I noticed a nice chart put up by a poster and Carlton was amongst the lowest scoring in fines and suspensions this year. Some say how nice to support such a lovely bunch of nice boys. I say BULLSHIT - we are short of mongrel BIG TIME. These blokes have some mongrel in them and the rest should wake up to themselves This is my get a pass and can play because they have some mongrel when required in them. I dont count mouthy players as real mongrels - so scratch Plowman for example. I dont count chip scab possessions or hugging tacklers as mongrels and half steppers get one half step in whole career before they are barred. White AlexS Byrne Weitering Jones Docherty Williamson XXX Thomas Kreuzer Cripps Ed Curnow SOJ Charlie XXX XXX XXX XXX IC: XXX XXX Fisher Cuningham EM: Kerridge, Gibbs, XXX XXX We need more mongrel - have I missed anyone? discuss.