List Mgmt. Mid Season Draft 2025 - Wed 28th May

[katmanblue]

Do what?

Kept them honest

 

[The Return of the Paf]

I see it a little differently there’s a clear lack of potential depth off KP types at both ends on our list (excluding O’Farrell) finally…

We haven’t got a young contested marking KPF, Lemmey isn’t that type of player, with restricted draft picks this year, Walker next year and Tassie coming to the draft in 27 it may be a good opportunity to identify one while we have the option to…

We may also loose McMahon if *** decides to snatch him from our reserves list, the club/reserves need some decent talls developing for the medium/long term, hopefully good enough to cover a player at senior level if needed…

Yes, he's no power athlete, he's just big with some degree of footy smarts and a reasonably good kick for goal. He's still no certainly to make it and if he does, I'm not sure it's as a starting KPF.

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Or harry

Or Kemp is traded……..

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Kept them honest

Yes, I thought that's what you meant. I don't think you can rest on anything in football. I've never understood that, it limits your opportunities. You never know what's going to happen next.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Yes, he's no power athlete, he's just big with some degree of footy smarts and a reasonably good kick for goal. He's still no certainly to make it and if he does, I'm not sure it's as a starting KPF.

Agree…

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I can’t link it here, but the WAFL Facebook page put up a nice highlights clip of Michael Selwood and Archer May’s last round.

Both seem very impressive.

 

[Blue__Balls]

I'd be happy with a good defensive small forward because we could really do with an upgrade on what we have. Someone with a strong body who is physical but has pace, good skills, good kick and still kicks the odd goal.

Problem with our smalls is yes they don't kick goals but they also aren't very physical and when they get it don't finish well.
Someone who uses it well, cracks in hard, tackles, has pace and uses it and can halve contests really well would be good for us.

We would love an elite small goal kicker but until we start moving the ball better they will only go to waste.

Disagree wholeheartedly.

It's the one-paced defensive types who are wasted with our forward 50 entries. They don't get separation, they don't read the ball off a contest, they don't slot goals from tight angles, they don't create goals through chaos. What they do is fill space and sometimes lead at the ball carrier in the hopes of a short pass. They range up and down the ground helping a bit in transition.

What our forward line lacks is the guy who mops up when our shit entries hit the deck. The guy who can pounce on a ground ball, turn a defender inside out and then snap a goal from almost right on the boundary line. The guy who doesn't get overawed by a 35m set shot directly in front, because his whole "thing" is just naturally kicking goals.

We run 4-5 defensive smalls and it shows, because the only time they trouble the scoreboard is when the opposition are shit or half asleep.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Speaking of small forwards...

 

[swuzzlebubble]

What our forward line lacks is the guy who mops up when our shit entries hit the deck

How about someone who can do better entries?

 

[ctwenty1]

How about someone who can do better entries?

 

[Rippa Crippa]

Disagree wholeheartedly.

It's the one-paced defensive types who are wasted with our forward 50 entries. They don't get separation, they don't read the ball off a contest, they don't slot goals from tight angles, they don't create goals through chaos. What they do is fill space and sometimes lead at the ball carrier in the hopes of a short pass. They range up and down the ground helping a bit in transition.

What our forward line lacks is the guy who mops up when our shit entries hit the deck. The guy who can pounce on a ground ball, turn a defender inside out and then snap a goal from almost right on the boundary line. The guy who doesn't get overawed by a 35m set shot directly in front, because his whole "thing" is just naturally kicking goals.

We run 4-5 defensive smalls and it shows, because the only time they trouble the scoreboard is when the opposition are shit or half asleep.

Owies at least kicked goals directly in front. Still miss him.

Need everything in a small forward these days defensive, offensive and crumbing.
Ours are mainly defensive.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Speaking of small forwards...

Based on that vision no thank you. Another dime a dozen defensive small who will average 7 touches a game for us

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Just get the best player (within reason...e.g. not a one-paced inside mid). Feel we stuff around with needs too much and end up with a group of limited players

 

[DangerousD]

Based on that vision no thank you. Another dime a dozen defensive small who will average 7 touches a game for us

Is there too much of an obsession in the MSD with getting ahead of the draft and picking a kid unlucky to be drafted, instead of picking up the late developers, the kids who matured and are now 23-26 have a strong body, have runs on the board and can hit the ground running?

There’s a player from Coburg who’s kicked over 42 goals in his last 16 games after playing predominantly midfield in seasons previous, there’s players like Woodcock who have dominated the VFL for several years now. I see how Mannagh has fit in at Geelong and he sat there for years without interest.

Are we as an industry still missing out on players right in front of our noses?

 

[ctwenty1]

Is there too much of an obsession in the MSD with getting ahead of the draft and picking a kid unlucky to be drafted, instead of picking up the late developers, the kids who matured and are now 23-26 have a strong body, have runs on the board and can hit the ground running?

There’s a player from Coburg who’s kicked over 42 goals in his last 16 games after playing predominantly midfield in seasons previous, there’s players like Woodcock who have dominated the VFL for several years now. I see how Mannagh has fit in at Geelong and he sat there for years without interest.

Are we as an industry still missing out on players right in front of our noses?

possibly, or are these players who dominate ar VFL but cant make it at the AFL level. There are always those sorts of paleyrs

 

[Mondyboy]

Based on that vision no thank you. Another dime a dozen defensive small who will average 7 touches a game for us

My thinking as well. He's a slight upgrade on Frank The Tank.

 

[Kruezing]

Get someone who is fit and hits targets

 

[Aphrodite]

Full list of nominees for the 2025 Mid-Season Rookie Draft

Several familiar faces are among the contenders as the AFL releases the full list of nominees for Wednesday night's draft

www.afl.com.au

 

[katmanblue]

Yes, I thought that's what you meant. I don't think you can rest on anything in football. I've never understood that, it limits your opportunities. You never know what's going to happen next.

That's my point. We never seem to drop stars for poor performance or poor attitude etc.

 

[DangerousD]

possibly, or are these players who dominate ar VFL but cant make it at the AFL level. There are always those sorts of paleyrs

I remember when we picked Gibbons, he’d dominated the VFL for years but was always knocked for his height, he came in and showed he was up to the level and if we were a better side, possibly he would have had more of an impact, the players are out there, they just need a chance, we give years to kids from overseas who’ve never even played the game but are timid when it comes to picking players from the state leagues.

I’ve been wondering if teams in the flag window would be better off picking mature age state level players to add depth to the squad, rather n than targeting youth.

It’s not without some risk of course.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

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Because we are dealing with scrappy draft capital, we need to take what's available.

 

[Pablito]

Being linked to Zach Banch and Lachy Wilson now also.

Wouldn't be surprised if we announce another spot today.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Wouldn't be surprised if we announce another spot today.

Because we're talking to multiple players?

 

[gbatman]

Disagree wholeheartedly.

It's the one-paced defensive types who are wasted with our forward 50 entries. They don't get separation, they don't read the ball off a contest, they don't slot goals from tight angles, they don't create goals through chaos. What they do is fill space and sometimes lead at the ball carrier in the hopes of a short pass. They range up and down the ground helping a bit in transition.

What our forward line lacks is the guy who mops up when our shit entries hit the deck. The guy who can pounce on a ground ball, turn a defender inside out and then snap a goal from almost right on the boundary line. The guy who doesn't get overawed by a 35m set shot directly in front, because his whole "thing" is just naturally kicking goals.

We run 4-5 defensive smalls and it shows, because the only time they trouble the scoreboard is when the opposition are shit or half asleep.

I didn't say one paced, I said quick.

Probalem with our defensive forwards is they don't have the skill to hurt from minimal opportunities and don't have the pace to be elite pressure forwards.

Happy to get an upgrade on what we have.

Natural talented forwards yes, unlikely to be any available.

We can improve by upgrading the defensive forwards.

Probably not going to get that guy you mentioned in the MSD but there's a chance you get the guy I mentioned, maybe.

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

Doggies should be looking extremely closely at Banch. With Cody being out all season thus far. He would be a very nice

addition to their forward line imo.