Mike Hussey - The Greatest Man Alive?

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Hussey is the only player to average over 50 in one day and test cricket. Amazing player. Cant believe he cant get a gig in the T20. Didnt he pretty much hold us up on his own at the T20 World Cup in the West Indies???

He could bat anywhere. Spent over a decade opening for the Warriors. And coming on as a scond change bowler. Plus kept wicket when Cambo was injured.

Hussey for leader of the free world.
 

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I also think he's the best outfield catcher I've seen in ODIs...and in the gully in Tests!

If not number 1, he'd be right up there! :thumbsu:

Seems a terrific bloke too.
 

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Hussey is the only player to average over 50 in one day and test cricket. Amazing player. Cant believe he cant get a gig in the T20. Didnt he pretty much hold us up on his own at the T20 World Cup in the West Indies???
They said they were resting him from the recent T20's, but that he will be playing in the T20's in the West Indies, and I imagine will def be in the squad for the World T20 later in the year. :thumbsu:

Love his work! :)
 

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I disagree with some of the points above and I'll explain why:

He comes across as a good bloke when things are going his way, but his true colours come out when things aren't so rosy. The issue of umpiring decisions highlights this perfectly.

-Firstly, from his test debut to when the DRS was brought in, he survived so many plumb LBW decisions that it was ridiculous. It is no surprise that his average plummeted post DRS.

-Secondly:
*he is happy to accept bad decisions that go his way (such as above) and;
*he is happy to go up like there's no tomorrow against opposition batsman when they are clearly not out
*yet when he gets out to a line ball or bad decision, without fail he'll have a big sook (seem to usually drop the F bomb in a fairly animated manner) on the way back to the pavilion. People mention that Tendulkar carries on after copping a line ball or bad decision, but watch Hussey - he is a lot worse.

-Thirdly, he is a selective walker (which is the worst kind IMO - worse than a walker and non-walker IMO). He will walk when he is obviously out, but if there is any possibility of him getting away with it, then he'll stay put and act stunned. eg watch his dismissal against Sri Lanka at the SCG about a week or so ago - he clearly nicks it behind, but just stays put as if he didn't hit it. Watch the bowler, Angelo Mathews, telling him to "F*** OFF" after the umpire gives him out - I'm not normally a fan of bowlers doing that to batsman after they are out, but in this case, it didn't seem so bad.
 
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*when he gets out to a line ball or bad decision, without fail he'll have a big sook (seem to usually drop the F bomb in a fairly animated manner) on the way back to the pavilion. People mention that Tendulkar carries on after copping a line ball or bad decision, but watch Hussey - he is a lot worse.
[youtube]mPKzOSGH0AM[/youtube]

Yeah, look how much he carries on there. Swearing like nobody I've ever seen before.

:confused:
 

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I disagree with some of the points above and I'll explain why:

He comes across as a good bloke when things are going his way, but his true colours come out when things aren't so rosy. The issue of umpiring decisions highlights this perfectly.

-Firstly, from his test debut to when the DRS was brought in, he survived so many plumb LBW decisions that it was ridiculous. It is no surprise that his average plummeted post DRS.

-Secondly:
*he is happy to accept bad decisions that go his way (such as above) and;
*he is happy to go up like there's no tomorrow against opposition batsman when they are clearly not out (eg he was the one who "caught" Sangakarra off the helmet during that innings of 192 in Hobart. Hussey would have been in a position to see that, at best, there was some doubt about the dismissal, but he was happy to appeal like it was clearly out);
*yet when he gets out to a line ball or bad decision, without fail he'll have a big sook (seem to usually drop the F bomb in a fairly animated manner) on the way back to the pavilion. People mention that Tendulkar carries on after copping a line ball or bad decision, but watch Hussey - he is a lot worse.

-Thirdly, he is a selective walker (which is the worst kind IMO - worse than a walker and non-walker IMO). He will walk when he is obviously out, but if there is any possibility of him getting away with it, then he'll stay put and act stunned. eg watch his dismissal against Sri Lanka at the SCG about a week or so ago - he clearly nicks it behind, but just stays put as if he didn't hit it. Watch the bowler, Angelo Mathews, telling him to "F*** OFF" after the umpire gives him out - I'm not normally a fan of bowlers doing that to batsman after they are out, but in this case, it didn't seem so bad.


I have a feeling the poster may be Dave. :p
 

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I disagree with some of the points above and I'll explain why:

He comes across as a good bloke when things are going his way, but his true colours come out when things aren't so rosy. The issue of umpiring decisions highlights this perfectly.

-Firstly, from his test debut to when the DRS was brought in, he survived so many plumb LBW decisions that it was ridiculous. It is no surprise that his average plummeted post DRS.

-Secondly:
*he is happy to accept bad decisions that go his way (such as above) and;
*he is happy to go up like there's no tomorrow against opposition batsman when they are clearly not out (eg he was the one who "caught" Sangakarra off the helmet during that innings of 192 in Hobart. Hussey would have been in a position to see that, at best, there was some doubt about the dismissal, but he was happy to appeal like it was clearly out);
*yet when he gets out to a line ball or bad decision, without fail he'll have a big sook (seem to usually drop the F bomb in a fairly animated manner) on the way back to the pavilion. People mention that Tendulkar carries on after copping a line ball or bad decision, but watch Hussey - he is a lot worse.

-Thirdly, he is a selective walker (which is the worst kind IMO - worse than a walker and non-walker IMO). He will walk when he is obviously out, but if there is any possibility of him getting away with it, then he'll stay put and act stunned. eg watch his dismissal against Sri Lanka at the SCG about a week or so ago - he clearly nicks it behind, but just stays put as if he didn't hit it. Watch the bowler, Angelo Mathews, telling him to "F*** OFF" after the umpire gives him out - I'm not normally a fan of bowlers doing that to batsman after they are out, but in this case, it didn't seem so bad.
Shun the non believer!

In all seriousness, you do raise a good point. Huss could definitely tone down his blatant disappointment when he receives a bad call if he is going to continue to accept the ones that go his way. In saying that, you'd struggle to find a batsman nowadays who will just accept a bad decision and walk off without some remonstrations, and most will gladly accept a howler in their favour. So disregarding a few moments of on the field play and given his usual character, he is a legend and a massive plus for Aussie cricket.
 

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[youtube]mPKzOSGH0AM[/youtube]

Yeah, look how much he carries on there. Swearing like nobody I've ever seen before.

:confused:
That video proves my point. You think that's not carrying on? Look at him sooking all the way back to the pavillion (admittedly, in this video, he doesn't drop the F bomb as animatedly as he has in recent times) Tendulkar has been hung, drawn and quartered on this forum for less carry on than that at times - see some of the match threads during the summer.

Shun the non believer!

In all seriousness, you do raise a good point. Huss could definitely tone down his blatant disappointment when he receives a bad call if he is going to continue to accept the ones that go his way. In saying that, you'd struggle to find a batsman nowadays who will just accept a bad decision and walk off without some remonstrations, and most will gladly accept a howler in their favour. So disregarding a few moments of on the field play and given his usual character, he is a legend and a massive plus for Aussie cricket.
Thanks. I don't think there would have been anyone who disliked him when he first came on the international scene in 2005, after having done the hard yards at first class level. However, over time, petulant reactions like the above, while being happy to get away with many, many decisions that have gone his way, lowers his standing IMHO.
 

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That video proves my point. You think that's not carrying on? Look at him sooking all the way back to the pavillion (admittedly, in this video, he doesn't drop the F bomb as animatedly as he has in recent times) Tendulkar has been hung, drawn and quartered on this forum for less carry on than that at times - see some of the match threads during the summer.


Thanks. I don't think there would have been anyone who disliked him when he first came on the international scene in 2005, after having done the hard yards at first class level. However, over time, petulant reactions like the above, while being happy to get away with many, many decisions that have gone his way, lowers his standing IMHO.
You made some decent points in your first post, dislike the above comment though. Who wouldn't be filthy if they'd just been given out like that? His bat was a mile away!

There's a difference between White Line Fever and 'petulance', and Hussey suffers from the former. Good thing to, I wouldn't want someone coming out to represent Australia at 2/30 who said to himself "oh well, we'll see what happens here eh!" That dedication to performing at his peak has made him the player he is today. If he gets out, he'll be furious with himself for letting the team down. Sure, he'll stand his ground when trapped in front, but who doesn't? Batsmen everywhere will move away from where they played the ball, act like nothing happened and maybe even go for a leg bye. Ponting vs. South Africa a few months back (?) is one of the few walks I can recall - and he was so plum he could have been a pie.

Further, to say his reactions are petulant is unfair compared to what the Indians have brought to the table this summer. Petulance is Kohli getting himself moved to the infield because of a bit of light heckling from the crowd. Petulance is Dhoni at a press conference going on about D.Hussey getting away with that one the other night. Petulance is not M.Hussey being annoyed with being dismissed cheaply.
 

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golions is kidding himself.

When Hussey blows up, it's normally at himself, not the Umpire. When Warner ran him out on the weekend, he was fuming, but it wasn't at the Umpire.

As for the 'never got out LBW thing,' - also kidding yourself; especially when you use Tendulkar as the comparison.
 
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I disagree with some of the points above and I'll explain why:

He comes across as a good bloke when things are going his way, but his true colours come out when things aren't so rosy. The issue of umpiring decisions highlights this perfectly.

-Firstly, from his test debut to when the DRS was brought in, he survived so many plumb LBW decisions that it was ridiculous. It is no surprise that his average plummeted post DRS.

-Secondly:
*he is happy to accept bad decisions that go his way (such as above) and;
*he is happy to go up like there's no tomorrow against opposition batsman when they are clearly not out (eg he was the one who "caught" Sangakarra off the helmet during that innings of 192 in Hobart. Hussey would have been in a position to see that, at best, there was some doubt about the dismissal, but he was happy to appeal like it was clearly out);
*yet when he gets out to a line ball or bad decision, without fail he'll have a big sook (seem to usually drop the F bomb in a fairly animated manner) on the way back to the pavilion. People mention that Tendulkar carries on after copping a line ball or bad decision, but watch Hussey - he is a lot worse.

-Thirdly, he is a selective walker (which is the worst kind IMO - worse than a walker and non-walker IMO). He will walk when he is obviously out, but if there is any possibility of him getting away with it, then he'll stay put and act stunned. eg watch his dismissal against Sri Lanka at the SCG about a week or so ago - he clearly nicks it behind, but just stays put as if he didn't hit it. Watch the bowler, Angelo Mathews, telling him to "F*** OFF" after the umpire gives him out - I'm not normally a fan of bowlers doing that to batsman after they are out, but in this case, it didn't seem so bad.
All of these points all completely correct. So from now on Hussey should:
- As soon as he is hit on the pads he should just walk. It's obviously his fault if he is given not out, plumb or not.
- As soon as he is given out, smile. It doesn't matter that he is representing his country and wants to make runs for his team.

I could go on with my sarcasm but you get the point.

Oh, one more, when fielding and the appeal is 50/50, only appeal like it is 50/50, never give it a full appeal because some supporters may get a little upset.;)
 

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Sure, he'll stand his ground when trapped in front, but who doesn't?
LBWs fair enough, but Hussey stands around when it's a close call when he knows he's edged it behind. Take the Angelo Mathews dismissal of him at the SCG the other week - he was just standing around hoping he'd get away with it.


golions is kidding himself.

When Hussey blows up, it's normally at himself, not the Umpire. When Warner ran him out on the weekend, he was fuming, but it wasn't at the Umpire.
Ahahaha good one. If this were the case, then how come he only acts like that when he is given out incorrectly or when he is involved in a run out? Essentially where (according to him, and correctly with Warner the other day) someone else would be at fault. I've never seen him that upset when he's obviously out, even when Australia have been in trouble.

As for the 'never got out LBW thing,' - also kidding yourself; especially when you use Tendulkar as the comparison.
You're kidding right? Hussey benefitted from the "Justin Langer Left Hander Effect" of getting away with plumb LBWs time after time. Why do you think his average has plummeted from being over 60 to borderline 50 since the DRS has come in? I'm not saying that Hussey should give himself out LBW - what I'm saying is that Hussey got away with so many LBWs (some ridiculously plumb) that he shouldn't act like a tosser have a sook when things don't always go his way, especially since he has no issues appealing for wrong dismissals against opposition batsman

All of these points all completely correct. So from now on Hussey should:
- As soon as he is hit on the pads he should just walk. It's obviously his fault if he is given not out, plumb or not.
- As soon as he is given out, smile. It doesn't matter that he is representing his country and wants to make runs for his team.

I could go on with my sarcasm but you get the point.

Oh, one more, when fielding and the appeal is 50/50, only appeal like it is 50/50, never give it a full appeal because some supporters may get a little upset.;)
Haha, oh I get it now, all those comments at the start of the thread are sarcastic ones ;)
 

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Point may be valid if he was sooking Virat Kholi style at the ump every time something didn't go his way.

He doesn't.

But yeah, i guess you're right, Huss swears while walking off after a shit decision, wow what a prick
 

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How many AFL players say oops sorry ump you got that wrong i got him high? How many arc up when a bad call is made?

Never seems a problem to anyone on these boards.

While on that, i never see people posting 'Hey great my team lost, im so happy it makes the season more interesting'.

Nope, like North i want my Australian team to go hard and win. I dont look down on North players cracking the shits over bad calls (unless it effects the game) and i dont expect them to own up to bumping a player high. And sure as hell dont like them losing, ever.
 
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All of these points all completely correct. So from now on Hussey should:
- As soon as he is hit on the pads he should just walk. It's obviously his fault if he is given not out, plumb or not.
- As soon as he is given out, smile. It doesn't matter that he is representing his country and wants to make runs for his team.

I could go on with my sarcasm but you get the point.

Oh, one more, when fielding and the appeal is 50/50, only appeal like it is 50/50, never give it a full appeal because some supporters may get a little upset.;)
lold

golions you're an absolute joke, great thread (Y)
 

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I asked if I could have his bat after he made a low score at a Lilac Hill Festival Match... He said no.

Shit bloke :p
 

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You're kidding right? Hussey benefitted from the "Justin Langer Left Hander Effect" of getting away with plumb LBWs time after time. Why do you think his average has plummeted from being over 60 to borderline 50 since the DRS has come in? I'm not saying that Hussey should give himself out LBW - what I'm saying is that Hussey got away with so many LBWs (some ridiculously plumb) that he shouldn't act like a tosser have a sook when things don't always go his way, especially since he has no issues appealing for wrong dismissals against opposition batsman
Number of times dismissed lbw :

2006 - 3
2007 - 2
2008 - 3
2009 - 4
2010 - 4
2011 - 3
2012 - 1

Total of 20 times dismissed lbw, of those only once was Hussey given out lbw after on referral after he was originally given not out by the umpire.

Further, going by the cricinfo commentary 3 of the times he was dismissed in 2010 and his dismissal in 2012 he could consider himself unlucky

Hard to claim his average has dropped due to drs
 
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