Opinion "Mission accomplished"

[Heckler]

Everyone is so mean to me on here. I guess some people can't handle a difference in opinion.

I wouldn't care if you had a different opinion
But you don't have an opinion at all.
You certainly haven't shared it with us.
I wouldn't care if you were at least
ironic, sardonic, witty, satirical or jibing
but those traits elude you also
Not even a decent insult thrown
from a skilled tosser like yourself.
Finally you failed to make a point
Not even a sharp observation
Despite stabbing repeatedly
you only managed self inflicted harm.

All you did is whine whine whine
then again... your avatar is an ass.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

I wouldn't care if you had a different opinion
But you don't have an opinion at all.
You certainly haven't shared it with us.
I wouldn't care if you were at least
ironic, sardonic, witty, satirical or jibing
but those traits elude you also
Not even a decent insult thrown
from a skilled tosser like yourself.
Finally you failed to make a point
Not even a sharp observation
Despite stabbing repeatedly
you only managed self inflicted harm.

All you did is whine whine whine
then again... your avatar is an ass.

Bojack is a horse.

 

[Supercats]

When Chris "Ayres" Scott took to his post-match press conference in round 22, after conceding ten straight goals to the Hawks, he knew it was clear that the mission he had embarked on at the beginning of the year would come to fruition.

A top four spot had been consolidated, and a first week matchup against the Hawks was likely, so the cards had certainly fallen into place. With confidence, the first words to come from his mouth were, "mission accomplished".

And what did this ambiguous exclamation mean, exactly? The media and Geelong supporters alike were baffled. With a wry smile and a glint in his eye, Scott would not divulge what he was talking about, but he knew it would happen.

His mission, as we now know, was to take this side to the first straight sets exit since 2007, thus driving the final nail in the coffin of the greatest side of the modern era. "Take that, Bomber Thompson", he thought. It wasn't easy, of course, with the likes of Joel Selwood and Tom Hawkins trying their hardest to win, but he was confident that he had adequately quelled the hunger and confidence of most other players, old and new, and he was confident that, when the heat was on, his team would crumble. Vindication for Christ Scott. His mission has been accomplished.

So BB, i bet your actually 4ft and trying to compensate for your lack of height.

I also think you were trying to be witty, well as you can tell from the response you have failed.

You state it was your opinion, can you bold the bit which indicates your opinion.

Also just to show you lack knowledge Ayres and Scott are miles apart in there philosophy in retiring players.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

So BB, i bet your actually 4ft and trying to compensate for your lack of height.

Don't see what height has to do anything. Quite an odd comment.

I also think you were trying to be witty, well as you can tell from the response you have failed.

The responses are about what I expected.

You state it was your opinion, can you bold the bit which indicates your opinion.

My opinion is that I'm not too fond of Scott, and I'm especially not fond of the way he often conducts himself in the media. I thought that was pretty clear from the OP. Sorry if it wasn't.

 

[David the Cat]

Honestly, the OP should give himself an uppercut and give it away.

Finding something I agreed with him about in 43 pages of game day thread was impossible.

NFI.

 

[xtatik222k]

Don't see what height has to do anything. Quite an odd comment.


The responses are about what I expected.


My opinion is that I'm not too fond of Scott, and I'm especially not fond of the way he often conducts himself in the media. I thought that was pretty clear from the OP. Sorry if it wasn't.

Wow. I should probably spend more (or less...?) time on BF, because I've never come across you before. You should probably have a couple of drinks and drive home or something. Then maybe put your electric blanket on, but don't turn it off before you go to bed. Maybe put something in the oven and don't turn it off. Don't worry about changing the batteries in your smoke detectors when they run out, by the way. You'll be fine. Also, next time you're on the free-way and you're looking to overtake on a dodgy 50/50 strip of road, just go for it. You'll be fine. If you smoke or drink to excess, keep doing it.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Wow. I should probably spend more (or less...?) time on BF, because I've never come across you before.

So you want me to post more, then...? Suggestion taken on board.

You should probably have a couple of drinks and drive home or something. Then maybe put your electric blanket on, but don't turn it off before you go to bed. Maybe put something in the oven and don't turn it off. Don't worry about changing the batteries in your smoke detectors when they run out, by the way. You'll be fine. Also, next time you're on the free-way and you're looking to overtake on a dodgy 50/50 strip of road, just go for it. You'll be fine. If you smoke or drink to excess, keep doing it.

So you want me to kill myself? Gee, that's nice of you, mate. Certainly a reasonable response to a jocular post on a footy forum about the coach of an AFL team. Top bloke.

Honestly, the OP should give himself an uppercut and give it away.

Finding something I agreed with him about in 43 pages of game day thread was impossible.

NFI.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[xtatik222k]

So you want me to kill myself?

Geez, you're quick. (bet you've heard that a lot) *ignored*

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Geez, you're quick. (bet you've heard that a lot) *ignored*

Yeah, telling someone they should die and then ignoring them. What a class act. You're clearly my moral superior. How dare I share my thoughts on this football forum. People such as myself clearly don't deserve to live. I'm sorry that what I have posted has offended you and disrupted your usual posting habits on here, sir.

Maybe I will go and do one of those things you suggested.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Yeah, telling someone they should die and then ignoring them. What a class act. You're clearly my moral superior. How dare I share my thoughts on this football forum. People such as myself clearly don't deserve to live. I'm sorry that what I have posted has offended you and disrupted your usual posting habits on here, sir.

Maybe I will go and do one of those things you suggested.

given Chris Scott has recently been re-signed by the club BB, how do you think we can push forward?
don't you agree that it'll just take a year or so of copping our knocks while the younger players learn the ropes?
we might've just seen the very catalyst that will spur the like of Guthrie/Caddy/Motlop onto greater things

 

[cynical]

Apart from 2011 Chris Scott has been rubbish.

Really should be in politics.

 

[Partridge]

I nominate that along with 'Poster of the year' this year we have a 'worst poster of the year' and they get a 12 month ban

Biggy_Boy gets my nomination

Make it happen mods

Disagree entirely. He's not abusing anyone personally (unlike PLENTY on here), and he's entitled to his opinion. Not everyone has to blindly think that everything the club does is perfect.

 

[winty]

Everyone is so mean to me on here. I guess some people can't handle a difference in opinion.

I'm sure 95% of posters on this board can handle differences in opinion. Personally, that's what I like about this board. Most of the time we can have vibrant discussions on here and from what I've seen it's usually balanced and cordial.

Can't speak for others here, but I get the perception that whenever things are going well in games or periods of the season, we rarely, if ever, see you post. As soon as things go downhill though, you come in and start bagging the coach, and pretty much say the same things over and over again. I can remember game threads where we've been 4-5 goals up at half-time and you haven't posted, but as soon as the opposition get a run-on after half time, you magically appear and get stuck into the coach. It gets tedious after a while.

We know meto isn't a fan of Varcoe, but even he was man enough to give credit where it's due and admit Trav had a good game last week. I don't think I've ever seen you compliment Scott when he's done something right.

I understand you feel the coach isn't doing a good job, and I agree there were quite a few things we could've, and probably should've, done differently last night (not selecting Bews to play was probably at the top of a rather long list), but to come in week after week and say stuff like "sack the coach" without adding anything constructive tends to get old pretty quick.

 

[Partridge]

Out of interest, how would you have done things better over the last month or so if you were in Scott's shoes Biggy_Boy?

Well for starters:

- Stick to boring cliches in press conferences.
- Grow some testicles and drop Kelly, and play Jed Bews - an ACTUAL SMALL DEFENDER - instead.
- Do what some of us said, and rest veterans strategically through the season. Especially in the backline. We managed to notice that the 3 game block against Bulldogs, Melbourne and GWS would have been perfect to rest each of Rivers, Lonergan and Taylor for a game each and given Brown (or another option) 3 games. Didn't happen.
- Don't trust any player when it comes to injuries, and never ever trust Steve Johnson at all.
- Maybe the next time you recruit a ruckman, don't fall for the "28-years-old-and-injury-prone" package.
- Stop assuming that guys whose bodies are in pieces (Menzel, Cowan, McIntosh, Simpson) are going to be fine magically in March.
- Oh yes, very important. PUT MORE GAMES INTO YOUNG PLAYERS. Not just the ones you love.

 

[winty]

Well for starters:

- Stick to boring cliches in press conferences.
- Grow some testicles and drop Kelly, and play Jed Bews - an ACTUAL SMALL DEFENDER - instead.
- Do what some of us said, and rest veterans strategically through the season. Especially in the backline. We managed to notice that the 3 game block against Bulldogs, Melbourne and GWS would have been perfect to rest each of Rivers, Lonergan and Taylor for a game each and given Brown (or another option) 3 games. Didn't happen.
- Don't trust any player when it comes to injuries, and never ever trust Steve Johnson at all.
- Maybe the next time you recruit a ruckman, don't fall for the "28-years-old-and-injury-prone" package.
- Stop assuming that guys whose bodies are in pieces (Menzel, Cowan, McIntosh, Simpson) are going to be fine magically in March.
- Oh yes, very important. PUT MORE GAMES INTO YOUNG PLAYERS. Not just the ones you love.

Pretty much agree with all that.

 

[romeoh]

Well for starters:

- Stick to boring cliches in press conferences.
- Grow some testicles and drop Kelly, and play Jed Bews - an ACTUAL SMALL DEFENDER - instead.
- Do what some of us said, and rest veterans strategically through the season. Especially in the backline. We managed to notice that the 3 game block against Bulldogs, Melbourne and GWS would have been perfect to rest each of Rivers, Lonergan and Taylor for a game each and given Brown (or another option) 3 games. Didn't happen.
- Don't trust any player when it comes to injuries, and never ever trust Steve Johnson at all.
- Maybe the next time you recruit a ruckman, don't fall for the "28-years-old-and-injury-prone" package.
- Stop assuming that guys whose bodies are in pieces (Menzel, Cowan, McIntosh, Simpson) are going to be fine magically in March.
- Oh yes, very important. PUT MORE GAMES INTO YOUNG PLAYERS. Not just the ones you love.

Think the management and merging of young players has been fine. Lost of young guys getting games. You can't play them all at once and really do Mackie, Enright and co warrant dropping on their form?
Kelly has actually played well for a lot of this year. He has had a lousy last 6 weeks or so.
No probs with boring cliches in conferences though.
He got trusting Stevie wrong.McInTosh wrong.
Not sure he, or any of us has any expectations that Menzel will magically be fine. But gee wouldn't it have been nice to watch him play these last couple of years.

 

[cynical]

Well for starters:

- Stick to boring cliches in press conferences.
- Grow some testicles and drop Kelly, and play Jed Bews - an ACTUAL SMALL DEFENDER - instead.
- Do what some of us said, and rest veterans strategically through the season. Especially in the backline. We managed to notice that the 3 game block against Bulldogs, Melbourne and GWS would have been perfect to rest each of Rivers, Lonergan and Taylor for a game each and given Brown (or another option) 3 games. Didn't happen.
- Don't trust any player when it comes to injuries, and never ever trust Steve Johnson at all.
- Maybe the next time you recruit a ruckman, don't fall for the "28-years-old-and-injury-prone" package.
- Stop assuming that guys whose bodies are in pieces (Menzel, Cowan, McIntosh, Simpson) are going to be fine magically in March.
- Oh yes, very important. PUT MORE GAMES INTO YOUNG PLAYERS. Not just the ones you love.

- not playing Smedts when he is injured and/or has little form.
- Playing Kersten for about a month too long when he was clearly out of gas. (Both Brown and Walker were good in their last few games)
- Not dropping Murdoch
- Playing 3 rucks instead of playing tall forwards
- giving list cloggers like Sheringham and Stringer games over other options
- bringing back players too early from injury
- not having contingencies
- always playing 3 KPD + Mackie instead of adding extra smalls at times

 

[winty]

Think the management and merging of young players has been fine. Lost of young guys getting games. You can't play them all at once and really do Mackie, Enright and co warrant dropping on their form?
Kelly has actually played well for a lot of this year. He has had a lousy last 6 weeks or so.
No probs with boring cliches in conferences though.
He got trusting Stevie wrong.McInTosh wrong.
Not sure he, or any of us has any expectations that Menzel will magically be fine. But gee wouldn't it have been nice to watch him play these last couple of years.

I'd say Mackie did. His last 3 weeks have been way below par for him.

That passage of play in the last term last night when Dal Santo found himself free 55m out from North's goal which, IIRC, resulted in Ziebell's 1st goal, was a result of Mackie sagging off his man and not paying him any respect - something he seemed to do all too often since the Brisbane game.

 

[Willo_]

Disagree entirely. He's not abusing anyone personally (unlike PLENTY on here), and he's entitled to his opinion. Not everyone has to blindly think that everything the club does is perfect.

And not everyone does.

I certainly don't think it's all perfect. But I also don't only appear when we get beaten ready, willing and almost gleefully kicking the sinking the boots in

A bit of anything constructive would be nice occasionally instead of 'rabble rabble Chapman rabble rabble sack Scott rabble rabble'

 

[romeoh]

- not playing Smedts when he is injured and/or has little form.
- Playing Kersten for about a month too long when he was clearly out of gas. (Both Brown and Walker were good in their last few games)
- Not dropping Murdoch
- Playing 3 rucks instead of playing tall forwards
- giving list cloggers like Sheringham and Stringer games over other options
- bringing back players too early from injury
- not having contingencies
- always playing 3 KPD + Mackie instead of adding extra smalls at times

Wow the list of Scot's failings is a long one indeed.
How the heck did we get to finish 3rd?
And in a time of transition, an unfortunate run with injuries, and some real limitations to our list.

 

[romeoh]

I'd say Mackie did. His last 3 weeks have been way below par for him.

That passage of play in the last term last night when Dal Santo found himself free 55m out from North's goal which, IIRC, resulted in Ziebell's 1st goal, was a result of Mackie sagging off his man and not paying him any respect - something he seemed to do all too often since the Brisbane game.

Yep ok he has been average the last few weeks but he was fine before then. I reckon he is playing injured so maybe that should have sent him for a rest.

 

[Willo_]

- not playing Smedts when he is injured and/or has little form.
- Playing Kersten for about a month too long when he was clearly out of gas. (Both Brown and Walker were good in their last few games)
- Not dropping Murdoch

Can't argue with any of these... I still have no idea what Smedts has done to warrant a game ever... and its not to say he won't make it but he has never really 'deserved' his games has he

Walker showed signs last night and to be honest I thought Brown played well, people that question his hardness have no idea... He was throwing himself in recklessly at packs and tackles. Wouldn't mind seeing how either he or Walker would have gone getting a run of games gifted to them as Kersten was.

And on Murda, I'm torn... don't think he has the brain for it to be honest, but has the physical tools... is only young so I'm not prepared to go too hard.. yet

 

[Willo_]

Maybe this thread title should be changed to 'the airing of grievances'

Is it festivus yet?

 

[winty]

Yep ok he has been average the last few weeks but he was fine before then. I reckon he is playing injured so maybe that should have sent him for a rest.

I would've dropped him for Bews, and put Bews on Thomas and played Kelly further up the ground. Bews did a good job on Thomas earlier in the year, and I would've backed him in to do the same last night.

 

[romeoh]

I would've dropped him for Bews, and put Bews on Thomas and played Kelly further up the ground. Bews did a good job on Thomas earlier in the year, and I would've backed him in to do the same last night.

Yep I thought they would play Bews. Ah well. Look forward to seeing him in the 22 every week next year.