There is nothing manly saying crude shit about someones mother.
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I cannot imagine a spectator having their membership taken away if they had yelled the same things over the fence.
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I don't think anybody is going to argue that point, but Minson wasn't doing it to be tough, he was doing it to put Pearce off his game and it worked.
Hearing comments aimed at your mother which couldn't possibly be true and showing them the disdain they deserve by ignoring them would have been the manly thing to do.
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Just give us the general gist of it? Coz tbh, I cant imagine anything being said being THAT bad compared to the usual banter of amateur league level..
ie: "Pearce, I may have had sexual intercourse with your mother in the posterior while restraining her.."
Why is Pearce the villian or not being manly. It takes strength to stand up to the crap that Minson dished out. Its time for this type of rubbish to be removed from the game.
Probably not but I'd be careful who's around you before yelling something similar to a player in the future. No doubt Pearce will be hearing a lot from now on from the spectators.
The AFL ratified the Bulldogs' sanction, and there is no way in hell that they would have signed off on 1 week if stronger language was used. Minson got a week for being a douche and for having some prior form, the AFL would have (rightly) smashed him to pieces if the language was remotely as colorful as you and others have baselessly asserted.
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Watch the footage of Minson mouthing off, they are wrestling, pearce jumper punches minson, who then looks over to the umpire (crying if you will) pointing at his head. The umpire is right there the entire time.
I don't have time to go through the footage of the quarter so feel free to hunt down more. If you watch the entire interview you can also listen for when minson chokes up and can't respond over how it affect his reputation - not sure if its in this link.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...es-danyle-pearce/story-e6frf3e3-1226400958913
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I'm not going to change your mind but if that is your logic process, less power to you.
As i said last time you said this (which you didn't respond to), the Bulldogs did not suspend him when he sledged Kane Corne by saying his son was dying, go home. This is what everyone agrees is beyond sledging and the AFL did not ask the Bulldogs for further action.
Still amazed by the lengths people will go to say Minson did not do anything wrong, it's all cry baby pearce's fault. Even though Pearce & Port did not ask for an investigation and Minson is the one that actually choked up.
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I don't know exactly what was said so I'm not going to comment on just how inappropriate it was. If the club and the AFLPA have come to the conclusion that the remarks made were inappropriate for the workplace that they're in then I'll cop that as fair enough. I'm not terribly bothered by a one match suspension, it's a slap on the wrist and that's all that's deserved (this isn't a case of racial vilification or anything of that degree of seriousness) so my only concern is for how much less competitive the team will be next week, which is irrelevant to how fair or unfair the suspension itself may be.
With all that said, I am genuinely puzzled by the bile that has been spewed from all quarters towards this man. Anyone would think by the sort of comments that have been made that he had actually tied down Pearce's mum and r*ped her. Insults about people's mothers used to be thrown around all the time when I was back in school and some of them were extremely offensive but nobody got up in arms about it. Of course they were inappropriate and of course you would expect better from an adult in a professional environment, but for crying out loud, they're just words. Isn't it possible to say that an appropriate punishment should be handed out and leave it at that without calling the man the scum of the earth?
With all that said, I am genuinely puzzled by the bile that has been spewed from all quarters towards this man. Anyone would think by the sort of comments that have been made that he had actually tied down Pearce's mum and r*ped her. Insults about people's mothers used to be thrown around all the time when I was back in school and some of them were extremely offensive but nobody got up in arms about it. Of course they were inappropriate and of course you would expect better from an adult in a professional environment, but for crying out loud, they're just words. Isn't it possible to say that an appropriate punishment should be handed out and leave it at that without calling the man the scum of the earth?
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This whole situation is an absolute farce. I only recently told my 8 year old daughter to ignore some idiot at school that said something nasty to her, told her that the other child was obviously not too bright and if she ignored her she would stop. Worked fine. Cant see why an AFL player is not able to handle a situation that a typical 8 year old girl can. Laughable.
We are one step away from a player being suspended for not saying bless you when an opposition players sneezes.
I'll repeat agin the whole situation is a farce. What sort of insecure individual takes any notice whatsovever of anything an opposition player says to them on the park.
We are one step away from a player being suspended for not saying bless you when an opposition players sneezes.
I'll repeat agin the whole situation is a farce. What sort of insecure individual takes any notice whatsovever of anything an opposition player says to them on the park.
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Happens every week I would say? Aren't there wrestles all the time over verbal, jumper punches and the like. Too bad the umpire heard Minson but I would say the sledging and wrestling on the field happen every week
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I think there's a couple of clear differences between the schoolyard and the footy field. Firstly, in my experience, that sort of banter/sledging at school came from my best friends, whereas most Port Adelaide players probably already hated Minson because of what he said to Cornes. Think about the sort of insults you hear from your friends on a day to day basis that you just laugh off and think how differently you would respond if they were directed your way by a complete stranger, or someone you don't like very much. I think the levels of tolerance would be fairly different.
On the footy field, more often than not you've got no idea what your opposition is like as a person and whether he would just ignore those comments, or whether he would be outraged by them. It's also likely that on the footy field, you have no idea about the other bloke's family status. If his parents have just split up because of infidelity, it might not just be a 'your mum' joke anymore. If his mum is in hospital, it's might not be considered a joke. I've got no idea whether this is what has happened in this case, but it's fairly easy to see that as soon as you direct your comments away from the player himself and towards his family, the line of what is and what isn't acceptable becomes blurred.
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It takes no strength at all to lash out at somebody via the media. Pearce had his opportunity to take Minson on man to man and failed the test.
Explain why "its time for this type of rubbish to be removed from the game". What exactly would be achieved? Would the game be better to watch? Would we get more goals and bigger scores? Or is it just an extension of the forlorn hope that we should all love our fellow man and get along in a peaceful, caring world.
My post was merely pointing out that Pearce had brought the issue to the attention of the umpire. I'm not sure of the point of your post.
I don't think anybody has disagreed that what Minson said was wrong, its just that Pearce's reaction has been way over what you would expect. Pearce dobbed to the umpire and he and his family have brought the matter front and centre to the public's attention.
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The point of my post, in the video the umpire is right there and can obviously hear what Minson said. If you want to think Pearce called over the umpire (even though he is already there), watch the extended footage and point it out to me.
The only time Pearce has been in the media was after Minson's press conference. He didn't talk with the media before hand, Minson got to have his say.
Still not sure what Pearce did wrong, should he have stopped wrestling with Minson so the umpire didn't hear Minson?
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Is this the written equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going lalalalala?
The article I posted says that Pearce brought the sledging to the attention of the umpire. If you don't like it, take it up with The Age.
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If the umpire heard what you are saying Will said, there is no way the AFL would have let it be a club sanctioned suspension, especially of only a week. It would have gone through the tribunal.
Whereas if he heard what Will says he said, then it makes much more sense.
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I give you video footage and the AFL statement, you gave me a journalist's take on it?
What would the equivalent of that be, covering your eyes?
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The AFL did not suspend Minson for telling Kane he should go home his son is dying. You can pick which comment is worse.
If you want to think Minson said I rooted your mum last night that is fine. Don't know why Minson would tear up at his press conference over that.
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Was an umpire standing right next to him when he said it, in 08? If not, then it's a completely different scenario.
Because on Sunday, and as you have pointed out several times, the umpire is right there. It wouldn't have been let go by the AFL, and you can guarantee that.
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McGinnity got a week for his comment to Pettard last year. It involved the R word and his mum and the Eagles gave him the suspension. I remember Pettard telling the umpire, but I don't remember if the ump said he heard it himself. I'm not saying Will used that word though, we can only go off what has been reported.
I think if he did use that word, it would have come out by now. Everybody knew exactly what McGinnity had said by the next day.
