News Mid-Season Draft

[manicpie]

Let's be brutally honest.

Macrae is gone at years end, as is Johnson IMO.

If it suited our list management potentially couldn't it also be financially beneficial to them this season if one agreed to go on the LTI?

I don't know how your standard AFL contract works but didn't we get in some salary cap strife a number of years back due to a high number of injuries in season which presumably lead to players being entitled to a certain amount of match payments we hadn't expected to pay?

No way, I expect those 2 to share the Norm Smith medal this year

 

[leon123]

Let's be brutally honest.

Macrae is gone at years end, as is Johnson IMO.

If it suited our list management potentially couldn't it also be financially beneficial to them this season if one agreed to go on the LTI?

I don't know how your standard AFL contract works but didn't we get in some salary cap strife a number of years back due to a high number of injuries in season which presumably lead to players being entitled to a certain amount of match payments we hadn't expected to pay?

Ive no idea, but...

Just pay em

 

[sr36]

Let's be brutally honest.

Macrae is gone at years end, as is Johnson IMO.

If it suited our list management potentially couldn't it also be financially beneficial to them this season if one agreed to go on the LTI?

I don't know how your standard AFL contract works but didn't we get in some salary cap strife a number of years back due to a high number of injuries in season which presumably lead to players being entitled to a certain amount of match payments we hadn't expected to pay?

I just don't see how it suits a recruiting strategy to take a lot of picks in the lowest hit recruiting avenue there is.

 

[manicpie]

I just don't see how it suits a recruiting strategy to take a lot of picks in the lowest hit recruiting avenue there is.

We might not even take a pick. If the club doesn't think there's a better option than Dean out there, then we might just go with what we have. I don't see any other real needs list wise for this year

 

[sr36]

We might not even take a pick. If the club doesn't think there's a better option than Dean out there, then we might just go with what we have. I don't see any other real needs list wise for this year

If a talented kid gets to our pick - great, but not that likely. I'd go Tomlinson for 6 months - just because I think we need the cover and with his experience he's the one most likely to learn our defensive system quickly enough.

 

[manicpie]

If a talented kid gets to our pick - great, but not that likely. I'd go Tomlinson for 6 months - just because I think we need the cover and with his experience he's the one most likely to learn our defensive system quickly enough.

Considering Dean wasn't part of the side tomorrow, we might just look at Tomo. He's probably the only one that makes sense

 

[swoop42]

I just don't see how it suits a recruiting strategy to take a lot of picks in the lowest hit recruiting avenue there is.

It's not taking a lot of picks.

It's potentially taking one player as an experienced defensive cover for this season and IF a kid we like is available we get in now before he might become unavailable come the national draft.

No one is advocating it's a must do by the club but does anyone think Macrae or Johnson are going to be at the club in 2026?

 

[sr36]

It's not taking a lot of picks.

It's potentially taking one player as an experienced defensive cover for this season and IF a kid we like is available we get in now before he might become unavailable come the national draft.

No one is advocating it's a must do by the club but does anyone think Macrae or Johnson are going to be at the club in 2026?

I certainly don't, but that makes it even more unlikley. I don't think there's a hope in hell that we'd ask them sit out the end of the year in the final year of their contract where they're going to want to try to attract interest - in order for us to keep open pick 24 in the MSD - just in case we might want to use it. It's just not going to happen unless they re-injure themselves before the MSD and are genuinely out for the year. If we ask anyone, itd be Harrison, as he's contracted for next year and isn't going to play seniors. But even then the AFL have to approve it.

 

[manicpie]

It's not taking a lot of picks.

It's potentially taking one player as an experienced defensive cover for this season and IF a kid we like is available we get in now before he might become unavailable come the national draft.

No one is advocating it's a must do by the club but does anyone think Macrae or Johnson are going to be at the club in 2026?

You'd have to take the kid with potential for 18 months, otherwise he would be available for the draft anyway. I think tomlinson is the only player that would be worth taking for 6 months. There just isn't enough good news stories coming out of the MSD.

 

[sr36]

You'd have to take the kid with potential for 18 months, otherwise he would be available for the draft anyway. I think tomlinson is the only player that would be worth taking for 6 months. There just isn't enough good news stories coming out of the MSD.

This might actually be a decent MSD year, as the draft before it was so deep.

 

[Jen2310]

MSD's are generally for
1. Overlooked 18-19 year olds
2. VFL players waiting for an opportunity
Not too often you clubs go with older ex afl players, so it'll be interesting to see our tactic

 

[manicpie]

This might actually be a decent MSD year, as the draft before it was so deep.

It could be. There were a few like mumbles that you mentioned earlier and bummiester. I'm sure there were more that we liked that didn't get picked up

 

[sr36]

MSD's are generally for
1. Overlooked 18-19 year olds
2. VFL players waiting for an opportunity
Not too often you clubs go with older ex afl players, so it'll be interesting to see our tactic

I can't think of anyone who has ever been picked up as the 6 month filler as injury cover - which was supposedly the point of the thing in the first place.

 

[Jen2310]

I can't think of anyone who has ever been picked up as the 6 month filler as injury cover - which was supposedly the point of the thing in the first place.

Yeah, that doesn't happen these days either. Its now turned into another drafting avenue, another way to get young talent in the door, and generally from the previous years undrafted players, or young state league players wanting an opportunity.

Its why clubs are so interested in these young guns games, or the state game. Not sure there has been a time when someone has selected a 30+ year old for depth. Its why, unless we have changed tactic to what we have done since 2019, I don't think we'll go for Tomlinson. Mccartin is 26, but he is waiting for an opportunity. Could be a chance. Or do they just go for the undrafted last year. Or those impressing in the young guns games, especially if you say have a pick 5-6?

 

[leon123]

It could be. There were a few like mumbles that you mentioned earlier and bummiester. I'm sure there were more that we liked that didn't get picked up

Bummiester, miester meaning an expert. Bum expert. Just get him

 

[sr36]

Yeah, that doesn't happen these days either. Its now turned into another drafting avenue, another way to get young talent in the door, and generally from the previous years undrafted players, or young state league players wanting an opportunity.

Its why clubs are so interested in these young guns games, or the state game. Not sure there has been a time when someone has selected a 30+ year old for depth. Its why, unless we have changed tactic to what we have done since 2019, I don't think we'll go for Tomlinson. Mccartin is 26, but he is waiting for an opportunity. Could be a chance. Or do they just go for the undrafted last year. Or those impressing in the young guns games, especially if you say have a pick 5-6?

That's why I'm a bit anti using the MSD unless you genuinely rate someone - to me it's generally the worst avenue for finding a longer term prospect. I'd much prefer us to go the SSP or extra National Draft pick route - where you'd probably have access to the same player that you'd take in the second round anyway.

We are the club who'd consider doing it for the very short term though.

 

[sr36]

Bummiester, miester meaning an expert. Bum expert. Just get him

It's can't lose. He's the missing Kardashian sibling - so that would be good for the sponsors if he ca't play footy.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

The coach apparently said he had a setback in his recovery and may struggle to play this year.

Very disappointing news, assuming that's been correctly reported.

He's only young so take all the time needed, and have back for pre-season fit, and build for 2026. He is one of our most exciting young guns.

 

[Jen2310]

That's why I'm a bit anti using the MSD unless you genuinely rate someone - to me it's generally the worst avenue for finding a longer term prospect. I'd much prefer us to go the SSP or extra National Draft pick route - where you'd probably have access to the same player that you'd take in the second round anyway.

We are the club who'd consider doing it for the very short term though.

I guess sometimes clubs see it as being able to get in a young player a few months (without needing a ND pick) earlier. And with last years deep draft, there would have been some that fell out undrafted.

I still believe we are looking at an overager player. We'll see next month.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

This might actually be a decent MSD year, as the draft before it was so deep.

We do alright out of the MSD. Hopefully that continues this season. I feel we will take McCartin if he's available. Averaging 10 intercept possessions per game is a fair audition.....

 

[Copeland]

Im far from an expert but Floyd's kicking action looks dicky.

Floyd Burmeister Draft Profile

GWV Rebels ruck-forward Floyd Burmeister burst onto the scene in 2024, showcasing his promising athletic upside and aerial ability.

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[manicpie]

Im far from an expert but Floyd's kicking action looks dicky.

Floyd Burmeister Draft Profile

GWV Rebels ruck-forward Floyd Burmeister burst onto the scene in 2024, showcasing his promising athletic upside and aerial ability.

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A dicky bum master could be risky. he's got a bit of charlie Manson about him

 

[sr36]

He's only young so take all the time needed, and have back for pre-season fit, and build for 2026. He is one of our most exciting young guns.

Noble and Long are good uns, but neither of them needed to be taken in the MSD - no one else was interested and they would have been available at the end of the year and we could have taken Long in the previous SSP.

 

[Jen2310]

Noble and Long are good uns, but neither of them needed to be taken in the MSD - no one else was interested and they would have been available at the end of the year and we could have taken Long in the previous SSP.

I think Noble was the perfect example of a MSD. 22 years old, toying away at sanfl level. Was always told he wasn't good enough, big enough, until a club took a chance on him. Worked hard to get there.

 

[sr36]

I think Noble was the perfect example of a MSD. 22 years old, toying away at sanfl level. Was always told he wasn't good enough, big enough, until a club took a chance on him. Worked hard to get there.

I agree with you, particularly under the rules of the time, but these days with SSP, I think you're better off leaving the list spot open and getting a couple of Noble type players to do a preseason rather than using the MSD.