Opinion Mick Malthouse

What is the next move on Mick?

  • Sack him immediately; replacement coach to see out the year.

    Votes: 192 48.9%
  • Let him coach out the year then show him the door.

    Votes: 70 17.8%
  • Sign him now to give coaches and players some direction.

    Votes: 81 20.6%
  • Not sure yet... still too angry to think clearly.

    Votes: 50 12.7%

  • Total voters
    393
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He should have not gone down at 3/4 time and told all staff not to go down. Then after the game when the press ask him about it he says "**** those shit sippers, if they dont want to listen then **** em"
I keep hearing they are not listening, but has anybody at the club articulated what instructions they are not listening to?

I blame the player for lack of effort but I blame the coach if the players literally have no idea what to do.
 

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it's gone past needing a new coach to craft a successful team... it's to save the club itself. without an injection of hope, the supporters will continue to stay away from the games. less $'s at the gate and membership time next year.
because it's so early in the year, i'd split the remaining time into 2 or 3 caretaker coaches to reboot (our potential fortunes) throughout the year.
 

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it's gone past needing a new coach to craft a successful team... it's to save the club itself. without an injection of hope, the supporters will continue to stay away from the games. less $'s at the gate and membership time next year.
because it's so early in the year, i'd split the remaining time into 2 or 3 caretaker coaches to reboot (our potential fortunes) throughout the year.
But likely us fans will be just as critical as subconsciously we want a quick fix.
 

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But likely us fans will be just as critical as subconsciously we want a quick fix.
We had an official attendance of just over 16,000 to today's home game.

Factor in the shitty stadium deal we have and we would be lucky to not have lost money by playing today.

MM and his coaching panel have totally destroyed any enthusiasm us Carlton supporters have been hanging on to.

Did you see today the amount of times we just kicked backwards and sideways without having any idea of how to move the ball forward. Even worse, when we do eventually decide to kick forward, we kick it straight to opposition players and it come back even faster than we kicked it.
MM has to go, otherwise this club will officially fold, we cannot continue to lose attendance and supporters just to keep an old fart in a high pying job.
 

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it's gone past needing a new coach to craft a successful team... it's to save the club itself. without an injection of hope, the supporters will continue to stay away from the games. less $'s at the gate and membership time next year.
because it's so early in the year, i'd split the remaining time into 2 or 3 caretaker coaches to reboot (our potential fortunes) throughout the year.
Exactly my thought process at the moment. An injection of hope.

They don't want to do anything drastic because of the way they stuffed up the Ratten sacking but the difference is the supporter base was divided on that sacking, maybe even more pro-Ratten and based on one season it seemed unnecessary.

As you point out, people have had enough and are turning off the club. This is dire.
 

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It is not simply all Mick Malthouse's fault.

The entire club has played its role in destroying any passion for the club.

All of them are to blame.
The easiest way to instil hope into the supporter base so that they don't leave in droves, is to sack the coach and bring in someone, anyone that can inspire the players to at least put in a better on field performance.

We need someone different at the helm and that person has to give the players carte blanche to be as attacking as they like.

If we are going to lose by so much, we might as well lose by playing attacking football rather than being so defensive, especially since trying to be so defensive has made us leak more inside 50s and goals than any attacking game plan could.
 

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We need someone different at the helm and that person has to give the players carte blanche to be as attacking as they like.

If we are going to lose by so much, we might as well lose by playing attacking football rather than being so defensive, especially since trying to be so defensive has made us leak more inside 50s and goals than any attacking game plan could.
Dont get me wrong we do need to play with free reign in the short term but long term it doesnt work. Thats what we had with Ratten for all those years. Down hill skiers, flat track bullies and one way runners was the critism back then.

Although i did enjoy watching us when we were on thats for sure.
 
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No coach in the world can get this mob going - players have either no heart or no ability (apart from judd)

Murph and gibbs tried today but we are crap.

No team with Tutt, ellard, armfield and curnow running around in it is winning many games no matter who's coaching it's irrelevant.

Malthouse, ratten, pagan, game plans this and that doesn't mean much on the field. GWS beat us easily today because they had players in their team who were faster, stronger and most importantly more skilful than ours and no coach would have got a different result.

Until we chop suburban grade footballers off our list we are where we are
 

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Isnt that what we had with Ratten for all those years. Down hill skiers, flat track bullies and one way runners was the critism back then. Although i did enjoy watching us when we were on thats for sure.
Yep its what we had under Ratten, but if its a choice between that exciting but unaccountable football under Ratten, and the boring and unaccountable football under MM, I would go back to the Ratten plan in a heartbeat.

Its bad enough screaming at the players to run back to defend like under Ratten, but its even worse that we are screaming at the players to run back and defend as well as run forward under MM.
 

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Can someone please explain his game plan please?
Pretty simple. In my head, he shows them clips like this or this and then tells them:

Whatever pride you had in the jumper? Get rid of it.
Have a sense of urgency to attack? Not on my watch.
Want to play with some flair? Don't even think about it.

Am I wearing rose-tinted glasses? Most likely, but it still absolutely shits me seeing people bag out players on our list when they've been placed in a position to fail. Direct, handball-based and fast footy hid our footskill deficiencies in the past. Now they're not AFL standard because they've been told to play a slow, plodding, kick and hope game style that accentuates their flaws? It isn't even the skill level I'm worried about. It's the lack of fight and confidence in this group. Having all the skill in the world isn't going to help you when you don't even look like you have the will to live out there.
 
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