Mick quits

[PieBeast]

Don't blame him, he said the role involved no coaching duties and no match day duties. Can't imagine him being at a club and and being denied those things. Would be a dream jobs for most being paid a shipload to do whatever at a football club. But I can't see it being fulfilling for Malthouse.

He also said that he wants to give Bucks autonomy and space, which makes his moaning about the role being not big enough hypocritical.

If he wasn't selfish and up himself and genuinely cared about the Club he would have stayed for at least a year.

 

[HFF]

Nothing short of a massive thank you to MM for what he has achieved for us.

Good luck to him with whatever he has planned. We must now reload for another crack at it in 2012.

 

[Alexander323bc]

Agree. The actual DoC position, I don't think, is even clearly clarified on what it's role actually is. I think it's either a mentor for the actual coach itself (Mark Thompson at the Dons) or someone who oversees the whole club as to how it's moving forward (I have absolutely no idea where I thought of that, I may have read it somewhere). And the latter one really only fitted Malthouse because he had been at the club for 11 years.

Anyways if Eade does become the mentor for Bucks, I guess it's all up to Bucks to make that call and he also has to assess Eades personality and see if they get along or not.


Bit harsh, Mick feels like that the role or himself can not offer anything to the club. Why waste the club's time and energy just being there? When else would he announce it? I doubt he's going to be heading back to the Westpac centre anymore, apart from a final trip to say goodbye to everyone. Might as well get it done as soon as possible and move on.


It's nothing like Mark Thompson. Mark Thompson just got up and left without any notice at all. I'm sure Mick has been saying to the club internally that he wasn't sure and gave them at least a 6 week notice.

You missed the point son. It was more to do with not having his head on the games at hand, not how he went about resigning!

 

[The Coach]

back the f*** off ppl. He wasn't given anything to do. Would Buckley have him in the coaches box - no. At training - no. At the selection table - no. WHat the F was there left to do? Not leaving him anything meaningful to do was NOT in the spirit of this agreement. And there's more to it too, but that's all I'll say now.

(except for last sentence)

Agree. The actual DoC position, I don't think, is even clearly clarified on what it's role actually is. I think it's either a mentor for the actual coach itself (Mark Thompson at the Dons) or someone who oversees the whole club as to how it's moving forward (I have absolutely no idea where I thought of that, I may have read it somewhere). And the latter one really only fitted Malthouse because he had been at the club for 11 years.

Anyways if Eade does become the mentor for Bucks, I guess it's all up to Bucks to make that call and he also has to assess Eades personality and see if they get along or not.


Bit harsh, Mick feels like that the role or himself can not offer anything to the club. Why waste the club's time and energy just being there? When else would he announce it? I doubt he's going to be heading back to the Westpac centre anymore, apart from a final trip to say goodbye to everyone. Might as well get it done as soon as possible and move on.


It's nothing like Mark Thompson. Mark Thompson just got up and left without any notice at all. I'm sure Mick has been saying to the club internally that he wasn't sure and gave them at least a 6 week notice.

Spot on

He also said that he wants to give Bucks autonomy and space, which makes his moaning about the role being not big enough hypocritical.

If he wasn't selfish and up himself and genuinely cared about the Club he would have stayed for at least a year.

AND DONE WHAT

You missed the point son. It was more to do with not having his head on the games at hand, not how he went about resigning!

How do you know his head was not on the game - didn't you/he manufacture a win agst Hawthorn a week ago

 

[Go_Brad_Dick]

he's been a selfish egomaniac all year, very unprofessional how he played out the whole thing in the media, all he had to do was keep his mouth shut and announce his intentions end of the year.. but he did a song and dance for the media, undermined the stability and professionalism of the club, and was a stubborn prick and ultimately all that was for nothing he left anyway.
its become pretty obvious over the years that the best clubs are internally sound and all this crap from him was unsettling to the club, the same way that the bomber/ablett thing was to Geelong last year.
Cost us the flag if you ask me..
good riddance mick you lost the plot and you should be ashamed of your actions this year.

 

[sr36]

he's been a selfish egomaniac all year, very unprofessional how he played out the whole thing in the media, all he had to do was keep his mouth shut and announce his intentions end of the year.. but he did a song and dance for the media, undermined the stability and professionalism of the club, and was a stubborn prick and ultimately all that was for nothing he left anyway.
its become pretty obvious over the years that the best clubs are internally sound and all this crap from him was unsettling to the club, the same way that the bomber/ablett thing was to Geelong last year.
Cost us the flag if you ask me..
good riddance mick you lost the plot and you should be ashamed of your actions this year.

Scully shows that not talking to the media doesn't stop the circus.

 

[regpies]

There is a story on HS saying Mick wasn't happy that the role wasn't part of the football department and he was left out of planning for next year when it came to assistant coaches and players.

I think they knew he wasn't going to do the role so didn't want him to know our plans for next year. When Eade does it you would have to think he will be involved with match committee and in the box on game day.

Haven't liked the way he has acted like he owned the coaching role, no one has a mortgage on a position in any club or workplace. In the media he was putting himself ahead of the club, in the end it didn't cost us a premiership, the injuries did.

 

[PieBeast]

There is a story on HS saying Mick wasn't happy that the role wasn't part of the football department and he was left out of planning for next year when it came to assistant coaches and players.

I think they knew he wasn't going to do the role so didn't want him to know our plans for next year. When Eade does it you would have to think he will be involved with match committee and in the box on game day.

Haven't liked the way he has acted like he owned the coaching role, no one has a mortgage on a position in any club or workplace. In the media he was putting himself ahead of the club, in the end it didn't cost us a premiership, the injuries did.

Maybe.... it has been revealed he made up his mind 6 weeks ago, approximately the time our form went downhill.....

Agree with the rest.

 

[JonoNash]

The season went downhill the instant Mick went on TFS.

He knew at that point, that he had no intention of seeing his contract through. He used the media to create a victim mentality for him at the expense of the club, who rewarded him with a new contract when many wouldn't.

I love Mick but his own ego cost us the flag this season. He should have followed the Nathan Buckley school of commenting on the issue, whenever Buckley was asked of 2012, he said his sole focus is 2011, nothing more, nothing less.

The way he conducted the interview on TFS opened the door and the media tore it off it's hinges. Mick knew this would happen & put his ego ahead of the club.

 

[GeeUUess]

WHen you treat a man like that you deserve him to leave. Shocking treatment of who would have been a club legend only for you dogs to get rid of him.

 

[loki04]

WHen you treat a man like that you deserve him to leave. Shocking treatment of who would have been a club legend only for you dogs to get rid of him.

Treat him like what ?

you mean extending his contract to an unprecedented 11th season without a flag?

or giving him the best facilities and support staff in the AFL for 12 seasons?

or being the highest paid coach for 12 years for 1 flag?

At the end of 09 Mick was lucky to get an extension, it panned out well in 2010 and credit to him but he has his faults especially concerning match day tactics and player selection.

Mick was good for the club for the most part and I thank him for his hand in helping us become a professional outfit but it's the correct time for change.

 

[Magpies B2B]

I wish Mick all the best. Sad to see him go but, he helped deliver Collingwood a premiership last year and hope that he does whatever makes him happy. I hope though that he goes down media street rather than being involved at another club.

 

[bourbons]

lol, are you blokes for real?

For everyone bagging mick, saying he's cost you by being selfish/mind not on the job/unfocussed - that may be partly true, but if you want to blame someone for it how about blaming Ed for just not being able to cope with the thought of his precious Nathan being involved with another club besides collingwood? Ridiculous motivation for brokering the deal he did and remians so.

back the f*** off ppl. He wasn't given anything to do. Would Buckley have him in the coaches box - no. At training - no. At the selection table - no. WHat the F was there left to do? Not leaving him anything meaningful to do was NOT in the spirit of this agreement. And there's more to it too, but that's all I'll say now.

Spot on, well said.

 

[Optimax]

back the f*** off ppl. He wasn't given anything to do. Would Buckley have him in the coaches box - no. At training - no. At the selection table - no. WHat the F was there left to do? Not leaving him anything meaningful to do was NOT in the spirit of this agreement. And there's more to it too, but that's all I'll say now.

Yet buckley gives all these things to Eade, with Pert backing him up

No wonder there was a cold war in the box, you offer a club premiership coach peanuts and some hack elsewhere grade A beef. I would leave too

 

[Mile High Tiger]

lol, are you blokes for real?

For everyone bagging mick, saying he's cost you by being selfish/mind not on the job/unfocussed - that may be partly true, but if you want to blame someone for it how about blaming Ed for just not being able to cope with the thought of his precious Nathan being involved with another club besides collingwood? Ridiculous motivation for brokering the deal he did and remians so.



Spot on, well said.

Agreed. This situation's nothing like Bomber Thompson, who left under a cloud because he wanted to go back to his old club

IMO Mick's a coaching God and this 'deal' is one of the stupidest I've ever seen regarding coaching in footy, for the stupidest of motivations. The media was asking the questions when it was first raised in 2009, and it should have been knocked on the head back then. Of course it would never work how Eddie dreamed up. He should stick to marketing - that's all he's good at.

To those 'supporters' now sticking the knives in, you never deserved the success he brought you. Look at the stats - GFs in 33% of seasons coached!! You do realise that there's 16 other teams with the same goal?

I wish him well - a true football man, who's been back-doored by a true showman.

 

[daics_35]

Micks been great for us but I am happy with Bucks as new coach, he will make a great coach. Unlike Voss and Hird he has actually spent sometime as an assistant coach and will be ready for 2012.

 

[Scodog10]

To those 'supporters' now sticking the knives in, you never deserved the success he brought you. Look at the stats - GFs in 33% of seasons coached!! You do realise that there's 16 other teams with the same goal?

I wish him well - a true football man, who's been back-doored by a true showman.

That's bullshit mate don't come onto our board 2 days after a GF loss and say that some on here as supporters never deserved the success of 1 flag. It was won by everyone at the club not just MM as the coach. We've had the highest spending football department of any club over the past decade which has resulted in just the one salute.

We've been through more pain than you over an extended period of 50 years (GF losses hurt far more than continued periods of ineptitude) and to say that some here don't have a right to state their mind is crap!

I'm annoyed at the fact that MM is now gone because he was great for our club and a decnt part of me wanted him in charge next year, but unfortunately he leaves with a record of 1 win from 5 GF's which to put it bluntly is poor. There's no way club's like Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn and Carlton would accept such a poor record in GF's so be mindful of sinking the boots in when 99% of us are still down in the doldrums.

Even though I don't share the opinion's of those knifing MM this is still the Collingwood board and on behalf of those supporters expressing those sentiments, piss off!!!

 

[PieBeast]

Agreed. This situation's nothing like Bomber Thompson, who left under a cloud because he wanted to go back to his old club

IMO Mick's a coaching God and this 'deal' is one of the stupidest I've ever seen regarding coaching in footy, for the stupidest of motivations. The media was asking the questions when it was first raised in 2009, and it should have been knocked on the head back then. Of course it would never work how Eddie dreamed up. He should stick to marketing - that's all he's good at.

To those 'supporters' now sticking the knives in, you never deserved the success he brought you. Look at the stats - GFs in 33% of seasons coached!! You do realise that there's 16 other teams with the same goal?

I wish him well - a true football man, who's been back-doored by a true showman.

You follow a club that epitomises failure, your comments are worth jack shit.

 

[Mile High Tiger]

You follow a club that epitomises failure, your comments are worth jack shit.

So if I barracked for Carlton or Essendon, my comments would be valid?

Just a nonsense response.

 

[Mile High Tiger]

That's bullshit mate don't come onto our board 2 days after a GF loss and say that some on here as supporters never deserved the success of 1 flag. It was won by everyone at the club not just MM as the coach. We've had the highest spending football department of any club over the past decade which has resulted in just the one salute.

We've been through more pain than you over an extended period of 50 years (GF losses hurt far more than continued periods of ineptitude) and to say that some here don't have a right to state their mind is crap!

I'm annoyed at the fact that MM is now gone because he was great for our club and a decnt part of me wanted him in charge next year, but unfortunately he leaves with a record of 1 win from 5 GF's which to put it bluntly is poor. There's no way club's like Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn and Carlton would accept such a poor record in GF's so be mindful of sinking the boots in when 99% of us are still down in the doldrums.

Even though I don't share the opinion's of those knifing MM this is still the Collingwood board and on behalf of those supporters expressing those sentiments, piss off!!!

If you've actually lived through the hard years since 1958 you have my respect. For the record I've endured GF losses (only 2, granted) and 30 seasons of incompetence.

I'm only sinking the boots into the minority who's attitude to a great man makes me sick, and I didn't for a second say that they don't have a right to speak their mind.

I haven't mentioned the loss on the weekend which was a killer for any true supporter, or been smart about it.

 

[Swooop]

Agreed. This situation's nothing like Bomber Thompson, who left under a cloud because he wanted to go back to his old club

IMO Mick's a coaching God and this 'deal' is one of the stupidest I've ever seen regarding coaching in footy, for the stupidest of motivations. The media was asking the questions when it was first raised in 2009, and it should have been knocked on the head back then. Of course it would never work how Eddie dreamed up. He should stick to marketing - that's all he's good at.

To those 'supporters' now sticking the knives in, you never deserved the success he brought you. Look at the stats - GFs in 33% of seasons coached!! You do realise that there's 16 other teams with the same goal?

I wish him well - a true football man, who's been back-doored by a true showman.

Mate, I also think you're speaking rubbish here.

Ed is probably the biggest single influence that turned this club around and to say he's only good at marketing and backdoored MM is not only incredibly disrespectful but wrong, IMO.

 

[Footy 4 Fox]

mick malthouse has lived by this saying:
"when someone says they want to quit/retire you should never talk him out of it because they are mentally already gone from your club just by saying it" i can vividly remember he used this line when Paul Medhurst announced his somewhat of a surprise retirement in 2010.

that is why i am surprised he himself quit but stayed till the end of the year....maybe he tried to leave early, what do we know?

i believe it was definitely a distraction and i believe that for the last 6 weeks he did, whether knowingly or not, coach different. not better or worse, just different. if anything specifically he was less reactive when other sides were getting on top in some areas.

who knows what would have happened if he didn't coach the year out? i guess it doesn't matter now. but part of me thinks that maybe it would've been better if he left as soon as he made his mind up regardless of the picnic the media would have had.

i know leaving a club while it's sitting top of the table is outrageous but in our groundbreaking sucession planning it has merit to at least have given it a thought.

i still have the utmost respect for Mick and what he has done for my/our football team and i respect his decision.

 

[Zahki]

To those 'supporters' now sticking the knives in, you never deserved the success he brought you. Look at the stats - GFs in 33% of seasons coached!! You do realise that there's 16 other teams with the same goal?

Collingwood is not Richmond. Making a Grand Final is not good enough, close enough is not good enough and never has been. This club has been in 43 Grand Finals, 26 of them losses. Making a Grand Final then losing it is nothing, Mick has had full control of the entire football department for 12 years, he cops the blame for the ups and downs. He deserves full credit for our success in 2010 but he also deserves to cop the blame for 2002/2003 and 2011.

 

[lgarth80]

No wonder there was a cold war in the box, you offer a club premiership coach peanuts and some hack elsewhere grade A beef. I would leave too

Opti, we can play both sides of the story.

A grade beef, was that Buckley's role this year? Or after putting his stamp on the press, was he put out to pasture?

I can understand that Buckley might not have been happy with being the opposition coach, rather than midfield or otherwise. Particularly when Mick clearly pointed out his deficiencies to all and sundry through countless media interviews, saying that Neeld was clearly his 2IC and other cutting comments.

Only in a few has he said the truth, that the Pies are in good hands, that Buckley has a good football brain etc.

Mick's treatment of Neeld and Watters as compared with Buckley from the outside looks completely different. Neeld he couldn't have been in higher praise of, similarly Watters, and even Brad Scott in hindsight. Buckley always seemed to be getting the 'short back and sides'. I'm not sure if that was being 'cruel to be kind'. I'm hoping it was.

I'm sure there was some resentment in the ranks, and for the club to pull together, for both of them to pull their heads in a little and get the team up to a GF despite overwhelming odds was a success.

I think Buckley will take to the job like a duck to water, in terms of mentoring the young players, enjoying their company, getting on the park as a coach and having wrestles and bench press comps. He is a great media operator, and unlike Mick will be initially friendly if guarded around them.

He has a great analytical brain and is a deeper thinker than most would give credit for.

And sure, as we all know, he has deficiencies, but with a few older mentors (I'm sure Mick will be receiving a call or two from time to time unless otherwise engaged) he will learn from his mistakes as all people do.

How it goes from here, who knows? As a Collingwood fan first and foremost I'm backing the current administration, and saying to Mick, "Thanks for the memories, it's been a great time".

 

[Mile High Tiger]

Collingwood is not Richmond. Making a Grand Final is not good enough, close enough is not good enough and never has been. This club has been in 43 Grand Finals, 26 of them losses. Making a Grand Final then losing it is nothing, Mick has had full control of the entire football department for 12 years, he cops the blame for the ups and downs. He deserves full credit for our success in 2010 but he also deserves to cop the blame for 2002/2003 and 2011.

I'm not banging the Richmond drum and haven't for decades.

Do you ever consider that Mick nearly won you a flag in '02 against a superteam built on draft concessions and a completely unfair salary cap? If the playing field was level, who knows what would have happened in both those GFs against Brisbane?

My point being is that Mick is a very good and proven coach who's copping some very unfair criticism on this forum.

Anyway, I'll piss off now as advised earlier.