Minson offensive comments

[Dancing Dougy]

Are you seriously accusing Minson of being sexist now?

Maybe Powerade08 is trying to oust Will as being a woman hating closet homosexual? Can you personally clarify/varify this Powerade08?

 

[Igloo]

fancy accusing a man who [allegedly] speaks of holding a woman down and anally raping her of being sexist

scandalous!

Seems Port supporters make up the majority who believe that side of events. But of course, two sides to every story, and all that.

 

[questionable]

there are two sides to every story, but that doesn't mean both of them are equally valid.

how about we accept will's version of events for argument's sake. fancy accusing a man who speaks of having sex with another man's mother as a means to anger him of being sexist.

scandalous!

 

[Grizzly_82]

Have to be very mentally weak in reacting to a stranger saying they had sex with your mum

Port Adel mentally weak since 2007

 

[questionable]

yep. domenic cassisi said that in his ten year career, the two worst things he's heard on the field came out of will minson's mouth. must have been hard for dom this weekend hearing his first ever yo mamma joke

 

[Dancing Dougy]

there are two sides to every story, but that doesn't mean both of them are equally valid.

how about we accept will's version of events for argument's sake. fancy accusing a man who speaks of having sex with another man's mother as a means to anger him of being sexist.

scandalous!

Will's smart arse response seemed to be triggered from Pearce's smart arse question. Neither question nor answer was incredibly smart, but the response to this insignificant issue has been utterly outrageous.

It was an off the cuff remark that for what ever reason upset Pearce. For most players such a remark, (which I personally find sitting somewhere between stupid, somewhat lewd & somewhat funny on the sledging scale of mental/emotional anguish) would not even register a furrowed brow.

So what have we learnt... some people have different levels of tolerance for different things. Oh, and Pearce is a soft co<k.

Hardly ground breaking!

 

[HahnPremium]

yep. domenic cassisi said that in his ten year career, the two worst things he's heard on the field came out of will minson's mouth. must have been hard for dom this weekend hearing his first ever yo mamma joke

I reckon "Dom" has heard a lot worse through his afl career.
Being compared to increasingly diminutive animal faeces in regards to his captaincy and playing ability must take its toll.

 

[crownie]

Whilst what Minson said wasn't racist - a white bloke saying he is going to *******e a black woman does have plenty of racial overtones to an aboriginal.

i doubt Minson even thought about what he was saying as it was in the heat of battle.

Pearce baited him, Will said something stupid and if Pearce was offended then it all that was needed was an Apology from Will behind closed doors.

However Port decided to get on their moral high horse to keep the incident running so rumours could start and it ended getting blown out of proportion that now Pearce's character has taken a hit.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Have to be very mentally weak in reacting to a stranger saying they had sex with your mum

Port Adel mentally weak since 2007

I tend to agree. You can argue all you like about whether Minson should have said it, etc, but why in hell would anyone be upset by someone's obviously attempt to sledge? Opponents could say whatever they liked to me, I couldn't give a stuff. The way of getting back is beating them to the ball, and hopefully on the scoreboard.

The word has been out for some time that Pearce can be easily upset, so he can expect more of the same treatment, probably minus the mum talk. If I were Pearce's coach, I'd be telling him to harden up, not showing sympathy to the cause.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Pearce baited him, Will said something stupid and if Pearce was offended then it all that was needed was an Apology from Will behind closed doors.

However Port decided to get on their moral high horse to keep the incident running so rumours could start and it ended getting blown out of proportion that now Pearce's character has taken a hit.

For those of us who played against Port Adelaide in the SANFL in the 1970s, it has made me chuckle to hear Port Adelaide so indignant about it all. I copped a lot worse than that, and if someone suggested they slept with my mum I would have laughed at them for being so pathetic.

 

[demondude]

Can this please be put to bed?

I'm not completely sure of the details of the comments, but I sense that if there wasn't so much fuss made around it, it wouldn't be such an inflamed issue.

Let's highlight a higher priority issue in Racism. I didn't see the Majak Daw issue reach this level of heat?

 

[ManOfClay]

I reckon this is a good post by passion1930 in the last hour on the Port board.

That's all well and good but that poster still says it is fact that Minson said he help Pearce's mother down.

It is not fact. It is the allegations being made by Power supporters who are no wiser than Dogs supporters on what was said.

 

[passion_1930]

That's all well and good but that poster still says it is fact that Minson said he help Pearce's mother down.

It is not fact. It is the allegations being made by Power supporters who are no wiser than Dogs supporters on what was said.

It is a fact and he used the word 'pinned'...came from a player who heard it from the horses mouth, to use Aker's terminology.

The references to this being a racist comment are missing the point. It was not a racial comment but to an Indigenous person aware of the domestic violence and rape amongst Aboriginal women, their reaction and response to this would be different to a white person. Hence, some see his reaction as over the top but I am not black so cannot relate to the context Danyle saw it in.

I think both Minson and Pearce would rather this was all put to rest, and a lesson learnt!

 

[ManOfClay]

It is a fact and he used the word 'pinned'...came from a player who heard it from the horses mouth, to use Aker's terminology.

I think both Minson and Pearce would rather this was all put to rest, and a lesson learnt!

Minson and Picken's account says differently. They are both players too.

 

[passion_1930]

Minson and Picken's account says differently. They are both players too.

I think you will find that Minson initially denied it but had to admit to it once the umpire and other players confirmed Danyle's account of what took place.

 

[ManOfClay]

I think you will find that Minson initially denied it but had to admit to it once the umpire and other players confirmed Danyle's account of what took place.

Where is this admission?

 

[liam_13]

i doubt Minson even thought about what he was saying as it was in the heat of battle.

Pearce baited him, Will said something stupid and if Pearce was offended then it all that was needed was an Apology from Will behind closed doors.

However Port decided to get on their moral high horse to keep the incident running so rumours could start and it ended getting blown out of proportion that now Pearce's character has taken a hit.

Not sure how Pearce's character has taken a hit. And if the sledge was that bad, why should Pearce simply accept an apology? Sorry means nothing these days. It usually means 'sorry I got caught' or 'sorry I didn't realise how much trouble I would get in' rather than 'sorry I actually did the wrong thing and I regret it, and blah blah blah'

Will's smart arse response seemed to be triggered from Pearce's smart arse question. Neither question nor answer was incredibly smart, but the response to this insignificant issue has been utterly outrageous.

It was an off the cuff remark that for what ever reason upset Pearce. For most players such a remark, (which I personally find sitting somewhere between stupid, somewhat lewd & somewhat funny on the sledging scale of mental/emotional anguish) would not even register a furrowed brow.

So what have we learnt... some people have different levels of tolerance for different things. Oh, and Pearce is a soft co<k.

Hardly ground breaking!

I reckon "Dom" has heard a lot worse through his afl career.

Being compared to increasingly diminutive animal faeces in regards to his captaincy and playing ability must take its toll.

All class (not even sure what Cassisis playing ability has to do with the thread, but you know, when your 'smart' player has 2 disgusting sledges outed to his name...)

 

[passion_1930]

Where is this admission?

It took the investigation over a day because of the initial discrepancies between the two parties. It was not consensual sex Minson stated... he used the word pinned which implies rape. Why do you think that Minson does not want to publically state what he said? You don't think that players hear taunts and goes about having sex with each others partner etc? This went to rape with violence and obviously hit a nerve for Danyle.

 

[ManOfClay]

It took the investigation over a day because of the initial discrepancies between the two parties. It was not consensual sex Minson stated... he used the word pinned which implies rape. Why do you think that Minson does not want to publically state what he said? You don't think that players hear taunts and goes about having sex with each others partner etc? This went to rape with violence and obviously hit a nerve for Danyle.

Again you are parading your own conclusions as fact.

 

[Testekill]

In this country, if the racism bow can be drawn, it will. Regardless of how long it may be.

Just like a lot of American media.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Oh, in case you are wondering, I have worked in HR and dealt with many situations like this. Something along the lines of a determination being made by "A reasonable person given a clear understanding of the circumstances surrounding the incident".

Anyway, that's my two cents worth.

You obviously haven't worked in research, considering most of your facts are incorrect (except the one about only reading half the thread).

ALSO, this seems to have been MISSED (or just plain ignored) and seems to explain at least Pearce's side of the story enough for people to get off his back. As has been stated by our CEO, Pearce never complained to anyone, he merely wanted to explain why he was involved in a lot of wrestling on the day:

I also listened to Thomas [Port CEO on 5AA interview this arvo - he was in the studio] and he said something along the lines that Pearce went to Rhode worried about the on field fighting and wanted to explain what took place. Rhode then went to umpires and was told it was already being dealt with. Pearce's motive for going to Rhode was not to complain about the verbal stoush but more to justify the physical fighting. However, obviously he was extremely offended by the comments .

The fact Minson said a few times that he held down Pearce's mother for twenty then thirty minutes and did certain things to her may hit closer to home being Aboriginal with the high level of domestic violence and rape against Aboriginal women. Thomas said several times that you had to understand the context. The majority of us who are not in the know, will have to accept those in the know. Aker says he got what was said from Minson but Minson initially lied to the AFL investigators so he probably lied to Aker.

Danyle did not just take it, in fact he somehow threw Minson to the ground despite the difference in size. Danyle went on to be involved in the next two scores with a great delivery to Ebert ( who got cramp) I don't think it did affect his game after and he was certainly one of our best players on the day despite a heavy tag.

Give Pearce a break.

 

[Mattrox]

I also heard in that interview that the Umpires already were concerned about what what said because they heard it. They indicated to Rhode that action would be taken and that they had things in hand. If the umpires were concerned and no-one is willing to say the exact words, I guess they are not fit for broadcast or print. That would put what was said beyond the spectre of sledging.

 

[Mattrox]

It was an off the cuff remark that for what ever reason upset Pearce. For most players such a remark, (which I personally find sitting somewhere between stupid, somewhat lewd & somewhat funny on the sledging scale of mental/emotional anguish) would not even register a furrowed brow.

Fahour and Mifsud got offened by an off the cuff remark or two as well, and a bloke lost his job.

However Port decided to get on their moral high horse to keep the incident running so rumours could start and it ended getting blown out of proportion that now Pearce's character has taken a hit.

The umpires heard the comment and were independently taking action without Port saying anything. Port approached the umpires to explain the reason for the fisticuffs. Clearly you can't explain the brawling without mentioning the words that sparked it.

The has been a whole lot of speculation by keyboard warriors trying to justify what Minson said. There is never any justification for joking/sledging/making light of/trivialising any type of violence against women. We live in a modern age and need to move beyond "its ok because it was sledging". That sort of tone sends the message that rape/sexual assualt/demeaning acts towards women are ok, as long as you are only joking. Those matters are no joke, unless of course you are stuck in neanderthal times.

There is a blurry line between sledging and work-place harassment. I think that we will see the line cleared up soon. In an age of professionalism in sport, sportsmen (and women) are going to be expected to conduct themselves as professionals in their workplace (on sporting field).

 

[bomberclifford]

Again you are parading your own conclusions as fact.

... and once again you're sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the actual circumstances of the situation because of your childish need to protect the integrity of your team's player.

 

[Bulldog1954]

yep. domenic cassisi said that in his ten year career, the two worst things he's heard on the field came out of will minson's mouth. must have been hard for dom this weekend hearing his first ever yo mamma joke

He obviously didn't hear his team mates comments to Rama about cancer.