Mitch Duncan on Aaron Hall

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CrowInFiji

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Why wouldn't this be a looked at?

If you elect to launch yourself into the air toward a player you should be responsible for what happens from that moment onwards. To spin 180 in the air suggests a total reckless indifference to the consequences and the safety of the other player. To then land, catching the other player high and remove them from the game, surely constitutes reckless play.

The potential for injury is there and was evidenced by Hall's removal.

This will land somewhere between a fine and 12 weeks for mine.

Discuss.
 

shintemaster

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Why wouldn't this be a looked at?

If you elect to launch yourself into the air toward a player you should be responsible for what happens from that moment onwards. To spin 180 in the air suggests a total reckless indifference to the consequences and the safety of the other player. To then land, catching the other player high and remove them from the game, surely constitutes reckless play.

The potential for injury is there and was evidenced by Hall's removal.

This will land somewhere between a fine and 12 weeks for mine.

Discuss.
Strange one. Was IMO clearly not intentional... that said, jumped at a player, turned around in mid air (arguably not showing duty of care) then hit them high. There is a fair argument that a player doing this should be responsible for the consequences when he chooses not to even maintain eye contact while jumping into a player at head level.
 

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Why wouldn't this be a looked at?

If you elect to launch yourself into the air toward a player you should be responsible for what happens from that moment onwards. To spin 180 in the air suggests a total reckless indifference to the consequences and the safety of the other player. To then land, catching the other player high and remove them from the game, surely constitutes reckless play.

The potential for injury is there and was evidenced by Hall's removal.

This will land somewhere between a fine and 12 weeks for mine.

Discuss.
Hall plays for North, no case to answer.
 

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Gets back to whole duty of care thing. Duncan (IMHO) knew he’d be hitting Hall late, hard (otherwise why would he have turned) and while Hall was unprotected (as he was disposing of the ball). And doing that has foreseeable consequences. It’s a footballing act, so I’m happy for it to classified as careless, but deserves a week.
 

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Honestly thought it was the very definition of accidental. IMO reckless is when you disregard the player's health with your action, and careless is where you're intending to make non-head contact but don't execute right. You could maybe argue it was careless, but I'm pretty sure he was desperately trying to get a finger on the ball, turned in the air, and then they collided. Awful result for Hall, but an accident.

That said... Where was the free kick umpire?! Accidental or not we should have been having a kick from the goal square.
 

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If it was a North player who hit late, he would have been reported. Geelong would have got a free kick down the ground as well.

Deserves a week or two, but won't even get looked at.
Well it was a Geelong player and there was no free kick, so... :p :D

Anyway, Duncan is a cleanskin so most likely it was entirely accidental. The biggest question is how the shadow MRO (media) are treating it.
 

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If it was a North player who hit late, he would have been reported. Geelong would have got a free kick down the ground as well.

Deserves a week or two, but won't even get looked at.
Haha are you serious? Duncan jumps up to smother the ball, he didn’t jump to bump him, purely accidental that he collided with Hall.
 

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If he was watching the ball - at all - then maybe he wouldn't have accidentally knocked out a player. Meets the definition or careless / reckless irrespective of whether it is an accident or not for mine.
 

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Haha are you serious? Duncan jumps up to smother the ball, he didn’t jump to bump him, purely accidental that he collided with Hall.
So what. He “accidentally” hit an opponent in the head who will now miss a game due to concussion. In this day and age there needs to be some kind of penalty, irrespective of intent.
 

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Well it was a Geelong player and there was no free kick, so... :p :D

Anyway, Duncan is a cleanskin so most likely it was entirely accidental. The biggest question is how the shadow MRO (media) are treating it.
Duncan has form. A late spoil on Hodge broke his arm a few years ago.

For that to not even be a downfield free is atrocious umpiring.
 

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Haha are you serious? Duncan jumps up to smother the ball, he didn’t jump to bump him, purely accidental that he collided with Hall.
So the new "bump" will be jumping in the air, turning your back and colliding with flailing limbs.

Not sure what sort of spoil he was attempting given he had his back to the player and the ball.
 

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You want strict liability?
I want consistency.

Cunnington gets a week for a bump where he didn't leave the ground, there was no obvious hit to the head and the player got up almost immediately. We took it to the tribunal and got it reduced.

Duncan jumped, turned his back, struck the head of the player who will miss a week through concussion. From every angle it looks worse than the Cunnington bump, the effect on the victim is greater, so the MRO should at least be looking at it. If he is given one or two weeks, then it should be up to Geelong whether they except the verdict or go to the tribunal.
 

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