Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
Any word on if the 2 weeks have been accepted?
Any word on if the 2 weeks have been accepted?
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Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
Go back to your own board your talking s**t. He clearly didnt see the ball go loose.
Go back to your own board your talking s**t. He clearly didnt see the ball go loose.
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Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
You are letting your misplaced anger at me cloud your common sense. Let's say he clearly didn't see the ball go loose as you say (really neither of us can say either way what a person did or didn't see), but it was Milburn's hand that knocked the ball loose. So unless he has no feeling in his right arm, he would have known he had hit the ball loose (even if he hadn't seen it roll away).
You are letting your misplaced anger at me cloud your common sense. Let's say he clearly didn't see the ball go loose as you say (really neither of us can say either way what a person did or didn't see), but it was Milburn's hand that knocked the ball loose. So unless he has no feeling in his right arm, he would have known he had hit the ball loose (even if he hadn't seen it roll away).
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Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
Whether the ball spilled loose or not actually has nothing to do with the penalty.
What matters more is that the tackle was in one motion, and played at realtime, you'll easily see it is.
Whether the ball spilled loose or not actually has nothing to do with the penalty.
What matters more is that the tackle was in one motion, and played at realtime, you'll easily see it is.
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Fighting Dash's suspension
We are off to the tribunal. Fingers crossed
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Link?
I reckon they're chance, but if the AFL are dead-set on 'setting an example' this week then we're probably stuffed.
If they can at least argue the 'high contact' part of the charge then if nothing else they ought to be able to reduce it to a week or something.
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I reckon they're chance, but if the AFL are dead-set on 'setting an example' this week then we're probably stuffed.
If they can at least argue the 'high contact' part of the charge then if nothing else they ought to be able to reduce it to a week or something.
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Not good news at all. The AFL has made Milburn the scapegoat and he will now get four matches IMO. I hope I'm wrong.
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REB
Not good news at all. The AFL has made Milburn the scapegoat and he will now get four matches IMO. I hope I'm wrong.
regards,
REB
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Was always headed this way.
The "high contact" grading needs to be tested before the tribunal as it has serious ramifications elsewhere if confirmed.
Of course, Geelong will argue that Milburn did not know the ball had spilled which makes the incident identical to the others where no report was laid. Again, on the available video evidence, I can't see how anyone could conclude that Milburn knew the ball had spilled. It's possible he caught a glimpse of the ball, but legal systems are not supposed to work on the basis of possibilities, rather facts and likelihoods.
Was always headed this way.
The "high contact" grading needs to be tested before the tribunal as it has serious ramifications elsewhere if confirmed.
Of course, Geelong will argue that Milburn did not know the ball had spilled which makes the incident identical to the others where no report was laid. Again, on the available video evidence, I can't see how anyone could conclude that Milburn knew the ball had spilled. It's possible he caught a glimpse of the ball, but legal systems are not supposed to work on the basis of possibilities, rather facts and likelihoods.
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Club must believe that at worst he'll get 2 weeks, or does the tribunal have no discretion if they sustain the charge at the same level? Easy to lose form if out for 4 matches/5 weeks, but 2 weeks would be a 'good' rest.
Ridiculous precedent by MRP irrespective of the outcome. I think it was a poor tackle, possibly 1 week.
We are off to the tribunal. Fingers crossed
Club must believe that at worst he'll get 2 weeks, or does the tribunal have no discretion if they sustain the charge at the same level? Easy to lose form if out for 4 matches/5 weeks, but 2 weeks would be a 'good' rest.
Ridiculous precedent by MRP irrespective of the outcome. I think it was a poor tackle, possibly 1 week.
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i dont think this is the right way to go, afl now making this a big issue and will set an example, remember stokes last year?? 1st ones up always go for longer and i think this will be the same, i would think he will get the full 4 now. fingers crossed though.
i dont think this is the right way to go, afl now making this a big issue and will set an example, remember stokes last year?? 1st ones up always go for longer and i think this will be the same, i would think he will get the full 4 now. fingers crossed though.
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3 weeks. His good record gets a week off the 4 regardless.
Not good news at all. The AFL has made Milburn the scapegoat and he will now get four matches IMO. I hope I'm wrong.
regards,
REB
3 weeks. His good record gets a week off the 4 regardless.
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Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
the game is going at over 100 miles an hour, and who has time to make a split decision on wether someone disposed of the ball illegally or still has it? there was no handball or kicking motion - of course one would asuusme he still had it. Play on.
bugger off troll.
the game is going at over 100 miles an hour, and who has time to make a split decision on wether someone disposed of the ball illegally or still has it? there was no handball or kicking motion - of course one would asuusme he still had it. Play on.
Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
fact is where all coming from a viewpoint of football we've played, football that is CONSIDERABLY slower than the pace afl is played at.
As said on the sunday footy show, coaches stress the importance of bringing a player to ground in a tackle to make them ineffectual and nullify their influence on the field of play. Millers 230 games deep in an afl career, this would be well and truly reflex.
If your gonna tackle hard and apply the utmost of pressure on opposition players then incidents like this at the speed at which the AFL is played are bound to happen. All this will serve to do is make players more hesitant about playing physical and afl will set the tone for players to be punished for indiscretions that look 'unsavoury' on camera.
fact is where all coming from a viewpoint of football we've played, football that is CONSIDERABLY slower than the pace afl is played at.
As said on the sunday footy show, coaches stress the importance of bringing a player to ground in a tackle to make them ineffectual and nullify their influence on the field of play. Millers 230 games deep in an afl career, this would be well and truly reflex.
If your gonna tackle hard and apply the utmost of pressure on opposition players then incidents like this at the speed at which the AFL is played are bound to happen. All this will serve to do is make players more hesitant about playing physical and afl will set the tone for players to be punished for indiscretions that look 'unsavoury' on camera.
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Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
GFC are offficially challenging the decision as discussed in the other thread and confirmed here: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24131318-19742,00.html
GFC are offficially challenging the decision as discussed in the other thread and confirmed here: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24131318-19742,00.html
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Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
What most on here seem filthy with is the four weeks, which is totally absurd I'll agree [ points system should be chucked out immediately ] but in this case after all the BS has been waded through [ good record, guilty plea ] I reckon two weeks is just about right.
Thought Milburns actions, or to be more precise the severity of them, were unnecessary and fractionally late; was definitely two actions IMO.
Comparing this to other incidents is pointless as we all know the inconsistencies of the MRP, and we'll just have to live with it until/unless there's a major overhaul, the points system is abandoned and some people with common sense are appointed to adjudicate on these matters.
In these matters surely the AFL must be the laughing stock of the sports world.
What most on here seem filthy with is the four weeks, which is totally absurd I'll agree [ points system should be chucked out immediately ] but in this case after all the BS has been waded through [ good record, guilty plea ] I reckon two weeks is just about right.
Thought Milburns actions, or to be more precise the severity of them, were unnecessary and fractionally late; was definitely two actions IMO.
Comparing this to other incidents is pointless as we all know the inconsistencies of the MRP, and we'll just have to live with it until/unless there's a major overhaul, the points system is abandoned and some people with common sense are appointed to adjudicate on these matters.
In these matters surely the AFL must be the laughing stock of the sports world.
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Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
oh god, doubt he will get away with it, meaning no milburn for the remainder of the h/a season!
As for the penalty, who knows, it is the AFL we are talking about.
You guys are saying it is too harsh, yet when hawks said that about brown (pre-season) in very simmilar circumstances we were whinging....
the force was applied much later than that of brown on kruezer
the force was applied downward on edwards towards his head. brown on kruezer was toward the back/body.
both should have gotten off. Milburn should get 1 week at least (as brown would have recieved 1 if not for priors) despite the fact the impact was toward edwards head.
oh god, doubt he will get away with it, meaning no milburn for the remainder of the h/a season!
As for the penalty, who knows, it is the AFL we are talking about.
You guys are saying it is too harsh, yet when hawks said that about brown (pre-season) in very simmilar circumstances we were whinging....
the force was applied much later than that of brown on kruezer
the force was applied downward on edwards towards his head. brown on kruezer was toward the back/body.
both should have gotten off. Milburn should get 1 week at least (as brown would have recieved 1 if not for priors) despite the fact the impact was toward edwards head.
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Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
EXACTLY. I can't believe we're not using those androids that were developed that made the perfect decision every time, and have 360-degree and x-ray vision.
And anyway, it's not like fining umpires or making them accountable could possible have a negative effect, or discourage even more people from becoming umpires. Sending them back to the VFL when they have a bad game is pathetic, it should be based on a SINGLE decision. Get one wrong, bang, gone.
And what does it even achieve anyway? Like, I know we use that punishment on players, but, um, surely umpires don't have exactly the same motivations as players to do well...
I can't believe Milburn got a free.
The umpires that night were bloody shocking
Why aren't they fined or held accountable?
EXACTLY. I can't believe we're not using those androids that were developed that made the perfect decision every time, and have 360-degree and x-ray vision.
And anyway, it's not like fining umpires or making them accountable could possible have a negative effect, or discourage even more people from becoming umpires. Sending them back to the VFL when they have a bad game is pathetic, it should be based on a SINGLE decision. Get one wrong, bang, gone.
And what does it even achieve anyway? Like, I know we use that punishment on players, but, um, surely umpires don't have exactly the same motivations as players to do well...
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Re: Milburn - two weeks (with a guilty plea)
I don't think I said anything about Solomon's penalty. But since you bring it up, I guess you are getting all fired up because of the injury sustained by Ling. Let's say for example, that Edwards had his neck broken by the tackle that Milburn laid...would you feel any differently about the length of the suspension?
I don't think I said anything about Solomon's penalty. But since you bring it up, I guess you are getting all fired up because of the injury sustained by Ling. Let's say for example, that Edwards had his neck broken by the tackle that Milburn laid...would you feel any differently about the length of the suspension?
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Huge gamble IMO, if things go wrong and he ends up with three weeks it's hardly an ideal preparation for the finals.
While I don't think it's for "the good of the game" that we're doing this I still agree with Choota, it's way past time someone took a stance against the absurdities inflicted by the MRP.
Huge gamble IMO, if things go wrong and he ends up with three weeks it's hardly an ideal preparation for the finals.
While I don't think it's for "the good of the game" that we're doing this I still agree with Choota, it's way past time someone took a stance against the absurdities inflicted by the MRP.
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exactly - aboput time we stood up to the porker and his razor gang - razor implying they are cutting the life out of the game for corporate purposes. screw them all. lets raise the Eureka flag and march on AFL house..............
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