Autopsy Mondays with Max

[Lefthanded]

Its a chicken v egg scenario!

I don't know if it applies in Cloke's case but tension can cause poor technique. Avoiding tension falls into the psychological realm.

Failing all else I would have thought Cloke could just take every kick from 40+m regardless of where the man on mark is!

 

[PepperFace]

I don't know if it applies in Cloke's case but tension can cause poor technique. Avoiding tension falls into the psychological realm.

Failing all else I would have thought Cloke could just take every kick from 40+m regardless of where the man on mark is!

Get his missus to help out if a tension build up is the issues

 

[Somebody]

I know for me, the right approach is block out everything except technique. Just concentrate on the 3 or so technique guidelines I have memorized and rotate through them. Go into "machine-man" mode. Don't aim to be "sure" to get the goal, just aim as close as possible to center to increase the probability of goaling.

But I'm a pretty analytical person so this approach might not work for others. Some may need a more intuitive method, like in Butch cassidy where Robert REdford says he can only shoot accurately when"moving", ie in the process of drawing and shooting quickly. This seems more like Buddy's approach.
I've successfully used something similar for clinch high-pressure shots, just go internally agro, take the shot aggressively and as quick as possible before have a chance to think about it, but still remember a couple of points like watch the ball all the way, follow through, point toe and kick with instep not toes - oh and stay "loose as a goose".

 

[Lefthanded]

Get his missus to help out if a tension build up is the issues

Probably not advised in the middle of a football ground when the AFL want a family friendly environment

 

[Pied Avenger]

Have sen the Girl... would help

 

[Lefthanded]

Round 5 clip - thought I saw Dermott Brereton kicking around a football in the background whilst they were talking to Taylor Adams. Does DB have an association with the Pies at present?

 

[Likitysplit]

Round 5 clip - thought I saw Dermott Brereton kicking around a football in the background whilst they were talking to Taylor Adams. Does DB have an association with the Pies at present?

He was kicking with one of Buckley's sons. No association, think he was just mucking around after probably being sent down for an interview by FOX or SEN.

 

[TW Sherrin]

He was kicking with one of Buckley's sons. No association, think he was just mucking around after probably being sent down for an interview by FOX or SEN.

was kicking with Ed's kids as well.

 

[Axl the great]

When i used to play i was a dead eye dick kick at goal but not much else really, and played full back most of the time anyway.

One thing i found foolproof for me was to just try and clear the umpires head, never ever tried to over kick the footy.

I also imagined a light or different shade on the turf, from where i was kicking from, that followed the exact angle to the goals, sort of like a sports video game.

Travis has a more technical issue than mental for me, the simple reason is the ball comes off the boot in the wrong direction rather than heading towards the goal then deviating in the air. I Reckon a shorter run up, possibly 4 or 5 steps from short distances would work a lot better for him IMO, less room for error rather than a 10 or 15 step run up where the mechanics of his kick can become out of kilter.

 

[Douglass]

Maxy's main guy on Friday was Taylor Adams. Part of this might be Maxy trying to draw attention to the guys that have put in the best efforts as opposed to those, like the ever consistent Pendlebury, who perform at a high level week after week. I loved Adams' game on the weekend and I think it was one of his best. As Maxy points out, Taylor played with confidence and he hit his targets with great precision. He needs to be applauded for this and to show him that he is capable of kicking accurately. My fave player from the weekend was Oxley, as he racked up the possessions, hit his targets, took marks and was a consistently positive influence on the shape of the game. Well done Oxley!

 

[Somebody]

On this week's MWM, Max talked about a tactic Geelong used to gain midfield ascendancy from center bounces. I only watched it once but didn't really get it or how it worked to create a free man for them.

 

[Bard]

On this week's MWM, Max talked about a tactic Geelong used to gain midfield ascendancy from center bounces. I only watched it once but didn't really get it or how it worked to create a free man for them.

Okay so they take a forward, the example he uses is Motlop, and he runs around to the other side of the centre square (Geelong's defensive side). Our defenders didn't follow him up, so it meant one of our forwards, ie Jarryd Blair, manned up on him. Motlop then charged through the centre square when the ball was bounced towards Geelong's forward 50, and Blair followed him, but because of this Blair's defender, Enright, was able to zone off and be an extra loose in defence for Geelong so that our rushed kick forward landed in his lap uncontested. Normally Blair would have been there with him, and Motlop would have been useless, sitting in Geelong's forward line.

 

[Somebody]

Okay so they take a forward, the example he uses is Motlop, and he runs around to the other side of the centre square (Geelong's defensive side). Our defenders didn't follow him up, so it meant one of our forwards, ie Jarryd Blair, manned up on him. Motlop then charged through the centre square when the ball was bounced towards Geelong's forward 50, and Blair followed him, but because of this Blair's defender, Enright, was able to zone off and be an extra loose in defence for Geelong so that our rushed kick forward landed in his lap uncontested. Normally Blair would have been there with him, and Motlop would have been useless, sitting in Geelong's forward line.

OK well that isn't exactly sophisticated, pretty dumb to fall for that. His man should have just manned him up, or he or someone should have seen taht something was up immediately, and got someone else to take Motlop.

Sounds like a lack of intelligent leadership out on the ground,not to be able to see such an obvious ploy, which coupled with the Hawkins mismatch v likely cost us 4 precious points. (oh and an honorable mention to Cloke for the babyish 20 m goal misses).

 

[loki04]

OK well that isn't exactly sophisticated, pretty dumb to fall for that. His man should have just manned him up, or he or someone should have seen taht something was up immediately, and got someone else to take Motlop.

Sounds like a lack of intelligent leadership out on the ground,not to be able to see such an obvious ploy, which coupled with the Hawkins mismatch v likely cost us 4 precious points. (oh and an honorable mention to Cloke for the babyish 20 m goal misses).

Thats why you have coaches to make moves to counter that shit.

 

[Scodog10]

Thats why you have coaches to make moves to counter that shit.

It also meant that it created a plus one in our defensive half that we didn't capitalise on. Pretty disappointing on a number of fronts unfortunately.

 

[Somebody]

Thats why you have coaches to make moves to counter that shit.

Let's jsut say that if Max was still playing he might have done something about it but I'm only speculating.
I suppose one disadvantage of a midfield skipper is you don't have much time to observe that sort of stuff because you are pretty much full-on in the play all the time.

 

[loki04]

Let's jsut say that if Max was still playing he might have done something about it but I'm only speculating.
I suppose one disadvantage of a midfield skipper is you don't have much time to observe that sort of stuff because you are pretty much full-on in the play all the time.

Coaches job.

 

[Somebody]

Coaches job.

Yes but not only the coach, good field leaders make a difference in the short term with this sort of stuff and can also send messages back to the box.

 

[tommyv49]

I'd suggest: Anything outside 40m....drop punt. Angled kicks use the bananas and the snaps he knows already.....and for anything inside 40m that he's not snapping....use a flat punt. The ugly old flat punt will give Trav more to aim his pointy toes at and it will allow him to kick it as hard as he likes from any distance because a flat punt's range is only about 45 m.
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He definitely couldn't get any worse trying it.

 

[Somebody]

I get that. Just surprised its still an issue when basic kicking technique should be like being in autopilot mode and nothing should ever change at this stage of his career.

Problem is his basic technique is flawed

Well his technique +becomes+ flawed when in close. he reverts to old habits. but technique is better at 50+ or when snapping, so it seems to be psychological. It's also lack of focus/concentration - if you have a bad mental habit, strong focus on technique should overcome it with practice - even in a real game with a big crowd and millions watching on TV. Maybe that's what a psych could do is coach him in how to focus and stay relaxed, and not let yourself freeze up in pressure situations.

 

[Good_Old]

Just watched MWM and it triggered my memory of the first quarter. I thought Frost on Hawkins was a curious decision from Buckley. I would have thought the glaringly obvious opponent would have been Brown. Anyone have any insight?

 

[Somebody]

Good MWM this week.
Talked about some of the defensive mistakes that cost us goals v Dawks, as well as the good signs.
It gives a hint of how he marshalled the defense when still playing.

 

[Somebody]

Interesting that Max actually floated the possibility of giving Cox a game this week! Maybe he'll make emergency. Of course that assumes Max is still inner sanctum.

 

[ZEV]

Interesting that Max actually floated the possibility of giving Cox a game this week! Maybe he'll make emergency. Of course that assumes Max is still inner sanctum.

If you float past the westpac centre early in the morning have a look who's on the ground... Mason cox 's kick to kick skills are starting to look like someone who's played the game their whole life. And isn't nine foot tall.

 

[TradeDraft]

If you float past the westpac centre early in the morning have a look who's on the ground... Mason cox 's kick to kick skills are starting to look like someone who's played the game their whole life. And isn't nine foot tall.

His Kicking does style not look bad and Ruckwork is good but outside of that he still has Little Idea what he is doing