Mitchell Marsh

[frankrizzo]

He isn't going to suddenly become a decent number six though, 31 tests is a very large sample and he has proven to be a mediocre test batsman clearly not good enough to bat at six.

We either find a keeper who can average 35-40 who can bat at six or we bat marsh at 8 as part of a four man attack, batting him at six and paine at seven just isn't going to work even on our flatter decks it's also going to waste Smith's peak years as he will get stranded with the tail more often than not.

 

[omarlittle1]

He isn't going to suddenly become a decent number six though, 31 tests is a very large sample and he has proven to be a mediocre test batsman clearly not good enough to bat at six.

We either find a keeper who can average 35-40 who can bat at six or we bat marsh at 8 as part of a four man attack, batting him at six and paine at seven just isn't going to work even on our flatter decks it's also going to waste Smith's peak years as he will get stranded with the tail more often than not.

Hard to argue with that.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

Hard to argue with that.

Smith's peak years are going to be just fine regardless of the awfulness of our batting line-up. The true greats play in their own bubble anyway.

 

[cricketnut14]

He isn't going to suddenly become a decent number six though, 31 tests is a very large sample and he has proven to be a mediocre test batsman clearly not good enough to bat at six.

We either find a keeper who can average 35-40 who can bat at six or we bat marsh at 8 as part of a four man attack, batting him at six and paine at seven just isn't going to work even on our flatter decks it's also going to waste Smith's peak years as he will get stranded with the tail more often than not.

gonna be hard pressed to find a keeper who averages 35-40 (we've only had one in our history and haddin @ 33).
and marsh aint in our best 3 quicks imo , so he doesn't get a Guernsey @ 8.

 

[Voice of the G]

gonna be hard pressed to find a keeper who averages 35-40 (we've only had one in our history and haddin @ 33).
and marsh aint in our best 3 quicks imo , so he doesn't get a Guernsey @ 8.

Keeper/batsman how about Josh Philippe in the future.Any one know what his keeping is like?

 

[eth-dog]

Keeper/batsman how about Josh Philippe in the future.Any one know what his keeping is like?

Poor keeper.

 

[cricketnut14]

Keeper/batsman how about Josh Philippe in the future.Any one know what his keeping is like?

looks to be a potential white ball player from all reports.

averages 28 in red ball cricket and didn't keep in the last shield game he played (inglis did). based on that, still has a long way to go.

 

[Richard Pryor]

There is still a future for M marsh in the test team....just needs to score some runs along with the rest of out top 6

shield games coming up are going to be crucial

Would prefer to focus on Mitch Marsh captaining us at the next World Cup.

 

[Richard Pryor]

Aboslutely. And even none of the guys you mention did just that and they are legends of the game.

Tony Greig is an often overlooked member of the great all rounders club. Averaged just over 40 with the bat, 2.5 wickets a test (141 from 58) at 32. That is a very strong record - probably the equivalent level for a batting all rounder as Ian Botham was to a bowling all rounder, although is must be said Beefy's overall career record was seriously depreciated by the final 6 years of his career.

There's four blokes that have the +40/-30 and taken more than 10 wickets in the process. Two are knockabout Aussie legends who most wouldn't expect on this list - Doug Walters and Darren Lehmann. Though obviously their status as genuine all rounders would be in question as they only took about a wicket every second test, which would make them good part time bowlers.

The other two are the only two that have done the +40/-30, played more than 10 tests and took over a wicket a test - Aubrey Faulkner and Charles MacCartney.

In summary, +40 with the bat and -30 with the ball is not even close to a realistic expectation of any cricketer.

The only exception I can think of is Imran Khan, from memory he was pretty much pure bowler in the early part of his career, and similar to Steve Smith in ODI's if you take the first part of his career when he played a different role out he is a 40+/30- allrounder.

 

[JezzasOnTheAsphalt]

Sounds like Mitch will be nursing a sore hand for a while. Disappointing for him as it felt like these Shield games were going to be absolutely crucial for him. Kept Ben Stokes out of cricket for a while when he hit his hand in a change room as well.

Having said that, if someone was going to find a way to injure himself in a change room after showing glimpses of promise in his last test then would anyone be that surprised when it would turn out to be him

 

[Badesumofu]

I guess he took the exhortation from the captain to be more like Ben Stokes a bit too literally.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Incredible headline/picture combo from the abc.

Mitch Marsh Test spot in danger after all-rounder punches WACA changing room wall, injuring hand
By James Carmody
Updated 7 minutes ago

Mitch Marsh's 'moment of madness' ended with a broken hand and Test hopes in jeopardy

Test all-rounder Mitch Marsh is likely to miss at least the first Test of the season after punching a dressing-room wall during Western Australia's Sheffield Shield draw with Tasmania, breaking his bowling hand.

www.abc.net.au

 

[MC Bad Genius]

As if a broken hand is gonna stop the selectors from picking him ...

 

[frankrizzo]

The fact he probably would have kept his spot at six without really earning it makes this even dumber, but this is what happens when you reward a mediocre performer time after time he gets soft and arrogant.

Let's remember this bloke with a test average of just 25 was made australian vice captain not long ago, others have to prove themselves over and over he just needs to not break his hand on a wall to keep his spot and he can't even do that right.

He deserves a long spell out of the test side , he might learn some humility and hopefully become a better player if he is forced to work as hard as others to earn another chance.

 

[Ishikawa]

The fact he probably would have kept his spot at six without really earning it makes this even dumber, but this is what happens when you reward a mediocre performer time after time he gets soft and arrogant.

Let's remember this bloke with a test average of just 25 was made australian vice captain not long ago, others have to prove themselves over and over he just needs to not break his hand on a wall to keep his spot and he can't even do that right.

He deserves a long spell out of the test side , he might learn some humility and hopefully become a better player if he is forced to work as hard as others to earn another chance.

What a cancerous load of toss that post is. Humility? Get a clue.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Yeah, Mitch is a good kid. This is a brain explosion that he'll learn from.

I'm not convinced he'd have kept his Test place given his bowling won't be as important down under.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

As long as he doesn't get picked in the test series, that's the important thing.

Happy for him in a ODI side though, he's better than Figjam Stoinis

 

[Peter Doherty]

What a spoilt brat.

 

[Badesumofu]

Out for 4 - 6 weeks with a fractured hand. Talk about a brain-explosion.

 

[Westend]

Idiot he wasn't going to get picked for the first test at the gabba...3 quicks and lyon will do the job

hope they pick young will for number six pucovski

 

[Present Not Past]

What a way to keep your name in the papers.
Doofus.

 

[The Speaker]

Some very strange comments here

 

[Carbine Chaos]

What a spoilt brat.

What?

 

[Freo Big Fella]

What a cancerous load of toss that post is. Humility? Get a clue.

These are the fans crying along with their captain that a Sheffield Shield result wasn't deliberately manufactured for their benefit this week - Victorian fans have always maintained a fairly tangential relationship with reality.

 

[Peter Doherty]

What?

Glad to see the back of him.