Mitch Clark

[Balony_pony16]

In comparison yes, however both of those were monumental stuff ups.

pick 15-16 which is what Freo will roughly have IMO is fair compo. Perhaps a fringe player that Brisbane may be interested in to sweeten the deal too but not a "quality youngster" like it is reported they are seeking i.e. Zac Clarke.

Don't get me wrong, Brisbane should play hard ball and try and extract as much as they can but at the end of the day, if push came to shove, I think they would accept Freo's first rounder and do the deal.

I doubt the lions would settle with pick 16 in this weak draft as both sides will know its value is pretty weak, and yeah I do see your point regarding young guns like clarke. It will be a very interesting trade when it unfolds wit what extra Freo may give up.

 

[theGav56]

I doubt the lions would settle with pick 16 in this weak draft as both sides will know its value is pretty weak, and yeah I do see your point regarding young guns like clarke. It will be a very interesting trade when it unfolds wit what extra Freo may give up.

You are so far behind the debate it is laughable. The draft is shallow. That is, the quality drops away after the 1st round. Nothing wrong with the first round.

I struggle to see Lions getting more than our first pick and a fringe player. More likely first pick.

 

[theGav56]

not worth it...but the lions have a lack of talent and a heap of cap space in the coming years, so they can and have matched any offer from freo. Personally I will be happy that we can get a good trade from freo and avoid paying overs for a player

I understand that all clubs bar Freo have baulked at clarks asking price...the fact is that Freo are set to pay overs for clark in a attempt to win a premiership...sounds like a "crazy voss" concept doesn't it?

You continually put up arguments that in fact see him coming to Freo cheaper and cheaper.

 

[theGav56]

What's to stop Gold coast picking him up with pick one in the psd? If you want him you'll have to pit a reasonable trade. Your first rounder will be the absolute minimum.

I doubt if the saga will get to PSD, but round 1 seems reasonable to me. Interesting to see how it pans out.

 

[raffrox]

I thought if Freo had wins go their way and they ended up with pick 12 it would have been...dropping to pick 16 just puts that bit of doubt that it may not be enough...remembering that Players like TJ & brock did cost pick 12 or so, I would think that Clark would have more currency?

But history has shown that the Lions and Carlton paid overs in those deals.

Why should we do the same?

For what its worth I agree that it cost us our first round pick for Clark but if media reports are correct and the Lions are asking for our first round pick and Zac Clarke...well Mitch is all yours fella's.

Brisbane have to realise that Mitch is out of contract and if the price is higher than our first rounder and change (3rd rounder maybe as well) then Freo should walk away.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Freo fans have to realize that Brisbane would be stupid not to put a high price on him that way they should get the best deal possible. Freo fans should also realize that they don't actually trade for the club so it is really what your club thinks Clark is worth not what you think he is worth. Freo fans should also realize your club actually wants to sign Clark.... Thicker than pig shit you lot.

 

[dlanod]

In comparison yes, however both of those were monumental stuff ups.

pick 15-16 which is what Freo will roughly have IMO is fair compo. Perhaps a fringe player that Brisbane may be interested in to sweeten the deal too but not a "quality youngster" like it is reported they are seeking i.e. Zac Clarke.

Don't get me wrong, Brisbane should play hard ball and try and extract as much as they can but at the end of the day, if push came to shove, I think they would accept Freo's first rounder and do the deal.

Yeah, I'm interpreting that as a opening gambit. Start off with something you don't expect to receive and negotiate from there. Freo would probably come to the table offering a second round pick and negotiate up.

 

[Balony_pony16]

But history has shown that the Lions and Carlton paid overs in those deals.

Why should we do the same?

For what its worth I agree that it cost us our first round pick for Clark but if media reports are correct and the Lions are asking for our first round pick and Zac Clarke...well Mitch is all yours fella's.

Brisbane have to realise that Mitch is out of contract and if the price is higher than our first rounder and change (3rd rounder maybe as well) then Freo should walk away.

seriously, then what he goes into the PSD or stays at the lions? Yep the Lions have no bargaining powers

freo have to pay up for clark and wont get him cheap...deal with it.

Now start suggesting possible draft sweeteners on top of the 1st round pick? and try and be constructive and mature about it freo supporters

 

[Balony_pony16]

Freo fans have to realize that Brisbane would be stupid not to put a high price on him that way they should get the best deal possible. Freo fans should also realize that they don't actually trade for the club so it is really what your club thinks Clark is worth not what you think he is worth. Freo fans should also realize your club actually wants to sign Clark.... Thicker than pig shit you lot.

yep freo must be a strange club...on 1 side they are set to give clark a huge 500k+ contract...BUT HOLD ON!!!!! we can trade for him cheaply because he isnt worth much!

Seriously!

 

[Franco]

If Freo do go after Mitch, than I they would probably try to off load Griffin to Port and I would imagine the sweetener would be the compensation for trading Griffin.

Apart from that I don't think Freo have much more to offer because I doubt they will trade any of their young players from their core group. Unless you want a late third round draft pick because I couldn't see Freo giving Brisbane their first and second round draft picks.

 

[Bucking Beads]

I think you could be on the money Franco. Makes some sense.

 

[raffrox]

seriously, then what he goes into the PSD or stays at the lions? Yep the Lions have no bargaining powers

freo have to pay up for clark and wont get him cheap...deal with it.

Now start suggesting possible draft sweeteners on top of the 1st round pick? and try and be constructive and mature about it freo supporters

Get real.

I'm not Bond, Harvey or anyone else associated with the club.

I don't have to say jack.

You realise that this is an internet message board and not really the boardrooms at trade week don't you?

 

[Balony_pony16]

Get real.

I'm not Bond, Harvey or anyone else associated with the club.

I don't have to say jack.

You realise that this is an internet message board and not really the boardrooms at trade week don't you?

yep, well how about you start adding to conversation of potential trades instead of trying to convince yourself that freo will get away with trading nothin

I have been hopeing to hear opinions from freo supporters of possible trades that we could expect with fringe players involved, but all I see is the same rubbish eagle supporters were putting up with their dreams of trading for rich for nothin based on the idea that he would come cheap just because he was alleged to request a trade

seriously

 

[tigs2010]

Would think Brissy are aiming higher than they expect to get with 1st and a good player. Freo will probably offer their 1st. Then something in between will be negotiated on.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

I think the point with the PSD thing is not that he will last to Freo, but that Brisbane will only lose by not doing a deal with Freo.

You fellas aren't in a position the play hardball, much the same as we were with Warnock. We all thought he was worth more than a 2nd round pick + scraps, but we really weren't in the position to call the shots. We faced the decision between get what we are offered, or he walks into the PSD.

Brisbane are in the same position.

It's a pretty clear cut swap for our first pick. We couldn't ask for more than picking up a player of his ability/potential with pick 16, especially with somewhat less of the lottery risk, and Brisbane really shouldn't be asking anything more than a 1st round pick for a guy who doesn't want to be there, has only really played 1 good year of footy, is out of contract, and has somewhat of an injury could over him.

Anything more than our 1st round and Brisbane win, anything less and we win. Should really be locked and loaded allready, but saying that, expect the respective team clowns to push it until the last couple of hours during trade week.

Edit: We also walked away last year, so Brisbane will understand we're not going to be bent over, moreso from a strengthened bargaining position.

 

[Bucking Beads]

He will most likely stay in brissy if freo don't make a decent deal for him.

 

[Balony_pony16]

I think the point with the PSD thing is not that he will last to Freo, but that Brisbane will only lose by not doing a deal with Freo.

You fellas aren't in a position the play hardball, much the same as we were with Warnock. We all thought he was worth more than a 2nd round pick + scraps, but we really weren't in the position to call the shots. We faced the decision between get what we are offered, or he walks into the PSD.

Brisbane are in the same position.

It's a pretty clear cut swap for our first pick. We couldn't ask for more than picking up a player of his ability/potential with pick 16, especially with somewhat less of the lottery risk, and Brisbane really shouldn't be asking anything more than a 1st round pick for a guy who doesn't want to be there, has only really played 1 good year of footy, is out of contract, and has somewhat of an injury could over him.

Anything more than our 1st round and Brisbane win, anything less and we win. Should really be locked and loaded allready, but saying that, expect the respective team clowns to push it until the last couple of hours during trade week.

Edit: We also walked away last year, so Brisbane will understand we're not going to be bent over, moreso from a strengthened bargaining position.

well lets get a few things straight:
1) If Clark wants to go to PSD is a deal falls over with the lions/freo...The GWS will pick him up.
2) Should this happen the lions will get a compo selection for clark which will be at least a end of 1st rd pick over the next 5 years.
3) So the idea that Freo's pick 16 has weight because you think the lions have alot to lose with clark going into the PSD is wrong.

I would think the lions much rather a end of 1st round pick next year then freos pick 16 this year...so I think that PSD threat is a poor reason to suggest the lions have no bargainig power

 

[The Speaker]

Freo fans have to realize that Brisbane would be stupid not to put a high price on him that way they should get the best deal possible. Freo fans should also realize that they don't actually trade for the club so it is really what your club thinks Clark is worth not what you think he is worth. Freo fans should also realize your club actually wants to sign Clark.... Thicker than pig shit you lot.

You've got it the wrong way around though.

Clark wants to leave Brisbane and is out of contract, rather than being contracted and open to moving.

Therefore, Fremantle are in a stronger position. Brisbane can put a high price on him, but Clark will leave anyway.

 

[The_Panther]

surely brisbane would be happy with a first rounder. Mitch Clark a good player but no superstar.

 

[jackess]

You've got it the wrong way around though.

Clark wants to leave Brisbane and is out of contract, rather than being contracted and open to moving.

Therefore, Fremantle are in a stronger position. Brisbane can put a high price on him, but Clark will leave anyway.

Players have requested to be traded and then ended up staying. Look at Walker last year and O'Keefe a few years back.

Posters on this board need to stop acting like they know what's going on and just stick to posting their own opinion because nobody on this board know what Brisbane and Fremantle are thinking.

 

[JasRulz63]

The interesting party in all this will be GWS, and whether they'd be willing to take Clark if he ends up in the GWS. If they are, it does give Brisbane a bit more bargaining power, because if he does end up in the PSD, we'll still probably get a band 3 for him.

Unlike previous years, where if you lost someone in the PSD you were going to get nothing, with GWS around, we could still end up with something for him.

Could also mean that Clark would rather stay in Brisbane than move to GWS.

I still think a deal will be done if he really wants to go though. Probably end up being pick 16 (and maybe a fringe player) OR the Palmer compo pick, but not much more. I'm interested to see whether Brisbane will take more than 4 picks in the draft. Brisbane have 4 picks in the draft before Freo's second rounder, so they may not ask for it, if they don't plan to use it.

 

[The Speaker]

Players have requested to be traded and then ended up staying. Look at Walker last year and O'Keefe a few years back.

True.

Posters on this board need to stop acting like they know what's going on and just stick to posting their own opinion because nobody on this board know what Brisbane and Fremantle are thinking.

The problem is that if you do that, there'll be about three people posting.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Pick 16 will most likely get the trade done but we will be asking for more because we can.

 

[JasRulz63]

Pick 16 will most likely get the trade done but we will be asking for more because we can.

Be stupid not to anyway. It'll happen how it normally does, Freo want to give less, Brisbane want more, meet in middle somewhere (which will end up being around pick 16).

Any hopes of getting Zac Clarke would be living in fantasy world IMO, not without giving up a lot. Guy will be a gun, and seems to show the right attitude to wanting to improve (from the reports I've seen about him), unlike some.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Be stupid not to anyway.

Exactly, it's like selling a car. You always put more than what you think the car is worth on the ad.