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It might be a bit quick to go picking at the carcass that is the Brisbane coaching job but gee I reckon Vossy would be a great pick up as an assistant coach, especially as a midfield coach, no disrespect to the current coaches but its not everyday someone like Michael Voss becomes available.

We all know our penchant for ex Brisbane players on our coaching staff (Scott, Lappin, O'Bree and Caracella). I like the connection there.

It could be an avenue worth pursuing.

But on the other hand if you believe the jungle drums a number of Brisbane players were not really to happy with Vossy as coach and were contemplating leaving if he stayed on as coach. But in saying that a team that came back from 10 goals down against us was hardly a disgruntled group of players.

But he would certainly command a lot of respect from our players.

Thoughts?
 
muttonchops said:
It might be a bit quick to go picking at the carcass that is the Brisbane coaching job but gee I reckon Vossy would be a great pick up as an assistant coach, especially as a midfield coach, no disrespect to the current coaches but its not everyday someone like Michael Voss becomes available.

We all know our penchant for ex Brisbane players on our coaching staff (Scott, Lappin, O'Bree and Caracella). I like the connection there.

It could be an avenue worth pursuing.

But on the other hand if you believe the jungle drums a number of Brisbane players were not really to happy with Vossy as coach and were contemplating leaving if he stayed on as coach. But in saying that a team that came back from 10 goals down against us was hardly a disgruntled group of players.

But he would certainly command a lot of respect from our players.

Thoughts?
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Let me think about it.

I'd get a compass, screw with the needle so it points away from magnetic north, then give it to Vossy to ensure he never finds his way within 500 miles of Geelong.

It's been a perfect lesson in why you don't recruit favourite sons, you don't assess coaches on how good they were as players, you don't pick a coach who has done no apprenticeship whatsoever of any kind, and basically you don't pick a shaved ape who was a good footballer but is seriously clueless at both coaching, recruiting and man-management.

His appointment was a vestige of the days when any half-decent player around a premiershp side was thought to have some sort of magical quality that mere mortals didn't have. It's gradually dawning on (most) clubs that to win a premiership requires a collective effort from recruiters, players, coaches, and administrators. The days of one guy transforming clydesdales into racehorses has long gone.

No thanks.
 
Voss being sacked -seems harsh considering their 2nd half of the season -and the players behind him

Voss to Geelong -i think there would be a fallout with the Selwoods . When Troy Selwood was playing seniors for Brisbane -and got badly injured in a game-and was in hospital recuperating -Voss delisted him while he was still in hospital -and i dont think Voss told him either

Thus Voss to Geelong -in any capacity -1 million to one
 

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If the Herald Sun got it right this morning, sounds like Voss was not that popular with his players. His "sacking" stemmed what was expected to be potential mass walk-outs.
 
Partridge said:
Let me think about it.


It's been a perfect lesson in why you don't recruit favourite sons, you don't assess coaches on how good they were as players, you don't pick a coach who has done no apprenticeship whatsoever of any kind, and basically you don't pick a shaved ape who was a good footballer but is seriously clueless at both coaching, recruiting and man-management.


No thanks.
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There is nothing wrong with a favourite son becoming coach. Plenty have done it very well. Not necessarily at their home club. Some recent club favourite sons have been pretty good coaches.
Mark Thompson
John Worsfold
Paul Roos
To a lesser extent you can look at Hird and Buckley.

The main difference is that they all did an apprenticeship whereas Voss didn't. Yes Voss' career at the Lions may not have been the best and maybe because he did no apprenticeship but 5 years as a senior coach is not a bad thing to have on your resume. He must have learnt something from the mistakes he made.

Clearly not met so far on this board with the warmest reception. We are all entitled to our opinion. I for one would not be dead against it if Scotty thought it was a good idea.
 
muttonchops said:
There is nothing wrong with a favourite son becoming coach. Plenty have done it very well. Not necessarily at their home club. Some recent club favourite sons have been pretty good coaches.
Mark Thompson
John Worsfold
Paul Roos
To a lesser extent you can look at Hird and Buckley.

The main difference is that they all did an apprenticeship whereas Voss didn't. Yes Voss' career at the Lions may not have been the best and maybe because he did no apprenticeship but 5 years as a senior coach is not a bad thing to have on your resume. He must have learnt something from the mistakes he made.

Clearly not met so far on this board with the warmest reception. We are all entitled to our opinion. I for one would not be dead against it if Scotty thought it was a good idea.
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Hird and Voss have proven to be failures for different reasons, but both cases reinforce what you say, that would be AFL coaches must serve an apprenticeship, preferably at another club.

I'd much rather Simon Black, who looks set to retire, be brought in as midfield coach at Geelong. Part of the Brisbane midfield machine, respected by everyone, and well known to CS.
 
bulletproof said:
I think Voss and Scott have too much history for him to play second fiddle. He was a dominant leader as Captain, would be weird for him to take orders from one of his old team-mates.
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Was my initial thoughts. Chase Black seems more humble and down to earth IMO and probably the better (and smarter) footballer over a prolonged period too.
 
Jmac2225 said:
Was my initial thoughts. Chase Black seems more humble and down to earth IMO and probably the better (and smarter) footballer over a prolonged period too.
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Or have a talk to Lenny Hayes - at least there is no worry about having to move interstate that way.
 

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Or have a talk to Lenny Hayes - at least there is no worry about having to move interstate that way.
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Would love a bit of Lenny power. Great thinker, great man, great player, hugely respected, one of the best ever Saints.
And we already have Lappin, Black would be almost redundant.
I see Hayes as a future coach. Not sure about Black.
And there's always Lingy??
 

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There has been many many decent coaches whose onfield career was forgettable, from Tom Hafey to Denis Pagan.

How talented you were as a footballer is completely irrelevant as a coach. What does that matter was how you went about it so that as a player you were the best you could possibly be. Voss was a very talented footballer.
 
I like our apple cart right now...

sounds like Voss would upset it...

No thanks

Go Catters
 
Jim Boy said:
There has been many many decent coaches whose onfield career was forgettable, from Tom Hafey to Denis Pagan.
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Pagan is a very good example. Was hailed as a demigod at North, while everyone forgot he was coaching a group of players he'd known since they were kids. Once he was at a different club, and the game had evolved, he was useless. Coaches need to develop and adapt just as much as players do. Much like Hafey, Barassi and Jeans before him, and Sheedy after him, he couldn't do this.


Jim Boy said:
How talented you were as a footballer is completely irrelevant as a coach. What does that matter was how you went about it so that as a player you were the best you could possibly be. Voss was a very talented footballer.
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And how well you interact with players. How well you stay up to date with current tactics and strategies. How good your long term vision is for the club. How well you can develop the team. How well you can predict the trends of the game and have a team ready to play that way. How well you can recruit and build a list.

I'm far from convinced Voss has any of those qualities. After having learned the hard way, neither are Brisbane.
 
the guy that traded the farm for Fevola, when he had a very serviceable FF in Bradshaw

recruited top up spuds because he thought he had a premiership list

had a bunch of players jump ship to GC

you want that guy?
 

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