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Don't let the door hit ya in the way out jimmy. Any trade was a win at this point... now when can we sack thibs?
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What protections were on those picks?A shocking trade and missed opportunity for Minnesota.
Those Houston x4 first rounders would have been a much better option.
For Thibs knowing his coaching position is on the line was always going to go for players rather than picks, as he won't survive if the T-Wolves miss the playoffs irrespective of how many picks gained in that trade.
It's just why you have your coach in charge of trades.
That’s what’s frustrating me the most out of all this. Thibs is stubborn and selfish and is willing to bring the whole thing down chasing what is likely to be a first round exit if they made it anyway. Hes stubborn and old fashioned when he coaches and you can see that’s his nature with everything.. Wiggins Lavine and Towns would have been coming into their prime just as the Warriors started to slow down. But he couldn’t see past trying to knock off what is close to the greatest team in history, by adding 1 all star he used to coach, to a lottery team.. He’ll walk away (probably at the end of the season as Taylor seems just as ignorant and stubborn) with the organisation in tatters once again, and all those hard years down the bottom wasted trying to challenge 4 all stars (at the time 3 but point still stands).A shocking trade and missed opportunity for Minnesota.
Those Houston x4 first rounders would have been a much better option.
For Thibs knowing his coaching position is on the line was always going to go for players rather than picks, as he won't survive if the T-Wolves miss the playoffs irrespective of how many picks gained in that trade.
It's just why you have your coach in charge of trades.
A shocking trade and missed opportunity for Minnesota.
Those Houston x4 first rounders would have been a much better option.
For Thibs knowing his coaching position is on the line was always going to go for players rather than picks, as he won't survive if the T-Wolves miss the playoffs irrespective of how many picks gained in that trade.
It's just why you have your coach in charge of trades.
What protections were on those picks?
Anyways in the end getting rid of butler good
Covington menace in passing lanes good. Adds shooting
Pick up rich man Bjelica.
Just glad its over.
That’s what’s frustrating me the most out of all this. Thibs is stubborn and selfish and is willing to bring the whole thing down chasing what is likely to be a first round exit if they made it anyway. Hes stubborn and old fashioned when he coaches and you can see that’s his nature with everything.. Wiggins Lavine and Towns would have been coming into their prime just as the Warriors started to slow down. But he couldn’t see past trying to knock off what is close to the greatest team in history, by adding 1 all star he used to coach, to a lottery team.. He’ll walk away (probably at the end of the season as Taylor seems just as ignorant and stubborn) with the organisation in tatters once again, and all those hard years down the bottom wasted trying to challenge 4 all stars (at the time 3 but point still stands).
Far from shocking, hard to see how we get out of this with a better deal. Lose a high usage player who still relies on his mid range shooting and was disruptive to the team. In return we get 2 players who are much more adept at shooting 3, one being a decent defender and the other a member of All Defense Team. Saric is only 24 and a better fit next to Towns than Gibson is. Glad this is over, the way Butler has acted has a been a joke - even bigger joke for Thibs allowing it to occur.
I agree with the players as they are now but I’d argue that Towns and Wiggins would have come on a lot more with Lavine instead of Butler (from an off court and team morale perspective). They were all only 20-21 at the time and everyone was expecting a playoff team. Even if we didn’t want to extend Lavine we still gave up Markaanen and Dunn (add Patton to that list now). I’d be taking a starting 5 of Towns, LM, Wiggins/Lavine, a two way SF or SG, and Rose with Dunn and cap space from not signing Teague and Gibson, over the current situation.Just because Butler didn't work doesn't mean we have to pretend LaVine would have worked.
A core of KAT/Wiggins/LaVine at this point would get one stop a game.
The Wiggins or LaVine argument is legitimate, I'd take Zach at this point.
The rotation becomes a bit of a question mark now.
Bayless won't see minutes regularly but the point guard situation is still a bit up in the air. Teague, Rose, Jones - does one of them get moved? Who? Who starts?
In the front court, KAT is a certainty to start but from there, Gibson, Saric, Tolliver and Dieng are all worthy of minutes. Does Dieng move on with Taj taking some minutes at the 5? Who starts at PF? Does Saric play more wing for us?
At the wings - Wiggins, Okogie, Covington, maybe Saric: who starts?
Wholeheartedly agree.KAT and Markkanen would have been tasty.
If Thibs doesn't want to get fired he will start Saric at the 4 and resemble what a modern offense looks like. Gibson and Dieng will scrap for back up minutes.
- Tom Thibodeau sold Timberwolves‘ owner Glen Taylor on passing on the initial offer from the Heat centered around Josh Richardson because he believed that Pat Riley would come back with a better offer down the road (the Heat never returned with Richardson on the table in subsequent trade talks).
- Taylor considered firing Thibodeau and GM Scott Layden this past summer before the Butler saga broke out and continues to think about the possibility of replacing both of them.
- According to Woj, the Timberwolvesdesperately tried to find other trade partners throughout the past week, including reaching out to the Pelicansand Wizards, to no avail. However, New Orleans wouldn’t offer Jrue Holidayand Washington wouldn’t offer Bradley Beal, unsurprisingly.
- The Sixers initially offered the Timberwolves their choice of Robert Covington and Dario Saric in an offer for Butler before eventually agreeing to include both players.
- The Sixers believe they are operating out of a position of leverage when it comes to dealings with Butler. According to Woj, there are league executives that understand that Butler must be on his best behavior in order to get the full five-year max contract he desires this summer.
FWIW, I think this is a really good deal for Minny. Towns should become one of the best scoring bigs in league history, but that wasn't going to happen with Butler.
Saric, Wiggins and Covington are all switchy defenders who can stop and create turnovers. I think Saric has a lot of playmaking ability which he didn't get a chance to show with Simmons being so ball dominant.
I don't think this good stuff will happen with Thibs though.
Nekminnit backing up Taj Gibson for 14 minutes a game.Defs keen to see Saric being more ball dominant and having some playmaking duties. That was one area in Philly which was under utilised
In game 1.Nekminnit backing up Taj Gibson for 14 minutes a game.
I really should have seen Thibs benching Tolliver and Okogie coming. He is just completely incapable of balancing a rotation.
Anyone still feeling like Rose's performances are outliers?
I said it in the playoffs last year. While this isn't MVP Rose, this D.Rose should start and is still very valuable and a seriously good baller.