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G-Mo77 said:
It doesn't take the smartest guy to work out it's just words.

Sticks and stones.......
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Obviously you have never been in that situation so I understand your comments, but please put mine in perspective and think about the emotional state that Cornes and McGrath could have been under. Sometimes people just dont have rational thought in situations like that and simply dont take into account the nature of the jibe.
 
b0ydman said:
twitter is just ego centric people shouting into a chasm of emptiness anyway
they're all talking, no one is listening

as for Ramprakantfarkesh, i knew his missus was sick, and i still would have said it. its instinctive and its 1-2
mccgrath started it, if he didnt like it he ends it by turning around and walking off
call him a useless gay cricketer afraid of little girls and cricket balls is one thing, but he walked into that one
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Your honestly telling the word that you would make the same comments even if you knew the situation. Thats just sick. thats just cold.
 
kane249 said:
Depending on what was said, Minson might be facing a week off after the precedent they set last year with the McGinnity-Petterd situation
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Im expecting it.

Stuff like this shouldn't even be given a second thought. Shouldn't have happened with McGinnity last year either. Anyone who has ever played footy will have had shit said to them, but you just get on with it.
I don't know why players go and dob on them for saying things like "ya mum....." etc. It's stupid.

FWIW, not saying Minson did the right thing with Cornes years ago.
 

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summers12 said:
Obviously you have never been in that situation so I understand your comments, but please put mine in perspective and think about the emotional state that Cornes and McGrath could have been under. Sometimes people just dont have rational thought in situations like that and simply dont take into account the nature of the jibe.
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How do you know if I haven't been in that situation. The people I played against didn't know me and they didn't know any of my family but still made stupid comments towards them. I just laughed in their faces and tried to belittle them in other ways like beating them. In the end they were all just trying to put me off. Never worked. Shook their hand after the game and moved on.
 
How is Lucy Cornes even involved with this?

This incident had nothing to do with the Cornes family. As for her "apology in the form of a donation" comment. He apologised 5 years ago.

This incident is a comment to Danyle Pearce, regarding Pearce's mother.

Minson is a dick for making shit personal, but Lucy Cornes should shut the **** up.
 
summers12 said:
Your honestly telling the word that you would make the same comments even if you knew the situation. Thats just sick. thats just cold.
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If the difference between winning and losing a championship depended on the ability to affect the opposition's psyche and you had a team mate or were yourself willing to cross the boundaries of propriety to ensure that victory would you be comfortable with that?

Acceptable comment and behaviour is enacted on several levels. You have the collective and the personal. Some people are easily affected and others aren't affected at all. The underlying point is Lucy Cornes shouldn't have made a public comment. She's a WAG and knew her tweet would attract attention given the former comments of Minson (of which he apologised) toward her family. Irrespective of Minson's comments yesterday, there's going to be guilt by association. She's coming across

Unless a person is vindictive by nature, I highly doubt any player or competitor truly means something they utter on the playing field. It's a fleeting moment designed to distract an opponent. Look at the young lad recently suspended for the racial vilification of Oakley-Nicholls in the WAFL. He instantly regretted his position and duly apologised. JON took it further and so be it.

If you're going to play sport, particularly at the elite level you better be prepared to engage in psychological warfare on the field.
 
G-Mo77 said:
How do you know if I haven't been in that situation. The people I played against didn't know me and they didn't know any of my family but still made stupid comments towards them. I just laughed in their faces and tried to belittle them in other ways like beating them. In the end they were all just trying to put me off. Never worked. Shook their hand after the game and moved on.
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Totally agree with all that.

The pertinent part is 'The people I played against didn't know me and they didn't know any of my family', so it's just gamesmanship. If they happened to hit a raw nerve, it would be by accident.

I doubt the cricketer knew McGrath's situation, so I'm fine with that. Minson obviously knew the Cornes situation which is why it was so unpalatable. Big difference.
 
kane249 said:
Depending on what was said, Minson might be facing a week off after the precedent they set last year with the McGinnity-Petterd situation
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sorts out our selection problem for a week, let's see how youngsters Rough + Cordy hold up the ruck/forward roles on their own
 
Look I am not saying dont sledge. Its part of the game. I played footy and couldnt care less about what opponants said to me.

However a line has to be drawn in the sand.

Just because you can take it does not give you the right to say it to everyone else and expect them to take it. 99% of people wont take offense and probably play along, its the other 1% that this situation applies too that will take offense and you have no right whatsoever for having a go at them for not taking it how you meant it.

all your defense will be is look man sorry I didnt know. does that make it ok to say it?
 
summers12 said:
Look I am not saying dont sledge. Its part of the game. I played footy and couldnt care less about what opponants said to me.

However a line has to be drawn in the sand.

Just because you can take it does not give you the right to say it to everyone else and expect them to take it. 99% of people wont take offense and probably play along, its the other 1% that this situation applies too that will take offense and you have no right whatsoever for having a go at them for not taking it how you meant it.

all your defense will be is look man sorry I didnt know. does that make it ok to say it?
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If 99% of people can accept something said to them then that's more than reasonable to say something at the expense of the 1%.
 
summers12 said:
dont complain then if you get a smack in the chops for your remark. simple as that.
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That's the point summers12. The instigator would have won as the sledged player has their focus taken away from their main duty (i.e winning the football). That appears to be a perfectly calculated risk.
 

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ausbacker said:
That's the point summers12. The instigator would have won as the sledged player has their focus taken away from their main duty (i.e winning the football). That appears to be a perfectly calculated risk.
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Exactly right.

While I'm not condoning personal sledging a brilliant way to ensure it never happens is to make sure you never react negatively to it and show the opposition that your focus can be broken and your emotions manipulated.

No one ever sledged Michael Jordan.
 
THRILLHO said:
Exactly right.

While I'm not condoning personal sledging a brilliant way to ensure it never happens is to make sure you never react negatively to it and show the opposition that your focus can be broken and your emotions manipulated.

No one ever sledged Michael Jordan.
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Used to have the opposite effect on Jordan and just fire him up even more. Remember reading in Jayson William's book that what he used to do was just feign lack of interest like he didn't care he was even playing to get around it haha
 
What happens on the field should stay on the field, though I don't condone racist remarks or comments of that nature.

Pretty embarrassing if Cornes is getting his wife to fight his battles for him.
 
I'm not a big fan of Minson but did he actually say anything that went way over the line? I've seen some stuff about it possibly being about Pearce's mum but sledging happens all the time. Part and parcel of the game.

Seems more like a slow news day.
 
Open Slather once the white line is crossed... Anything goes!
 

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Just on McGrath, he asked Sarwan what Brian Lara's **** tasted like, Sarwan said dunno ask your wife, thats when McGrath blew up and I think it was during a time she was going through some cancer treatment but they were keeping it all hush hush.
On the flip side, one day he asked Zimbabwean cricketer Eddo Brandes why he was so fat and Brandes replied because everytime I sleep with your wife she gives me a biscuit ! McGrath and the whole Aussie team broke into hysterical laughter.
So he's not a bully he was affected with emotion.

Still like Michael Voss to brother Brett, my Dad is sleeping with your Mum ! Classis and clever.

It's the clever sledges that are the best ! Cornes doesnt mind a sledge either, Aker was on radio the other day and said Cornes gave him the best sledge of all time "Not even yourr team mates like you" not derogatory or offensive but Aker said it had the right result, he kept chasing Cornes around all day asking him what he meant.
 
His wife is tweeting about something said on the football field. Good god, I thought they bred them tough in Adelaide, I guess not. I assume Cornes has never sledged anyone on the field. Perhaps Will's missus could tweet back then we would really have something to talk about on a footy forum....
 
Minson seems to pride himself on being portrayed in the media as 'intelligent'.
Far from it based on on filed remarks over the years.
 
Igloo said:
Im expecting it.

Stuff like this shouldn't even be given a second thought. Shouldn't have happened with McGinnity last year either. Anyone who has ever played footy will have had shit said to them, but you just get on with it.
I don't know why players go and dob on them for saying things like "ya mum....." etc. It's stupid.

FWIW, not saying Minson did the right thing with Cornes years ago.
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So, should that one have stayed on the field or not?
 
Doesn't surprise me that Minson is like this. Saw him in a pub a couple of years ago and there was some girls in there that were insulted by something he had said to them, I ended up having a word to him and telling him it wasn't on and then he proceeded to tell me how he was an AFL player etc.
 
HarD_StyLe_RoCkA said:
Doesn't surprise me that Minson is like this. Saw him in a pub a couple of years ago and there was some girls in there that were insulted by something he had said to them, I ended up having a word to him and telling him it wasn't on and then he proceeded to tell me how he was an AFL player etc.
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i bet u stared him down and showed him who is boss. give the chap a good ol' stern talkin to.
 

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