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Mitchell Marsh

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The Governor said:
If the selectors pick mature age batsmen who are at least 25 years of age, the selectors cannot drop them. Once they are dropped, their careers are finished.
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by god you talk alot of crap. I'd love to know what Katich did to you.

IF you change 25 to 30 you have a point. If we drop any of Katich/Hussey/North they are finished at test level, it means the selectors seem to give them many more chances. I mean shit you just look at Hughes, he had two bad tests and he was gone, because they know he can come back.
 
I would like to know how the Warriors mgt see Mitch Marsh. Look at this Shield match, they are treating him as a third seamer. WTF?

Perhaps they thought that Johnson would front up so well that Marsh could be tested alongside him, but Mickey Arthur should have followed Aus cricket enough to know how far Johnson has fallen from the heights when he chewed up the Saffers with bat and ball.

I would have thought that Mitch Marsh was a batting all-rounder at best, but they must see something solid in his bowling.

He bowls too full (half-volleys) a lot of the time from what I have seen - which admittedly isn't a lot. Maybe he would be ok if the ball got a bit of movement like in England.

But he is young and has looked a proper talent who also sounds far more mature than his age in interviews, so can only get better with plenty of hard match practise.
 

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I reckon WA have received instructions from CA to try to develop Marsh's bowling. We all know what a chubby CA get for genuine allrounders, and judging by Marsh's bowling, the raw potential is there. He hits the pitch hard, and nudges 140 km/h. Bowls too many bad balls at the moment, and there's no guarantee he'll sort out that side of the game. The conservative approach would just be to focus on his batting, but if he can get his bowling sorted, the payoff will be greater, even if it risks doing his batting harm. Do you roll the dice on his development?
 
bloodstainedangel5 said:
I reckon WA have received instructions from CA to try to develop Marsh's bowling. We all know what a chubby CA get for genuine allrounders, and judging by Marsh's bowling, the raw potential is there. He hits the pitch hard, and nudges 140 km/h. Bowls too many bad balls at the moment, and there's no guarantee he'll sort out that side of the game. The conservative approach would just be to focus on his batting, but if he can get his bowling sorted, the payoff will be greater, even if it risks doing his batting harm. Do you roll the dice on his development?
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Well he has had a lot of problems with injuries already in his fledgling career that is why he didn't bowl last year apart from that one 20/20 match v the Blues.

But they must think that he has the ability, so he probably has, but third seamer seems a bit much at present. And I'd like to see how he did coming in higher in the batting line-up, but that's just as I have loved the small amount of his batting I have seen. He looked like the kind of player who has a lot of time to play his shots. And he has a lot of shots.
 
Belnakor said:
by god you talk alot of crap. I'd love to know what Katich did to you.

IF you change 25 to 30 you have a point. If we drop any of Katich/Hussey/North they are finished at test level, it means the selectors seem to give them many more chances. I mean shit you just look at Hughes, he had two bad tests and he was gone, because they know he can come back.
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That's the point right there. I think Mitch Marsh should be in the ODI squad right now. Get him in and leave him in. Nothing wrong with blooding them young. We seem to be the only international side who doesn't do this. Works for India and Pakistan and they don't have anywhere near the domestic level or the coaching in under age that we have.

Our side is looking like a bunch of stray cats with not 9 but 19 lives each. I love Mike Hussey but time to go. North, don't get me started. Hughes could play at 6 and White or Kawalja at 5. M Marsh instead of M Hussey in ODI.

Mitch Marsh captained Australia in the under 19 world cup and lead them to victory. I watched that tournament and he was the best player there. He'll be ten times the player his brother will ever be and his father ever was.
 
Bombertastic said:
That's the point right there. I think Mitch Marsh should be in the ODI squad right now. Get him in and leave him in. Nothing wrong with blooding them young. We seem to be the only international side who doesn't do this. Works for India and Pakistan and they don't have anywhere near the domestic level or the coaching in under age that we have.

Our side is looking like a bunch of stray cats with not 9 but 19 lives each. I love Mike Hussey but time to go. North, don't get me started. Hughes could play at 6 and White or Kawalja at 5. M Marsh instead of M Hussey in ODI.

Mitch Marsh captained Australia in the under 19 world cup and lead them to victory. I watched that tournament and he was the best player there. He'll be ten times the player his brother will ever be and his father ever was.
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Firstly, Mitch Marsh has shown nothing to suggest he should be anywhere near the Aussie squad yet in any form (but then, neither had Henriques).

Secondly, Mike Hussey is still a gun ODI (and T20, for that matter) cricketer, and is definitely in our best 11 in that format. He's past it in Tests, but he's still a lock in those formats.
 
jackster83 said:
Wicketless with the ball and averaging 17 with the bat after 8 first class matches. A possibility for Australia A maybe but definitely not in contention to play for Australia. Not even close.
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Test cricket - absolutely

Shortened version - his figures for a 19 year old stack up pretty well.

41 @ 96 with the bat
Averages 35 with the ball

Still a ways from national selection - but he's tracking well.
 
Cotchin 9 said:
Needs to bat in a set position in the Shield for the rest of the season. Been pushed around 4,5,6,7. I think it should be at 6 where he can play his shots and then possibly in the future move up to number 4 and shift that hack Voges.
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I think they should give him a run at 4. He has been all over the place and now they are treating him like a f/t bowler. They obviously want to play him but he is not going anywhere at present in the longer format.
 

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Not in the best form at the moment, maybe drop him from shield team since Davis was pretty unlucky, or hopefully one of our bowlers will be back soon. Going to be a gun, but isn't in the form to warrant a shield place. But then again WA probably couldn't field a side if underperfoming players weren't picked.
 
Yep.

Out of all the batting all-rounders in this country, Mitch is the most talented by an absolute mile. Hasn't come on anywhere near as well as most thought by this stage of his career though.

3 years ago, I reckon CA thought Mitch would of been in the frame to replace Ponting or Hussey, injuries and form have meant thats not the case, but he's not out of the frame of an Ashes spot if he piles on the runs from now on, he's always been CA's lovechild imo........
 
Jackfrost said:
Fantastic return from the young man after a 12 week layoff with injury. All this talk of Maxwell, Henriques or Smith (yuck) being our Test all-rounder will be forgetten in the next 12 months.

Just a shame that both brothers are so injury prone!
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You're assuming he won't have broken down 3-4 times by then.
 

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bird_man said:
What's his FC batting average? Isn't it about 20? And your whining about Smith and Maxwell?
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His batting technique looks better suited to test cricket than either of those two though even if the stats don't back it up yet.

If he can stay injury free he should be a big chance of filling the test all rounder role.
 
Looking pretty doesn't always score you runs. Bigfooty people have an obsession with "good techniques". Unfortunately techniques don't win you the ashes, runs do though. If he can't score runs at FC level what makes you think his going to change at test level?
 

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