Mick Martyn.

[Tony Lynn 15]

Totally disagree TL.

Actually what Thy said.

Fair enough Aph.....I will ensure it does not go beyond this one.

 

[ctacp]

Any of the BF vets here remember Spornstar? The Old Dark Navy's? HBF?

Had a kind of hunchback didn't he ? Didn't mind him.

 

[ctacp]

I see it slightly different.

I reckon we went through a whole decade and maybe more of pure horror and defeatism. We made poor decisions at board level, got the draft penalties and failed to embrace the changing times. Within this we as supporters clung to any young player coming through and just hoped like hell we could find some ray of light.

There were plenty of them but the one that sticks out for me was Setanta O'hAilpin. This was a bloke who did not even play Gaelic, he was a Hurler from memory and we lauded him like a number 1 draft pick because he was the only great hope we had but in reality he was just a young Irish guy who was a fantastic athlete. So much pressure was put on guys that were mid level players at best.

Justin Davies was another in my opinion, good ordinary footballer who came at a time when we all just wanted to see some new superstar come through in the Navy Blue. I often wonder sometimes did this type of pressure cause some of the player development issues we had or am I reading too much into it?

Reckon the coaching over the years has ruined many a young footballers career.

 

[Jabba73]

I see it slightly different.

I reckon we went through a whole decade and maybe more of pure horror and defeatism. We made poor decisions at board level, got the draft penalties and failed to embrace the changing times. Within this we as supporters clung to any young player coming through and just hoped like hell we could find some ray of light.

There were plenty of them but the one that sticks out for me was Setanta O'hAilpin. This was a bloke who did not even play Gaelic, he was a Hurler from memory and we lauded him like a number 1 draft pick because he was the only great hope we had but in reality he was just a young Irish guy who was a fantastic athlete. So much pressure was put on guys that were mid level players at best.

Justin Davies was another in my opinion, good ordinary footballer who came at a time when we all just wanted to see some new superstar come through in the Navy Blue. I often wonder sometimes did this type of pressure cause some of the player development issues we had or am I reading too much into it?

Used to love watching Setanta play, had passion and tried hard. Remember him beating Cloke at the MCG one day, then Cloke
tried to rough him up a bit, big mistake.

My wife also liked Setanta, she wouldn't be able to tell you what number he wore or what position he played, could pick him out of a line up from 50 paces though. Both of us were sad when he left the club.

 

[RAPPA]

Used to love watching Setanta play, had passion and tried hard. Remember him beating Cloke at the MCG one day, then Cloke
tried to rough him up a bit, big mistake.

My wife also liked Setanta, she wouldn't be able to tell you what number he wore or what position he played, could pick him out of a line up from 50 paces though. Both of us were sad when he left the club.

KO'ed a Cloke, was passionate whenever he kicked a goal and still kicked straighter than Levi. More than serviceable.

 

[LanceRomance]

Congratulations on getting the thread to over 100 posts... didnt think you would get there tbh

 

[Tony Lynn 15]

Congratulations on getting the thread to over 100 posts... didnt think you would get there tbh

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

The blame for Justin Davies' failure to fulfil his potential lies with Justin Davies.

Pfft, a little hard to produce your best when the coach continuously lambasts you in front of the playing group and tells you to pi55 off back to the country. Pagan's style of coaching by intimidation was long past it's use by date.

 

[mediumsizered]

Pfft, a little hard to produce your best when the coach continuously lambasts you in front of the playing group and tells you to pi55 off back to the country. Pagan's style of coaching by intimidation was long past it's use by date.

Justin Davies downfall had nothing to do with the football side of things. Justin Davies got involved in stuff that saw him on extremely slippery slide to mediocrity & it had nothing to do with Pagan or any other coach, official etc or football for that matter.

 

[Jabba73]

Was Davies the player that collapsed after getting hit in the chest with a ball at training?

 

[thylacine60]

no evidence a carlton player has ever been hit on the chest by a football at training

 

[Dramoth]

Pretty sure we got him to 300 games.

The only reason we picked him up was so that Mick could get to 300 games... thanks to his old mate and coach Denis.

 

[Dramoth]

Try naming a better number 10 for Carlton??

Gags

 

[ferrisb]

Congratulations on getting the thread to over 100 posts... didnt think you would get there tbh

Oh no, this means TL now has the rights to recruit the next generation of these threads.

Should have left this thread stranded, Brad Fisher style.

 

[LanceRomance]

Oh no, this means TL now has the rights to recruit the next generation of these threads.

Should have left this thread stranded, Brad Fisher style.

yep... and proliferating/profiteroling new threads like old mate 1981

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

Justin Davies downfall had nothing to do with the football side of things. Justin Davies got involved in stuff that saw him on extremely slippery slide to mediocrity & it had nothing to do with Pagan or any other coach, official etc or football for that matter.

Pagan took away his love and will to play football, whatever distractions got him after that are down to him not loving his football anymore. Kid just wanted to play.

 

[Wiggo4PM]

I kinda dont remember him as I was always drinking at the games to the beatings to remember that much - but I do remember Digby standing behind a point post trying to hide.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

no evidence a carlton player has ever been hit on the chest by a football at training

Maybe at present but Davies would of had Stevens and Houlihan training with him at that time.

Was never a fan of Stevens as a footballer and certainly not a fan of his post career exploits but both he and Houlihan could really hit someone up when given time and space.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Justin Davies downfall had nothing to do with the football side of things. Justin Davies got involved in stuff that saw him on extremely slippery slide to mediocrity & it had nothing to do with Pagan or any other coach, official etc or football for that matter.

Anything you can elaborate on MSR ??

 

[KohPhi]

no evidence a carlton player has ever been hit on the chest by a football at training

 

[KohPhi]

Justin Davies downfall had nothing to do with the football side of things. Justin Davies got involved in stuff that saw him on extremely slippery slide to mediocrity & it had nothing to do with Pagan or any other coach, official etc or football for that matter.

Anything you can elaborate on MSR ??

Apparently his preference to Razz over the Sunny Boy and Glug had him offside with his teammates from the start..

 

[MightyMighties]

For me he was part of the golden era of Mick's at Carlton...Martyn, McGuane and Mansfield!

Closely followed by another golden MM era - Mick Malthouse

 

[Quazza]

no evidence a carlton player has ever been hit on the chest by a football at training

hahahaha

classic Thy

 

[Tony Lynn 15]

Closely followed by another golden MM era - Mick Malthouse

I am clearly onto something here, never thought I would say that but....

 

[Blue Heart]

no evidence a carlton player has ever been hit on the chest by a football at training

or even in a game for that matter !