Mitch McGovern (please read OP)

[Morning_Fog]

I'd try and sell them on Melbourne's first before ours, they are willing to pay a premium for a player who wants to go there

Judging on last years Weller trade; I’d be pushing for a straight up swap. Pick 3 for McGovern

 

[Peter Doherty]

Haha, Bolton trying to attract players to Carlton,

 

[dplggr47]

Gov + our 1st for Pick 3 ?

They traded pick 2 for Weller. I'd give them Carlton's second rounder if they really need something in return, but Gov is contracted, so I'd try for pick 3 in a straight swap.

 

[GROTTO]

Judging on last years Weller trade; I’d be pushing for a straight up swap. Pick 3 for McGovern

If we did that then I hope we would go hard for their pick 2. Give up our 1st, Melb 1st and our 2019 1st.

 

[pjcrows]

Why would Gov be disappointed with the club about him missing the GF?

 

[Morning_Fog]

If we did that then I hope we would go hard for their pick 2. Give up our 1st, Melb 1st and our 2019 1st.

You mean for pick 2 and 3?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Judging on last years Weller trade; I’d be pushing for a straight up swap. Pick 3 for McGovern

This is a different draft , no comparison

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[FR0GGY]

Its funny but not funny.

 

[SaltPeter]

Does that mean he's not quite a m8?

You've been here for 11 years and spend enough time on the Bay, not sure you need an explanation

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I must have missed what you were told?

That one of the reasons McGovern stayed was because he had a good relationship with Teague, and during negotiations the club led him to believe that Teague was staying. He got the shits when he found out this wasn't true.

The thing that has never made sense is the Carlton bit. Surely there are 16 other clubs that would pay him good money and be preferred destinations. This would in part explain it.

 

[Pugsley]

Its funny but not funny.

Too needling for you ?

 

[MRB37]

What I find kind of funny is there's zero talk, but Gibbs was 100% happy to stay at the Blues if a trade wasn't done, but there's absolutely ZERO chance Gov will and he'll definitely sit out if not traded.

 

[ATsince1973]

No it values Gov and a second round pick, likely to be 22 as securing a number 3 pick in the draft. The points system is only of value towards matching a bid on draft night, nothing more.

True of course, but it’s an ok rule-of-thumb to put against proposed trades. I love the idea of holding 3 & 8 on Draft night but I’d be asking for a sweetener somehow, maybe a swap of 2019 seconds?


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[spenze]

True of course, but it’s an ok rule-of-thumb to put against proposed trades. I love the idea of holding 3 & 8 on Draft night but I’d be asking for a sweetener somehow, maybe a swap of 2019 seconds?


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Nope, would be starting the car

 

[WaynesWorld19]

What I find kind of funny is there's zero talk, but Gibbs was 100% happy to stay at the Blues if a trade wasn't done, but there's absolutely ZERO chance Gov will and he'll definitely sit out if not traded.

I think personally there's a good chance he stays .....but if it helps to get Rankine and Rozee

 

[jbanger]

That one of the reasons McGovern stayed was because he had a good relationship with Teague, and during negotiations the club led him to believe that Teague was staying. He got the shits when he found out this wasn't true.

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obviously not as close to Teague as he thought then

 

[SaltPeter]

That one of the reasons McGovern stayed was because he had a good relationship with Teague, and during negotiations the club led him to believe that Teague was staying. He got the shits when he found out this wasn't true.

The thing that has never made sense is the Carlton bit. Surely there are 16 other clubs that would pay him good money and be preferred destinations. This would in part explain it.

Never heard that story. I thought the "go to" story that was rolled out was the couldn't pay him any more money, yet could afford to bring Gibbs into the club

 

[GROTTO]

This trade and draft period is going to end in tears for us.

 

[Tex Danger]

I think he either just had kids or is about to have kids and wanted to be close to family. We didn't lose Teague because he was disgruntled. I think he left the club on amicable terms. Here is a recent article about him.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2017-10-04/teagues-emotional-homecoming

He also clearly said in a trade radio interview he came here specifically to work with walsh

 

[GrommoT]

CARLTON’S public stance on contracted players when it refused to trade Bryce Gibbs to Adelaide in 2016 will ensure it pays a premium on Mitch McGovern.
Blues list boss Steve Silvagni refused to trade Gibbs with two years on his contract in 2016, eventually relenting the following year.
McGovern has two years left on a contract of around $650,000 a season, and will receive a pay rise on a deal that could be as long as five years on as much as $700,000-$800,000 a season.
But Silvagni made clear in late 2016 that securing a trade for multiple years on his deal took a special trade.
“When a player is in contract for two years you have to pay overs, they’re difficult to get out of clubs and they’re important to the clubs they belong to,’’ Silvagni said.
It means Adelaide will not relent on a late-teens pick for a 23-year-old contracted player who can play forward or back and has his best football ahead of him.
The Blues rank McGovern as worthy of a trade for a pick between 15-20, while Adelaide ranks him in the 10-15 range, so they are not a long way apart.
But Carlton will need to secure a priority pick as either a direct trade for McGovern or to help them secure a pick in the early teens.
The Herald Sun understands the Blues will this week lodge an official priority pick request ahead of Monday’s AFL Commission meeting.
They have picks 1, 24 (received from the Bulldogs) and 25 (received from Adelaide) then selections 65 and 73.
A mid first-round priority pick at 11 could be directly traded for McGovern or they could use an end-of-first-round priority pick (19) as part of a deal.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

This trade and draft period is going to end in tears for us.

I have the opposite feeling

 

[kulak]

I'm grappling a fraction to understand what I was told and how it fits together (or if it does).

The Teague-McGovern relationship angle but then supposedly McGovern being led to believe by the club during his negotiations that Teague was staying.

Then Gov finding out later that this wasn't true and that Teague was leaving.

??? Who knows.

That would mean that Teague didn't confide in Gov either but departing assistants tend not to flag that fact anywhere until the season is over.

Never tell your boss you are leaving until you have your next job signed.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

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obviously not as close to Teague as he thought then

As covered on last page. That's why I was interested in the timing of it all.

That would mean that Teague didn't confide in Gov either but departing assistants tend not to flag that fact anywhere until the season is over.

 

[kulak]

CARLTON’S public stance on contracted players when it refused to trade Bryce Gibbs to Adelaide in 2016 will ensure it pays a premium on Mitch McGovern.
Blues list boss Steve Silvagni refused to trade Gibbs with two years on his contract in 2016, eventually relenting the following year.
McGovern has two years left on a contract of around $650,000 a season, and will receive a pay rise on a deal that could be as long as five years on as much as $700,000-$800,000 a season.
But Silvagni made clear in late 2016 that securing a trade for multiple years on his deal took a special trade.
“When a player is in contract for two years you have to pay overs, they’re difficult to get out of clubs and they’re important to the clubs they belong to,’’ Silvagni said.
It means Adelaide will not relent on a late-teens pick for a 23-year-old contracted player who can play forward or back and has his best football ahead of him.
The Blues rank McGovern as worthy of a trade for a pick between 15-20, while Adelaide ranks him in the 10-15 range, so they are not a long way apart.
But Carlton will need to secure a priority pick as either a direct trade for McGovern or to help them secure a pick in the early teens.
The Herald Sun understands the Blues will this week lodge an official priority pick request ahead of Monday’s AFL Commission meeting.
They have picks 1, 24 (received from the Bulldogs) and 25 (received from Adelaide) then selections 65 and 73.
A mid first-round priority pick at 11 could be directly traded for McGovern or they could use an end-of-first-round priority pick (19) as part of a deal.

“pays a premium”

But then

“The Blues rank McGovern as worthy of a trade for a pick between 15-20, while Adelaide ranks him in the 10-15 range”

If a pick in the 10-15 range is our idea of a premium then there are going to be some disappointed AFC supporters.

Whole article is probably crap.