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Scott Jones 205 cms 110 kg ruck/forward
Stuff footy. He can be the club bouncer.
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Scott Jones 205 cms 110 kg ruck/forward
That'll sort Teffy out...
Stuff footy. He can be the club bouncer.
Simpkin too....more than likely would have gone earlier if not for injury!Phillips and Powell both had serious injury concerns tho. Should we have not drafted them?
I get what you are saying but for every Garner we have a Taz who looked like a bust and became a club legend.
Pretty sure his leg issues started when he tore his hammy tendon down at Kardinia Park one preseason long ago. Never been the same since..A dislocated shoulder has little to do with hamstring issues tho. What happened when he was an underager? Were they leg injuries?
Think Jordan RidleyRaak, what the Faak, at 192cm listed as a key defender. His stats in 3 games are those of a big body midfielder, with 33, 18, and 31 touches, avg 6 marks and 2 tackles a game. Anyone seen him play and or what's behind those numbers??? Is he just taking all the kick ins??? Or could he potentially play other roles?
While you are here, any thoughts on why Kietel hasn’t been picked up at afl level?Think Jordan Ridley
From what I’ve seen lately a bit too slow and not athletic enough overall.While you are here, any thoughts on why Kietel hasn’t been picked up at afl level?
Think Jordan Ridley
Thanks.From what I’ve seen lately a bit too slow and not athletic enough overall.
Think Jordan Ridley
Is he available to everyone, or still tied up in the NGA?
Stuff footy. He can be the club bouncer.
Bolded midfielder-cum-flanker for the mods.
Tyler Keitel (East Perth)
Position: Key forward/defender
Height: 194 cm
Weight: 86 kg
Club: East Perth
Strengths: Contested marking, consistency, endurance, agility, mobility, versatility
Areas for improvement: Defensive development, hasn’t played senior football
Player comparison: Mitch Brown (Geelong)
Another likely type who has thrown his name up off the back of a successful national carnival, Tyler Keitel has been immersed in first round discussions for a few months now. Realistically however, may fall through early in the second round depending on movement higher up the board.
A well-documented growth spurt over the past 24 months has helped Keitel’s development as a key position player rather than a midfielder-cum-flanker. That has seen him taste action in a variety of roles including defence and even in the ruck.
Keitel was impressive last year as a bottom-age prospect for WA at the National Championships. Then a ruckman who spent time up forward, he showed glimpses of what he had to offer, with a great turn of foot, deceptive speed and a natural instinct to find the ball and launch himself in the air and over packs to take contested marks.
During 2013, Keitel spent his time predominantly forward while offering rotations through the ruck for East Perth, bagging 39 goals that season from his 18 Colts games, including an average of 15.8 disposals and 5.2 marks per game.
Fast-forward to 2014, and Keitel is still playing Colts football and tracking at an average of two goals and five marks per game, off 10 games to date this season.
Although he’s averaging slightly less disposals this year, with just 12.2 per game, his development into a swingman off the back of the National Championships has see him gravitate to defence, in which his ability to spoil and play a close checking role has been frequently commended.
Since WA teammate Dylan Winton went down with an ankle injury in the first game of the Nationals, it paved the way for Keitel to try his hand in a defence, a position he had previously only once played. He took to it like a duck to water, and the plaudits came thick and fast for the way he adapted to the role without fuss.
In terms of his abilities as a key tall, his recovery is fantastic. If he goes to ground he bounces straight back up, and has a willingness to play high half forward, which is a natural instinct that has stemmed from when he was a midfielder. His leading patterns are sound, he has the endurance to push hard for a lead high up the ground, and run back hard to force himself into a dangerous position, which often tires out his direct opponent.
He is mobile and athletic, and has a terrific leap at the ball. With those traits alone, he is highly regarded as a player who could gravitate into a damaging swingman at the next level. In defence, he is aggressive and physical, he spoils well and doesn’t mind body-on-body scraps in a contest, which he demonstrated when he played on both Patrick McCartin and Darcy Moore.
Keitel has a lot of swagger and possesses a certain cockiness and arrogance in small doses that you want out of your key forward or defender. He has confidence and is quite comfortable holding down his own but in particular he strikes me as your second best key forward or defender, not the number one which is why he falls down the order fractionally.
The other pleasing aspect is Keitel remains in the game across four quarters. Because of that endurance and agility and of course his versatility to play up the ground, he finds the ball with ease whether down back or deep forward.
In terms of areas for further development, a club will most certainly develop him as a defender first given he has shown a natural ability to play a close checking role, whilst he can kick multiple scores up forward. Particularly as a defender he could back himself more which is something that will come with further development in that position. At this stage, his focus is on killing the ball and keeping his opponent quiet, but he showed on a few occasions he could back himself to take a mark and move the ball on quickly.
When it comes to his draft range, a lot depends on where clubs believe his best football will be played and whether or not he is somebody that could feature early, or be a bit more of a development project. A fair assessment is that he’s somewhere in the second round, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go early after a solid championships and consistent form at Colts level over the past 24 months.
What you get with Keitel is an athletic yet bullocking key position player who still thinks he’s a midfielder. His endurance base is better than average for players of his size, and in particular his versatility and marking game are elite. For a team that is looking to bring in key position reinforcements without specifically looking for a number one defender or forward, Keitel is your man.
Don’t think he will go any better in AFL, goal kicking was an issue when younger but has improved, other than that, yeah, just a good VFL/SANFL/WAFL with no next step
Edit:
Also did bad in Beep test, FIGJAM and told everyone just how good he thought he was. Next thing, walked into most hated opposition club (Not that surprised EP wants him drafted to keep WP down the ladder)
Let’s not go down that route, there’s reasons he hasn’t been picked for almost the last 6/7 Drafts
Thanks.
Confirms some of my suspicions about him from other stuff written on him. Would love some kpp/ruck depth in the mid season draft.
It is why I asked about Epds about him. Would still love some KPP depth in the Mid-Season Draft, but definitely not him.Let’s not go down that route, there’s reasons he hasn’t been picked for almost the last 6/7 Drafts
It is why I asked about Epds about him. Would still love some KPP depth in the Mid-Season Draft, but definitely not him.
For every Mihocek there's 5 dozen shitmens.
certainly fills a long term need for the composition of the list, so if Edwards is the best available as well - tick, and tickSam McClure reckons Sandy's Jacob Edwards will go #1 in the midseason draft. He asked Hocking on his thoughts regarding the midseason draft being used to pick up an 18-19 year old.
Story going up tonight.
Podcast:
Steve Hocking – Tuesday April 20
AFL Football Operations Boss Steve Hocking joins Gerard, Sam and Leigh Matthews.player.whooshkaa.com
Sam McClure reckons Sandy's Jacob Edwards will go #1 in the midseason draft. He asked Hocking on his thoughts regarding the midseason draft being used to pick up an 18-19 year old.
Story going up tonight.
Podcast:
Steve Hocking – Tuesday April 20
AFL Football Operations Boss Steve Hocking joins Gerard, Sam and Leigh Matthews.player.whooshkaa.com
McClure's question was an implied concern that a kid still at school would be drafted; Hocking just baubles about the opportunity to get people from outside the system onto a list, no particular commentary about Edwards per seSam McClure reckons Sandy's Jacob Edwards will go #1 in the midseason draft. He asked Hocking on his thoughts regarding the midseason draft being used to pick up an 18-19 year old.
Story going up tonight.
Podcast:
~1-2min and ~16:30
Steve Hocking – Tuesday April 20
AFL Football Operations Boss Steve Hocking joins Gerard, Sam and Leigh Matthews.player.whooshkaa.com
That would be great, can we win two games before then? geebus tanking after five rounds lol