Monkeys domesticating wolves. We're screwed.

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https://www.newscientist.com/articl...lliance-with-wolves-looks-like-domestication/

In the alpine grasslands of eastern Africa, Ethiopian wolves and gelada monkeys are giving peace a chance. The geladas – a type of baboon – tolerate wolves wandering right through the middle of their herds, while the wolves ignore potential meals of baby geladas in favour of rodents, which they can catch more easily when the monkeys are present.

 

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In a cattle station in the territory a farmer couple reintroduced the wolf pack to the landscape after talking to indigenous elders

Previously water holes suffered in drought and feral cats foxes and wild dogs and rabbits contributed to the environmental destruction

The cows also ate everything they could find
making things worse again

Add the wolf pack and everything changed. The cows would go get a drink and move on. The feral animals hunted by the wolf pack.

So the water holes did not not dry out as much and the vegetation around the water hole grew back and native animals hunted by the ferals returned. Not only did it make money for the farmer and produced healthier cows but the enviorement also won.

Also.the wolf has spiritual significance in indigenous religon and these farmers went along way to respecting the oldest culture

The Australian grey wolf that you guys know as the dingo is the purest of all wolves under current dna technology

You should look up Yellowstone national park and the same thing when they reintroduced wolves
 

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In a cattle station in the territory a farmer couple reintroduced the wolf pack to the landscape after talking to indigenous elders

Previously water holes suffered in drought and feral cats foxes and wild dogs and rabbits contributed to the environmental destruction

The cows also ate everything they could find
making things worse again

Add the wolf pack and everything changed. The cows would go get a drink and move on. The feral animals hunted by the wolf pack.

So the water holes did not not dry out as much and the vegetation around the water hole grew back and native animals hunted by the ferals returned. Not only did it make money for the farmer and produced healthier cows but the enviorement also won.

Also.the wolf has spiritual significance in indigenous religon and these farmers went along way to respecting the oldest culture

The Australian grey wolf that you guys know as the dingo is the purest of all wolves under current dna technology

You should look up Yellowstone national park and the same thing when they reintroduced wolves
The Australian Dingo is not a wolf> Canis lupus dingo> It is a feral dog.
 
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The Australian Dingo is not a wolf> Canis lupus dingo> It is a feral dog.
This is a science forum. The view you have posted is regarded as racially motivated. It has no credibility scientificaly.

There is a clear social structure to a dingo family and a clear role as an apex predator in this enviorement
 

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This is a science forum. The view you have posted is regarded as racially motivated. It has no credibility scientificaly.

There is a clear social structure to a dingo family and a clear role as an apex predator in this enviorement
doesn't make it a wolf in the traditional sense though does it, different breed
 
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doesn't make it a wolf in the traditional sense though does it, different breed
Same animal as the grey wolf. Around 4 to 18000 years ago there was a very slight change in dna.

We humans are predictable and have instincts and knowledge shared through dna. As does the wolf. The dog is different but not the dingo. Dingos can be raised in captivity for generations then let wild and go back to doing what wolves do. A regulator as all apex predator are


Indigenous records take the animal even further back. This wolf is prevalent in creation stories and dna puts the indigenous back some 400 thousand years. Fossil records here go back 180 thousand concerning farming practises and the culture is capped at a minimum 80 thousand years from digs in lake mungo where burial rituals never changed

As with these African wolves it understands it's role in the eco system and how other species can help thier survival.

The theory from scientists who still follow the out of Africa theory summise that the Australian grey wolf came here about 4 thousand years ago with asain traders. However that is designed to suit the out of Africa theory which has since been recanted by its authors. Accepting that possibly there was a migration from here you can then hypothesises the asain grey wolf also migrated from here

What is known is that grey wolves were never domesticated like they were here. This makes it tricky. Again indigenous culture had an equilibrium with animals no culture had a record like. Look up the hunting with orcas in Eden. They would light fires on the beach directing the orcas where to herd the other wales.

Orcas would take the livers and tongue and leave the rest for the humans they hunted with. Orcas came so familiar with humans that the first fisherman from Europe found they were saved by them and even directed search party's to where dead fishermans bodys were

Science is slowly changing as these facts are being recognised
 

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Great post

This is an example of "niche differentiation" known as "resource partitioning". Less rodents = more grasses, roots, seeds and fruits for the Gelada.

The impressive canine display of the Gelada would also resonate with Wolves

 

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