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Marsh will get the rest of the ashes, the idea he is a horses for courses pick just for Perth is laughable but he really needs a lot of runs to get a ticket for the 4 games in sa as we don't need a 5th bowler on those decks we need as many in form batsmen as possible.
 
frankrizzo said:
Marsh will get the rest of the ashes, the idea he is a horses for courses pick just for Perth is laughable but he really needs a lot of runs to get a ticket for the 4 games in sa as we don't need a 5th bowler on those decks we need as many in form batsmen as possible.
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But this just adds to the frustration. He'll probably score a ton on the WACA road and his selection for SA will be secure.
 
archibald said:
There's really no point understanding why the Marsh's get selected. It's just a fact of life. Like gravity or climate change.

A lot of WA supporters will say "He's in form" and that Handscomb is "Out of form" and that averages mean little compared to form yet fail to understand that averages will show the quality of the player as it encompasses both phases of good/bad form. Numbers don't tell the full story, although they tell significantly more than "form".

I did read a humerous article explaining that Marsh is the incumbent due to his injury in India, that somehow his dismal performances were irrevelant and that he could have possibly played out that series on form.
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A lot of WA supporters will say the pitch is going to be flatter than the flattest thing you can imagine. If Pete Handscombe could send down 10-12 overs an innings of military medium on a dry line and length he would hold his spot. Marsh is getting the nod based on needing an extra bowling rotation. Even Smith has said this in today's presser - it's a bowling decision not a batting decision.

The other seam all rounders have been examined and discarded as being in worse touch than Marsh.

No one has argued that Marsh is a better test bat than Handscombe.
 

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The Aussie team don't want the quicks each bowling 40 plus overs for the match so this is the safety cap in picking Marsh , The WACA has broken down many of WAs quicks .

They say the wicket a few days ago had plenty of grass on the surface and the weather will mostly be in the 20s for the duration of the match , so Day 3 and 4 will be real good for batting maybe not Day 1 though .
 
frankrizzo said:
Said it before will say it again if it's that much of a road just play bird as a 5th bolwer, he's a legitimate wicket taker and unlike marsh doesn't have the same injury cloud over his bowling.
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Maybe if we weren't 2-0 up at home they'd consider it
 
Knock knock said:
Handscomb can consider himself very unlucky. Two poor tests after an awesome year and he is going to get dropped. Ridiculous.
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Two poor Tests... do you not watch cricket?

He's averaged 31 over the last 11 months, with 2 50s. 'Awesome' is a massive overstatement.
 
RookiePick said:
A lot of WA supporters will say the pitch is going to be flatter than the flattest thing you can imagine. If Pete Handscombe could send down 10-12 overs an innings of military medium on a dry line and length he would hold his spot. Marsh is getting the nod based on needing an extra bowling rotation. Even Smith has said this in today's presser - it's a bowling decision not a batting decision.

The other seam all rounders have been examined and discarded as being in worse touch than Marsh.

No one has argued that Marsh is a better test bat than Handscombe.
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My point wasn't that people are comparing Marsh and Handsomb as batsman, rather the contradictions in the reasons given for their respective promotion/demotion.

Also there is no need for an allrounder, no matter how flat a pitch is. The selectors just have to get over the fact that there is no allrounder deserving of the spot at this present time. You bring in a player with good form and a substancial record who can bowl part time (Maxwell), an extra bowler (Bird, Sayers) or rest the quick you are concerned about.
 
BruceFromBalnarring said:
But this just adds to the frustration. He'll probably score a ton on the WACA road and his selection for SA will be secure.
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Well if he performs when selected, isn't that a good thing?

Can we just accept a good performance on face value if it happens, instead of as some sort of con job on the selectors to guarantee a future place?
 
BruceFromBalnarring said:
But this just adds to the frustration. He'll probably score a ton on the WACA road and his selection for SA will be secure.
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Like half of Handscombs Test runs have been against Pakistan on freeways home. But of course all those runs count.
 

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Handscomb and M Marsh are all we have to choose from?

The cupboard is not just bare, it's a barren desert. :(
 

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Damon_3388 said:
Meanwhile Glenn Maxwell and Callum Ferguson sit #1 and #2 on the Shield runscorers list this year, but can't earn a Test recall.
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That'd be because they cant bowl.
Maxwell especially should not get a gig because he can bowl, in shield this year hes played all the matches, and averages 5.6 overs bowled per game and has taken a single wicket. seriously 56overs 1/160
Marsh in one and a half games available to bowl (he wasn't planning to bowl v SA, had to due to other bowlers injuries) already bowled 22 overs. and taken twice the wickets Maxwell has.
Also Marsh has been bowling in the nets for months, its just match practice he's lacking.
 
Fat Nyfe said:
Lol it was pretty unfair to Ferguson to be honest. 1 test in that disastrous Hobart game and 1 of his innings was run out.

Then a much less deserving Nic Maddinson comes in and gets 3 goes at it.
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Yeah it's hard to understand how some players are allowed multiple failures and multiple recalls while Ferguson gets no second chances.

Hodge v Andrew Symonds was another one I could never understand. Symonds a shit technique and ordinary top order bat while Hodge was quality bat who just couldn't get a game and IIRC dropped close after making 200, albeit on a road. Never mattered much with Gilly at seven but still...
 
BRWB said:
Yeah it's hard to understand how some players are allowed multiple failures and multiple recalls while Ferguson gets no second chances.

Hodge v Andrew Symonds was another one I could never understand. Symonds a shit technique and ordinary top order bat while Hodge was quality bat who just couldn't get a game and IIRC dropped close after making 200, albeit on a road. Never mattered much with Gilly at seven but still...
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Hodge was junk at Test level, forget the grossly inflated average
 

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