Michael Voss

[Power Pete]

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I've heard Vossy, and maybe KT, say a couple of times that Ken had sounded him out well before Walsh took the crows job. Ken knew that the crows were sniffing around, but whether that was because Phil had told him or he had other sources, who knows.

If you are correct - they have never said that to the media - then you have heard it around the club. I have heard Voss about 10 times since he got the gig and the story is always the same Hart rang him in October they talked about it for a few days and then he and his family discussed for 3 days before he said yes.

 

[Doctor Feel]

I believe that firm "none whatsoever" was actually a sarcastic "only if the Crows offer me a million a year!"

"And so I told them, offer me a few million and i'll do it, haha. They actually did it the absolute madmen!"

 

[Tibbs]

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He has lost weight & looking fitter! .... All that wrestling with Wines is paying off!!!

 

[Forzaport]

"And so I told them, offer me a few million and i'll do it, haha. They actually did it the absolute madmen!"

Phil probably did his best Dr. Evil impersonation just for shits and giggles. Then they accepted

 

[floodbuster]

It's a crazy contract. Even crazier when Walsh's strategy to date has been "copy Port".

If by "copy Port" you mean yelling at them to run faster, hit harder then yeah he is earning his money.

To be fair they aren't the only club trying to copy when you hear things about other teams trying to work on a free running goal scoring type of game plan this year, Dwayne Russell said that he thinks there could be a new high "points for" average this year.

 

[Phhht]

If by "copy Port" you mean yelling at them to run faster, hit harder then yeah he is earning his money.

To be fair they aren't the only club trying to copy when you hear things about other teams trying to work on a free running goal scoring type of game plan this year, Dwayne Russell said that he thinks there could be a new high "points for" average this year.

good good, let others work on free goal scoring systems whilst Kenny drills in on defence first

 

[Grave Danger]

Walsh tells Chapman "we need to speak". Chapman, perhaps sensing what's coming, recognizes that even if Walsh stayed with the Crows, their relationship would never achieve the intensity he had with Port. Realizing that he longs to return to Alberton, Chapman makes up a story that Walsh was only the latest in a long line of "million-dollar coaches." Walsh understands that Chapman is doing this to make it easy for him to leave. Chapman gives Walsh his lucky coin, which is revealed to be double headed. Walsh returns to where Keith Thomas had proposed his return to Alberton, finding KT there waiting. They shake hands...

 

[Ant Bear]

.....and KT offers him the chief waterboy role?

 

[Del80659]

where's that carlton bloke's video thread? I wanted to ask him to upload this..

 

[Andre]

If by "copy Port" you mean yelling at them to run faster, hit harder then yeah he is earning his money.

To be fair they aren't the only club trying to copy when you hear things about other teams trying to work on a free running goal scoring type of game plan this year, Dwayne Russell said that he thinks there could be a new high "points for" average this year.

Generally clubs try to copy the premiership winning side. Everyone is all about training like Port / copying Port this pre-season though.

 

[floodbuster]

Generally clubs try to copy the premiership winning side. Everyone is all about training like Port / copying Port this pre-season though.

And why wouldn't they, what Port's doing on and off the field is nothing short of astounding.
It's no coincidence that the oldest teams in the AFL occupy the top 6 spots except Port and that's because of what Burgo said the other day in that he thinks the AFL are lagging behind European soccer (and other world sports) in fitness and couple that with Ken's attack and defend at all costs approach we have a model that all teams need to copy, even in the international rules game at the end of last year the last quarter Boak, Wingard and Gray put on a clinic and Australia blew out the lead.

 

[tribey]

And why wouldn't they, what Port's doing on and off the field is nothing short of astounding.
It's no coincidence that the oldest teams in the AFL occupy the top 6 spots except Port and that's because of what Burgo said the other day in that he thinks the AFL are lagging behind European soccer (and other world sports) in fitness and couple that with Ken's attack and defend at all costs approach we have a model that all teams need to copy, even in the international rules game at the end of last year the last quarter Boak, Wingard and Gray put on a clinic and Australia blew out the lead.

Yeah. Let's face it, it was only wayward kicking and the sheer brilliance of a once or twice-a-decade priority pick power forward that prevented us from rolling the back-to-back premiers on their home turf.

You'd be crazy not to use Port Adelaide as a template.

 

[El_Scorcho]

The trick is to basically be uncopyable.

Hawthorn did this by drafting and trading in only elite kicks for 15 years. They now play a skillful style that simply can't be replicated by trying to play the same way. You have to overhaul your entire list. Hawthorn don't miss targets. They aren't invincible but they are very hard to beat.

I'm hoping Burgo's training methods are our uncopyable factor. While I don't want to see any player get injured, i'm hoping other teams struggle for various reasons when they try to emulate the sort of running our guys are doing. Either way, we should have a few years head start on anyone else trying the same style.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Ross Lyon is having a fapfest over port too as stated at the AGM. Brings back memories of the Matthew Primus coaches naughty corner with his 10 minute videos saying "see what sydney do here? This is what we are trying to do. Except really really badly."

One size does not fit all, not with fitness programs, not with game plans. Teams who are simply imitating are for the most part low or middle of the road teams, and not willing to take their own risks to innovate. The crows were always shit scared of falling down the ladder and the signs were there to be seen when they recruited Pods. So they are playing it 'safe' by simply imitating a top team rather than trying to reinvent the wheel.

Any team who wears stupidly large 'corky protectors' during training is gutless and will not be prepared for the hardened and ruthless teams that sink the knees in where possible, sledge and niggle. Exactly what a Voss trained midfield will excel at.

Big girls blouse, the lot of them. Have some guts to innovate, not imitate. It's always the struggling teams or those at risk of falling down the ladder who resort to spying and imitating to try an arrest a slide rather than build.

 

[finbarr]

The trick is to basically be uncopyable.

Hawthorn did this by drafting and trading in only elite kicks for 15 years. They now play a skillful style that simply can't be replicated by trying to play the same way. You have to overhaul your entire list. Hawthorn don't miss targets. They aren't invincible but they are very hard to beat.

I'm hoping Burgo's training methods are our uncopyable factor. While I don't want to see any player get injured, i'm hoping other teams struggle for various reasons when they try to emulate the sort of running our guys are doing. Either way, we should have a few years head start on anyone else trying the same style.

Let's face it, Nick Poulos trying to copy the Darren Burgess blueprint is like Mr Squiggle trying to draw the works of Da Vinci.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Let's face it, Nick Poulos trying to copy the Darren Burgess blueprint is like Mr Squiggle trying to draw the works of Da Vinci.

Crows fans be like "HURRRRYYY UUUUUPPPP"

 

[floodbuster]

Ross Lyon is having a fapfest over port too as stated at the AGM. Brings back memories of the Matthew Primus coaches naughty corner with his 10 minute videos saying "see what sydney do here? This is what we are trying to do. Except really really badly."

One size does not fit all, not with fitness programs, not with game plans. Teams who are simply imitating are for the most part low or middle of the road teams, and not willing to take their own risks to innovate. The crows were always shit scared of falling down the ladder and the signs were there to be seen when they recruited Pods. So they are playing it 'safe' by simply imitating a top team rather than trying to reinvent the wheel.

Any team who wears stupidly large 'corky protectors' during training is gutless and will not be prepared for the hardened and ruthless teams that sink the knees in where possible, sledge and niggle. Exactly what a Voss trained midfield will excel at.

Big girls blouse, the lot of them. Have some guts to innovate, not imitate. It's always the struggling teams or those at risk of falling down the ladder who resort to spying and imitating to try an arrest a slide rather than build.

Ross thinks that maybe Port's style is the way the game is going but everyone said that in 2007 when Geelong won with the same attacking style but then no one could copy that so everyone went back to the drawing board with full field defensive press's which yielded a premiership for Collingwood and Sydney and got St Kilda into a few big dances.

 

[tribey]

Big girls blouse, the lot of them. Have some guts to innovate, not imitate. It's always the struggling teams or those at risk of falling down the ladder who resort to spying and imitating to try an arrest a slide rather than build.

I still have vivid memories of going to a preseason training session in 2009 where all the match simulation drills were designed to ape Clarko's Cluster.

Chocôlat s'il vous plait

 

[Doctor Feel]

I still have vivid memories of going to a preseason training session in 2009 where all the match simulation drills were designed to ape Clarko's Cluster.

Chocôlat s'il vous plait

The rolling clarkos cluster maul of under 12's.

 

[El_Scorcho]

If you're going to copy a successful style, you have to make yourself ridiculously good at it, because it's only a matter of time before another style will usurp it.

 

[Doctor Feel]

If you're going to copy a successful style, you have to make yourself ridiculously good at it, because it's only a matter of time before another style will usurp it.

Then you try to copy the new style, and you are forever chasing tail.

 

[wharfietilidie]

speaking of un-copyable styles maybe ours is not just burgo but the constant drafting of running freaks over recent years in response to a looming interchange cap

 

[PowerForGood]

speaking of un-copyable styles maybe ours is not just burgo but the constant drafting of running freaks over recent years in response to a looming interchange cap

Didn't Choco foresee this (not the game style but the running over strength decisions).

 

[philreich]

I hate you all for making this pop up on my feed and reminding me that Vossy isn't a Lion anymore.



But seriously, good luck this year - can't help but be fond of the way you guys have turned yourselves around so quickly, I remember our scrappy affair in the pouring rain at AAMI in front of 13,953 in 2012, massive job well done.

And good luck to your mob in round 1 - any time Collingwood starts the year with a loss, there wouldn't be too many non Collingwood people complaining