this will have any effect on their decision.
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Those people havent just jumped on in the last 2 hours and starting saying it, some have been saying it for years. Game plan, tactics, match ups etc etc is all crap, a good win every 8 weeks and a few consolation wins against the bottom 4 teams aint gonna get any coach anywhere. No coach in the history of the game has been offered a 6th year with a record as bad as Voss'.
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We almost had him once before. Sliding doors
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What I don't get is why it couldn't wait 3 more weeks and just let him coach out his contract? Who else is in the market for a coach besides LOLbourne?
The only AFL fans I have ever met who expect finals every year have all been under the age of 10 but I think you are much older than that which is not a good look for you. Richmond have made finals 3 times in the past 31 years, the poor Bulldogs fans haven't seen their team win a Grand Final in 60+ years. Unfortunately for you, your expectations to not match reality. You may label Lions posters on the Lions BigFooty board as people who accept mediocrity because we don't crack the shits when the team doesn't make finals each year but in reality, like the majority of AFL fans and fans of each individual club, we understand building a list takes time and it is not something that happens over night. You are probably the only one who thinks 10 wins in the 2nd year of a rebuild is woeful and embarrassing.
As long as he doesn't go back to special comments on the TV I won't be too disappointed that a spud coach got sacked.
