www.findagrave.com
Yes!
And Charles McCartney has been researched earlier as well in this thread - seems fairly clear that he died in Colac in May 1949 but not clear from the thread whether anyone informed AFL - Rhett requested that it be done separately but not sure it ever happened...
Maybe that explains it! The AFL guys really should be aware of this thread's existence, and check in on it every now and then, especially as they have asked us to help out with some of these mystery cases. I know the same old names have been brought up in recent weeks in that section of the Football Record, so maybe there are other cases that pretty much have been solved in this thread but they just aren't aware of it? They were notified of the recent Bob Burns DOD discovery via the Collingwood club historian.
I'll add McCartney to the next email spreadsheet for SR to read. But he advised me to hold off sending anything further to him to at least end of year. So not much more I can do about that, unless he stumbled across this thread/post in the meantime
Rhett, I know this isn't your fault in any way, but we've got Col H. appealing for people to come forward with information on these players, while we have his colleague Steve R. saying "don't send us anything for the next year or so"!! Something is a bit messed up with that! But once again, they should be monitoring this thread.
Look, Im happy for you to make Col aware yourself in the meantime if you want.
I'm not sure about the accuracy of the detail on Michael Joseph O'Hagan born 22 January 1878. He doesn't seem to appear on any Ancestry trees as the son of John O'Hagan (1845-1882) and Mary Ann O'Hagan (-1891).
Vic BDM confirms that a Michael Joseph O'Hagan was born to John O'Hagan (1845-1882) and Mary Ann O'Hagan, nee Creed, (~1850-1891) in early 1878 - ref VIC BDM 1878/1116 - they had five children - not all of whom seem to appear in Ancestry trees....
Actually I think I am wrong about that - looking at the school article again - his contemporaries include Tom Fogarty (born 21 March 1878) and Patrick Phillip Smithwick (born 31 Aug 1877) - I think this is likely to be the same person as the player identified by the AFL - they must have matriculated at around age 15-16 in the 1870s
It's something I will never understand! I do appreciate that the AFL chaps must have projects/regular tasks they're meant to be working on, but if decent evidence is found that the records have the wrong player listed as having played a game, or that someone has been completely misidentified in the records (e.g. wrong name, DOB, DOD) then surely that is so important that it shouldn't have to wait for anything?!Yes, messed up alright, very disappointing !
We appreciate the updates received from SR e.g. the just announced news of Alex Mathieson's passing...
but we're not allowed to pass on updates and amendments we have found "for the next year or so."
With ColH, SR; and M Lovett at the Season Guide apparently not talking to each other, or just not bothering to update details in a consistent way, the AFL information superhighway has a lot of potholes in it.
Thanks for that. This appears to be the last sighting of Mick O'Hagan on Trove:
This post from a couple of years ago shows that AFL believe that Bill Woods is not the one described in Wikipedia page - they have him as a half brother of Ike Woods
From this week's Football Record:
I'll email Col H on this - I was the one in 2017 who tracked him down and I have both his and his son's email addresses. He was alive and well and living in Qld at that point. In their emails they confirmed DOB was 1925 so I think this might be a typo in the Record
www.bigfooty.com
have just had a response from one of the Howman tree owners on Ancestry...asked him to clarify detail incl exact DOD, so perhaps we'll be able to finalise this one soon !
