Mitch Brown

[Skerret]

Does he remind anyone - other than me - of Bazza Stoneham? Great read of the play, slight frame for size, beautiful kick and great mark - just best by untimely injuries.

Certainly shares some similarities but Barry was near on 100kg when playing, had plenty of weight to throw around.

 

[Gaz_Brownlow]

Judge after 30-50 games at AFL level like everyone else.

People seem to still think that all good players are identifiable from their first season. Remember Ablett, Bartel, and Stevie J amongst many others took at least 3 seasons to really establish themselves and start playing reasonable football. Forwards take longer.

 

[hbk_aus]

Dropped again. Must be difficult to Find and develop a role when u are in and out of the side so much. Would like to see him get a run of games but can't see it happening now for the rest of this season.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Dropped again. Must be difficult to Find and develop a role when u are in and out of the side so much. Would like to see him get a run of games but can't see it happening now for the rest of this season.

yeah a bit puzzling and disappointing in some ways - I understand why the match committee made the decision, but not sure if I agree with it.

anyway thanks to all those who have replied so far, as I said in the OP I rarely actually start threads and feared I might get donuts as far as replies go - instead I got a typically interesting spread of thoughts and views

 

[meto]

Just don't think he's gonna make it now, doubt if they'll wait for him to find some extra muscle weight, unfortunately for him reckon they'll let him go.

 

[Stig_90]

I think they'll keep him on the list, but if Walker comes in and lights it up I would be very worried if I were Browny.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Just don't think he's gonna make it now, doubt if they'll wait for him to find some extra muscle weight, unfortunately for him reckon they'll let him go.

I would be very surprised if Brown was simply 'let go' after the investment the club has put into him.
He was our first round draft pick in 2008.
Broke his leg in 2009 so was behind the 8-ball, the year was a write-off.
2010 was devoted to rehabilitating his leg, getting used to AFL training, playing against men in the VFL, that kind of thing - the guy was never going to step straight into AFL footy, broken leg or not, he was always going to need a fair bit of time to bulk up and get his body AFL-ready. He was doing about as well as could be hoped for when he injured his shoulder mid-way through the season and that was that.
2011, made a debut, shoulder wrecked again the following week.

So he really has had very little chance to get any continuity with his football, much less get his body to the point where it can endure a full AFL season.

I would be shocked to see him delisted, pretty surprised to see him traded or shopped around.
I reckon the club has stuck by him and been patient and he will start to show something in 2013.

 

[manboob]

He's an overly tall forward flanker. Our forward line has been a mess all year so I don't think its fair for him to come in and be expected to be a cure-all.

 

[Scottland2007]

Tenace was a first round draft pick, then let go after 5 years. Sometimes first round draft picks don't make it.

 

[krisholio14]

He is a curious player, lovely skills and reads the play nicely but I doubt there is a worse contested mark 190cm key forward in the entire league. He actually has no idea how to go for the ball in a pack situation. I'd love to see more of him because there is a good player in there but he has some work to do.

Are you kidding me? He's got some of the best dukes i've ever seen when it comes to taking one grabbers.

He reminds me a lot of Mackie at a similar age - albeit with a bit more height. Mackie was our young promising key position forward, I think he kicked 3 goals in his 2nd or 3rd game, pretty agile, decent mark. Then for 2 or three years he looked like he was going nowhere. I think they moved him onto a wing for a year, he had a decent season and found his feet at the level, then was switched into the back line. He's certainly ended up a very good player for us, albeit not as the KPF we drafted.

Perhaps he needs a year on a half-back flank to settle into the team??

He certainly has the talent, he might take a while, but he is only going to get there with experience.

The Mackie analogy is interesting. I always thought Mackie would make a better wingman/flanker type than a KPP. I see Mitch Brown as a player who could be used in a similar role. He'd create all kinds of match up headaches.

 

[krisholio14]

Tenace was a first round draft pick, then let go after 5 years. Sometimes first round draft picks don't make it.

The only way Mitch Brown won't make it is if he snaps in half a la Bruce Reid. And given his luck with injuries over the last few years that isn't out of the question.

 

[Footy Smarts]

He actually played pretty well last week. Definitely didn't look out of place. Him being dropped is more about his body shape not being suited to a tough wet weather game and needing Walker's ruck chop-out ability than poor form. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't play at least 2-3 more AFL games this year.

There's simply no way we're going to get rid of him this year. Actually I'd be shocked if he was delisted next year even if he doesn't progress too much. There's simply no reason he can't become a very solid lead-up forward like Mooney or a very good shut-down defender like Lonergan.

You don't just throw away talent for no reason. A number of people were saying Motlop was in trouble last year and look at him now. Brown as a tall player will take longer and he's had even worse injury set backs than Motlop. Give him till 40-50 games and then we can make a judgment on him.

 

[meto]

Trouble with leaving Brown on the list is Wells and Co might pass over a Jack Darling type cause we're carrying the added 196cm player in Brown on the books.

He could end up causing more damage than we realise cause we miss a great potential tall like a Sam Day.
Giving him more time is killing us!

 

[Partridge]

Tenace was a first round draft pick, then let go after 5 years. Sometimes first round draft picks don't make it.

Ah well there you go then. One first round draft pick didn't make it, therefore we should delist Brown forthwith (even though he actually looked good last week).

Any evidence for this? I presume then Vardy should go as well, he hasn't played for a year. Clearly finished.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Trouble with leaving Brown on the list is Wells and Co might pass over a Jack Darling type cause we're carrying the added 196cm player in Brown on the books.

He could end up causing more damage than we realise cause we miss a great potential tall like a Sam Day.
Giving him more time is killing us!

Ridiculous post. Everybody knows talls take far longer than smalls. If went down that route we wouldn't have West, Lonergan, Hawkins, Scarlett or Simpson on the list. None of those had done much by the stage Brown is at.

Considering Hogan and Byrnes are almost certain delistings and we'll have 3-4 more retirements there's going to be plenty of spots on the list. Not to mention that there's probably 5 other players minimum who would be cut before Brown.

 

[Partridge]

Trouble with leaving Brown on the list is Wells and Co might pass over a Jack Darling type cause we're carrying the added 196cm player in Brown on the books.

He could end up causing more damage than we realise cause we miss a great potential tall like a Sam Day.
Giving him more time is killing us!

It's been said before, I'll say it again. How many games has this guy played? 5? 6?

I want every Geelong supporter advocating this insanity to look at every player on our list and see exactly how promising they were after that amount of time. Some were pretty hard to watch in their early days. Thankfully, because the club is not run by us and is run by professionals, they give them time to mature and develop. So a complete dud like Lonergan matures into a key defender who shut down Travis Cloke in a Grand Final. You get a maligned key forward like Hawkins mature into a contested marking machine in the same game. That's what happens when you are patient and don't make idiotic judgements after 10 games or less.

 

[cynical]

Brown has great skills and footy smarts for a big man no way would we get rid of him any time soon.

We have a heap of guys to retire/delist at the end of the year so I don't think there would be any list management issues.

Even if the guy can't bulk up much more at worst we have an Andrew Mackie type player.

2013 he'll be playing every week unless injured.

 

[magicmarker]

Wasn't he in the same draft as Jack Watts, and played alongside him as a junior?? Watts isn't exactly tearing games apart as yet, he is more advanced at this stage than Mitch, but he was also the #1 draft pick.

Give him time and Mitch is going to be very good player for us. I think the club knows this and there is next to no chance he will be de-listed.

 

[Claude Balls]

Trouble with leaving Brown on the list is Wells and Co might pass over a Jack Darling type cause we're carrying the added 196cm player in Brown on the books.

He could end up causing more damage than we realise cause we miss a great potential tall like a Sam Day.
Giving him more time is killing us!

Meto, seriously, what is this rubbish?

 

[hbk_aus]

It's been said before, I'll say it again. How many games has this guy played? 5? 6?

I want every Geelong supporter advocating this insanity to look at every player on our list and see exactly how promising they were after that amount of time. Some were pretty hard to watch in their early days. Thankfully, because the club is not run by us and is run by professionals, they give them time to mature and develop. So a complete dud like Lonergan matures into a key defender who shut down Travis Cloke in a Grand Final. You get a maligned key forward like Hawkins mature into a contested marking machine in the same game. That's what happens when you are patient and don't make idiotic judgements after 10 games or less.

Amen.

 

[dazbroncos]

It's been said before, I'll say it again. How many games has this guy played? 5? 6?

I want every Geelong supporter advocating this insanity to look at every player on our list and see exactly how promising they were after that amount of time. Some were pretty hard to watch in their early days. Thankfully, because the club is not run by us and is run by professionals, they give them time to mature and develop. So a complete dud like Lonergan matures into a key defender who shut down Travis Cloke in a Grand Final. You get a maligned key forward like Hawkins mature into a contested marking machine in the same game. That's what happens when you are patient and don't make idiotic judgements after 10 games or less.

Perfect post... just perfect Partridge. Don't always agree with you but credit where it is due. Spot on!

Go Catters

 

[Scottland2007]

Ah well there you go then. One first round draft pick didn't make it, therefore we should delist Brown forthwith (even though he actually looked good last week).

Any evidence for this? I presume then Vardy should go as well, he hasn't played for a year. Clearly finished.

Evidence of what? Tenace was on the list for five years before he was delisted. The few times Vardy has played he had looked very good. I don't think Mitch will make it as a forward. I think the Mackie analogy is very good. I think Mitch is more suited to the wing or defense. Having said that, I am not an Afl coach.

 

[Lager]

If it's decided at Mitch is a dud, then fine, de-list him (not that I think he is a dud, in fact I think he has a very bright future given time). The problem is we don't know yet how how he's going to turn out until he has a decent run in the 1's. The Tenace comparison is ridiculous - Kane played 59 senior games for us before it was decided by the club (not the BF community; we pass negative judgment far earlier than the club) that he was not going to improve - give Mitch 59 games before reaching the same conclusion.

 

[vinum coupe]

Just don't think he's gonna make it now, doubt if they'll wait for him to find some extra muscle weight, unfortunately for him reckon they'll let him go.

Absolutely no way.
Jeez Meto you're the one that bangs on about us not drafting talls.

I really like the spaces that he was running to last week.
And I think people might not be noticing how good his skills are for a tall. He is actually quite silky. So silky that you don't notice anything when he kicks.

He grew quickly and then didn't really get a chance to adjust to it before continual injuries.
Sure he'll be in and out of the side a bit. But that's more reflective of where we are right now.

He'll be fine.

 

[Partridge]

Evidence of what? Tenace was on the list for five years before he was delisted. The few times Vardy has played he had looked very good. I don't think Mitch will make it as a forward. I think the Mackie analogy is very good. I think Mitch is more suited to the wing or defense. Having said that, I am not an Afl coach.

That's what I'm looking for evidence of. My view is that it's still far too early to tell. I think unlike Mackie he might put some muscle on as he develops.