Vintage Bay Mofra's Bottom 50 for 2018

[pulpdriver]

Hodge and Boyd aside, has any no 1 pick actually performed in the big dance?

Goddard was close to BOG in that first grand final against the Pies. Can't remember what he did the week after in the replay though.

 

[leobarryustar]

Hodge and Boyd aside, has any no 1 pick actually performed in the big dance?

Brett Dele... oh never mind

 

[Donakebab]

Goddard was close to BOG in that first grand final against the Pies. Can't remember what he did the week after in the replay though.

Was probably the Saints best player in the replay. Was also one of their best the previous year despite playing with a broken nose and shoulder.

 

[Holy Rioli]

Hodge and Boyd aside, has any no 1 pick actually performed in the big dance?

Remember that time Reiwoldt kicked that goal from 1m out...

 

[carnthedons]

Jade Gresham?

We’re ok for small forwards. Thanks though.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

#1 picks don’t necessarily buy/bring happiness....

Have been known to buy quite a bit of T & S though.

 

[TedDougChris]

Remember that time Reiwoldt kicked that goal from 1m out...

From downtown !!!!!!!

 

[craffles]

Yawn. Most overrated thread ever

 

[hawkman]

Hodge and Boyd aside, has any no 1 pick actually performed in the big dance?

Hard to perform in the big dance when most are drafted by Carlton

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Hodge and Boyd aside, has any no 1 pick actually performed in the big dance?

Goddard.

Guy was a pointy twat but cannot deny his big game performances.

 

[ChappyUK]

This thread has basically become like painting the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

Once it's done.you have to start all over again

 

[Crankyhawk]

With #1 picks, I think that what GWS, GCS, St Kilda, Carlton and Essendon (who in accordance with tradition, cheated to get their last #1 pick) have shown us is:

That unless they are called Tom Boyd, that #1 picks don’t necessarily buy/bring happiness....

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[Simon_Says]

Player #11 - Jono Patton

Pictured: Thank god football happened

Jon Patton joins the list of former no 1 picks who just never quite got to where they should be.

On something like $700-800k pa, Jon "the General" Patton has has a career interrupted by both injury and under performance since he was the 'consensus no 1 pick' in 2011. BTW his nickname is in reference to General Patton, a WW2 American general who actually won something.

This season the Giants didn't quite meet their benchmark of a prelim loss, and coincidentally Patton had a down year by his normally disappointing standards.
Shoehorned into the ruck/forward role he showed a small amount of forward nous as a slow, lumbering big man and all the ruck ability of a common housebrick. Managing 10 effective possessions and less than 6 and a half hitouts per game the General didn't just fail to meet the benchmark of a pick 1 on a big fat contract, he tunnelled like a doomsday cultist.

It got to the point when Nick Riewoldt, another former no 1 pick with questionable kicking who never won anything, said Jono should bring back the place-kick. The place-kick was last used in 1955 by Tony Ongarello who played for Fitzroy, who merged with Brisbane to become the Brisbane Lions who won three premierships at the start of the 2000s. Back in 1955 the Giants weren't even a glint in an AFL focus groups' eye.

Now, when you take a player at pick 1 you hope like hell he manages to do more than play "3rd forward or back-up ruckman" but that's the level Patton aspired to in 2018 (and failed at). His ruck numbers take into account that at times he was the Giants no 1 ruckman, getting soundly beaten by a 36 year old Sandilands and the 3rd choice ruck the Swans play most of the season. Of course after round 7 he was dropped by the Giants so he faces an issue at least recognised by the Giants.

In happier news for Jono he publicly declared Sydney is now 'home' by buy buying a place in Alexandria. Being from Noble Park it's little surprise the General has not much in the way of 'go home' factor, even if any Victorian team was interested in him. If only he was under six foot Essendon would be an option, or a complete spud so Carlton would have interest.

Sadly the General suffered a major injury late in the season which curtailed his campaign, but after setbacks in the past he made it back so best of luck this time the same thing happens. After all the Giants saw first hand a 4 time ACL victim (Clay Smith) utterly hand them a new a-hole in the 2016 prelim with 4 first half goals. Just thinking about it...

oooh ah um ah *bites lip*

... anyway good luck next year Jon, enjoy the new pad. Welcome to the Bottom 50 for 2018.

Ah Patton, the classic case of "Looks Like Tarzan, plays like Jane!"

 

[TedDougChris]

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A very rare exception to the rule.....

Also not drafted to Carlton, Essendon, GWS, GCS etc.....

 

[HTPunter]

Honestly based on pre-season expectations and $$$ then McDonald should be well ahead of Hartung. Hartung might have been a spud but at least he was identified as such, McDonald still gets a free ride from the club and supporters alike.

Maybe Hrovat from here for North players in the top 20?

 

[____]

Both would be your best young player. I still rate the Clug higher than McGrath who was taken at #1

Obviously I am biased but I rate Berry above both McCluggage and McGrath

Hodge and Boyd aside, has any no 1 pick actually performed in the big dance?

Indeed, #1 draft picks have only produced 7 premierships in total....4 of those belong to Luke Hodge.

Not counting trades obviously, no number one draft pick has actually won a premiership that they were drafted by as a result of them finishing last this century. This is one of the many reasons why I don't believe in the draft.

I remember travelling down for the Round 23 game v the Saints in 2016 when the spoon was a genuine possibility for us and arguing with every Victorian Lions fan because I wanted us not to lose by too much to avoid the spoon (and the double shame of finishing below a VFL team), all the Vic fans wanted us to finish last to get pick one and insisted "getting the wooden spoon isn't that bad". I mentioned pick 1 hasn't exactly helped out Melbourne or Carlton, I honestly can't understand the mentality of any fan who wants to finish last for pick one. Hodge and Riewoldt aside I honestly can't think of a pick one that was undoubtedly the best player drafted that year, at the end of the day though the draft is a complete lottery.

I also don't think we would have traded pick 1 for picks 3 and 16, I believe the club thought McCluggage would be a certain pick 1 when we did that trade with GWS

 

[yyou]

Obviously I am biased but I rate Berry above both McCluggage and McGrath



Not counting trades obviously, no number one draft pick has actually won a premiership that they were drafted by as a result of them finishing last this century. This is one of the many reasons why I don't believe in the draft.

I remember travelling down for the Round 23 game v the Saints in 2016 when the spoon was a genuine possibility for us and arguing with every Victorian Lions fan because I wanted us not to lose by too much to avoid the spoon (and the double shame of finishing below a VFL team), all the Vic fans wanted us to finish last to get pick one and insisted "getting the wooden spoon isn't that bad". I mentioned pick 1 hasn't exactly helped out Melbourne or Carlton, I honestly can't understand the mentality of any fan who wants to finish last for pick one. Hodge and Riewoldt aside I honestly can't think of a pick one that was undoubtedly the best player drafted that year, at the end of the day though the draft is a complete lottery.

I also don't think we would have traded pick 1 for picks 3 and 16, I believe the club thought McCluggage would be a certain pick 1 when we did that trade with GWS

Hodge?
Judd was in that draft!
Can of worms officially opened

 

[Starburns_]

Hodge?
Judd was in that draft!
Can of worms officially opened

Ablett Jnr too.

 

[____]

Ablett Jnr too.

Ablett Jr is inferior to Jack Watts though (some of it may be outdated now)

 

[Starburns_]

Ablett Jr is inferior to Jack Watts though (some of it may be outdated now)

Cancelled out by updated bits, like how Ablett doesn't like swimming & ****.

 

[leobarryustar]

Ablett Jnr too.

And Mitchell and Swan

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Ablett Jr is inferior to Jack Watts though (some of it may be outdated now)

Jack seems like the kind of guy Ablett Sr would have liked to hang out with.

 

[WillHayward]

Yawn. Most overrated thread ever

You may have chosen the wrong muppett for your avatar.
You are more of a Statler and Waldorf guy

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Yawn. Most overrated thread ever

You rated it?

 

[beartoo]

If Moffo's bottom is 50, how old is the rest of him?