Opinion Mick Malthouse MEGA THREAD

[Beloved]

Sack Malthouse, get Roos.

 

[Dramoth]

Can we discuss Mick and Mick alone in this thread?

Mick's ego will feel lonely if we start discussing who was the best defender.

Cheers.

However, Mick would appreciate the turn of discussion... seeing as how he was a defender for the Aints and Bitchmond

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Can we discuss Mick and Mick alone in this thread?

Mick's ego will feel lonely if we start discussing who was the best defender.

Cheers.

You should be tagging MM into this thread.

 

[Silvagnis]

You should be tagging MM into this thread.

Think MM posts on BF as JeffDunne with Mick being a former Saints player like Dunne.

JeffDunne's Carlton obsession has finally played itself and reached critical mass.

 

[The_Wookie]

He should have been in the discussions, he'd be just about the first player I'd have at CHB. Carey would probably agree.

look by your own admission you didnt see much of silvagni, so your opinion on this cant really be valid in this argument. Langford is also overlooked in these discussions

 

[HARKER]

look by your own admission you didnt see much of silvagni, so your opinion on this cant really be valid in this argument. Langford is also overlooked in these discussions

Langford played most of his career at full back whilst Mew took CHB.
If the discussion is about full backs, then Dench has to be in discussions.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Langford played most of his career at full back whilst Mew took CHB.
If the discussion is about full backs, then Dench has to be in discussions.

Discussion was about defenders.

 

[mediumsizered]

From memory the team of the century was announced at the end of 1996 at which time Jakovich had played 3 really good seasons. Some CHB who have Jako covered include the following:
Peter Knights came second in the 76 Brownlow despite missing about 5 games with a broken collar bone and second also in 78.
Paul Roos was a 7 time all australian over a 13 period.

There was a bloke by the name of Bruce Doull who went alright. CHB in our 1972, 1979 & 1981 premiership teams & FB in our 1982 premiership team. Named at HB in both the Carlton & AFL Team of the Century, yet played most his football as a KPD. Jakovich wouldn't even be in the same ball park as Doull.

 

[Sector 7G]

Roos never real played as a stopper on the key forwards - was very loose and a 3rd man in, rebounder type

not knocking him but lets compare like for like

In the 80s it was 6 forwards on 6 backs who pretty much stayed in their half. Roos beat the best CHF's by winning the ball and rebounding off them, while he was loose he was by no means a Nick Maxwell 3rd tall defender. My favourite non Carlton player which is funny given I now can't stand him as a commentator.

 

[Big Sim]

So Mick is starting work just after trade week finishes. Handy that.

 

[mediumsizered]

So Mick is starting work just after trade week finishes. Handy that.

No doubt he will ensure that Swann & McKay know exactly what to go after during trade month/year/millenium (how ever long it goes for). They will no doubt also be in regular contact with Malthouse during that period.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Certainly has been a thorough and exhaustive post-season review hasn't it??

We've made one phone call, and tadda, MM is here to save us.

Just sayin'.

 

[Barry Zuckercorn]

I'm hoping MM brings in Alan Jackovich as goal celebration coach.

 

[gbatman]

So Mick is starting work just after trade week finishes. Handy that.

I'm guessing things are getting run mostly by Andy McKay at the moment. I get the feeling he was very close to everything that was done football wise this year and has driven a lot of the changes thus far. Fair chance Malthouse and Carlton, particularly McKay are communicating regularly at the moment. I'm sure they would be building a trade week strategy. Surely they will go into trade week knowing what they are willing to give up and who they are going to go after. It's likely Swan, McKay and maybe Kernahan will be our big negotiators come trade week though it would be good to have Mick there but perhaps not overly necessary.

 

[rp84]

Hahaha love the irony.

All the anti-sack Ratten brigade are ripping on the new coach before he has even fully taken the reigns.

Sound familiar?

Hahaha wow.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

There was a bloke by the name of Bruce Doull who went alright. CHB in our 1972, 1979 & 1981 premiership teams & FB in our 1982 premiership team. Named at HB in both the Carlton & AFL Team of the Century, yet played most his football as a KPD. Jakovich wouldn't even be in the same ball park as Doull.

Here Here !

 

[zeeCFC]

Here Here !

what would you know!

 

[Blue and Silver]

Can we discuss Mick and Mick alone in this thread?

Mick's ego will feel lonely if we start discussing who was the best defender.

Cheers.

But Mick is the best defender...

Right?

 

[Tazwegian]

look by your own admission you didnt see much of silvagni, so your opinion on this cant really be valid in this argument. Langford is also overlooked in these discussions

I wasn't talking about Silvagni just now though, only about my esteem for Jako at his peak. Silvagni would be the first choice for FB, but I think Jako would make a strong case for CHB. McKenna would find a sport in my HBF as well. Of course, I haven't lived long enough to make any real valid argument about team of the century, none of us have really, but I'd be surprised if there were too many players better at that CHB position than Jakovich.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

I wasn't talking about Silvagni just now though, only about my esteem for Jako at his peak. Silvagni would be the first choice for FB, but I think Jako would make a strong case for CHB. McKenna would find a sport in my HBF as well. Of course, I haven't lived long enough to make any real valid argument about team of the century, none of us have really, but I'd be surprised if there were too many players better at that CHB position than Jakovich.

Would love to comment but modesty prevails

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I'm hoping MM brings in Alan Jackovich as goal celebration coach.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[BM123]

Certainly has been a thorough and exhaustive post-season review hasn't it??

We've made one phone call, and tadda, MM is here to save us.

Just sayin'.

Sacked a bunch of people too

 

[Del80659]

congrats on getting Malthouse as your coach. i hope you see success - immediately! go blue baggers

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Hahaha love the irony.

All the anti-sack Ratten brigade are ripping on the new coach before he has even fully taken the reigns.

Sound familiar?

Hahaha wow.

He has not taken the reigns at all yet. Nothing announced. As of right this second, he is an outsider.

Not really the same thing as the current coach, one that has shown passion for the club, being ripped on whilst in the job.

Once he is in place, let's see how many pro-Ratts people are saying MM is a dud, that he should piss off etc. That would be a better irony call ... yes?

Having said that, MM is here to replace a coach who had 3 years of finals and a bad injury year in his last year. MM has to improve on that quickly or some reasoned discussions may start occurring.

 

[Silvagnis]

So Mick will start work on November 1 after the players return from their break. Probably another white lie with trade week ending on the 26th of October. You can't have a new coach come in that late without the club getting their input into trades and delistings.

October 1 - Commencement of Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency period.

October 5, 2pm - Nomination of Father-Son Eligible Players and Academy Bidding Players.

October 8, 10am - Father Son Eligible Players and Academy Players Bid Meeting.

October 8 - Commencement of Trade Period.

October 19, 2pm - Deadline for GWS Giants to pre-list balance of any uncontracted players under List Establishment rules.

October 19, 5pm - Close to Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

October 23, 5pm - Trade Incentive Rule (17 year-olds). Deadline for trading.

October 26, 2pm - End of Trade Period.

October 26, 2.10pm - Trade Incentive (17 year-olds) Selection.

October 31, 2pm - List Lodgement One.

November 1 - Commencement to Delisted Player Free Agency Period.

November 13, 2pm - End to Delisted Player Free Agency Period.

November 13, 2pm - Out of Contract Listed Player Draft Nomination deadline, New Player Draft Nomination deadline.

November 13, 2pm - Deadline for Nomination of any use of 2012 GWS Giants Compensation Selections.

November 15, 2pm - List Lodgement Two.

November 16, 2pm - Delisted Player Draft Nomination deadline, Non-Retained Rookies Draft Nomination deadline, Nominated of Queensland Zone Priority Selections and Nomination of NSW/ACT Zone Priority Selections.

November 22 - NAB AFL Draft, Gold Coast Convention Centre.

November 23 - Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period commences.

November 28, 2pm - Out of Contract Listed Players Nomination deadline, International Players Nomination deadline, Players Not Registered / Played Three Years deadline, NSW Scholarship and International Scholarship Players deadline.

November 28, 5pm - Second Delisted Player Free Agency Period ends.

November 29, 2pm - List Lodgement Three.