Mooney needs to go

[LifeSpan-Void]

That interview with Scott on Geelongcats.com kind of hinted that Vardy will be getting Mooney's spot in the next 4 weeks, given that he went to great pains to say that Hawkins was playing well in the role that was being asked of him.

 

[Exhale You]

I'd really like to see Mitch Brown play soon too, 7 goals in the VFL (in a loss) screams "I'm ready"

His body screams otherwise.

Injuries have meant that Mitch's body is barely at a VFL standard, let alone AFL standard.
The exciting thing is that what he's doing in the VFL, he's doing through sheer talent and in spite of his body, but it also means he's a way off being physically ready for the rigours of AFL football.

He needs time, confidence in his body and the chance to develop physically and he'll only have those opportunities at VFL level.

 

[AM]

I'd really like to see Mitch Brown play soon too, 7 goals in the VFL (in a loss) screams "I'm ready"

The coach has said he's close to selection. I wouldn't be surprised to see him appear for us against the GC if his form holds up.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

That interview with Scott on Geelongcats.com kind of hinted that Vardy will be getting Mooney's spot in the next 4 weeks, given that he went to great pains to say that Hawkins was playing well in the role that was being asked of him.

Either that or Ottens will be rested.

Either way it'll be a massive task for Mooney to stay in the 22, he's missed so much work and with that being so I struggle to see his body getting to where it needs to to hold a permanent spot.

 

[Vdubs]

Mooney needs to go when HE says "I'm finished", when he realises he's partly responsible for any lack of potency and competitiveness on the forward line. He'll know.

 

[you pick one]

Mooney needs to go when HE says "I'm finished", when he realises he's partly responsible for any lack of potency and competitiveness on the forward line. He'll know.

Could not agree more,not a good took to be trucking your club champions off to the knackery,they should I think be given every opportunity to put them selves out to pasture.
Some may need a gentle prod but this should be done and I'm sure it will be with respect.quietly, in house and with a great deal of appreciation.

 

[catman2006]

Truth is Moon dog is not in our best 22 at the moment on form so shouldn't play tommorrow night, but that's not saying by years end he doesn't regain a bit of form and force he's way back in.

 

[vinum coupe]

Part of the problem is (as I see it) is that they don't appear willing to play him in the 2's. I know he has had soreness this year but you just get the feeling it's either 'you're in, or you're rested). Not 'mate you need a bit of form and fitness. go and have a few gentle runs in the 2's'

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

Could not agree more,not a good took to be trucking your club champions off to the knackery,they should I think be given every opportunity to put them selves out to pasture.
Some may need a gentle prod but this should be done and I'm sure it will be with respect.quietly, in house and with a great deal of appreciation.

He's already stated that this year is his swansong, so it's not like he's clinging to his career grimly in some delusion that he's got a lot more to offer on-field. It would be nice to see him retire with another flag, but if he's overtaken by Vardy or Brown, THEN you might expect him to retire mid-season. Mooney has always shown that he is a realist about himself and his career, I don't see him getting all Mitchell White about it now.

 

[goodoldcats]

What i have heard from one of the assistant coaches:
coaching staff believes our next window will open in 3 years, they rate Vardy very very highly. Scott is unbelievable they believe they have the best coach in the business, blew them away with his presentation to get the job. T Hunt is a year or two ahead in his development than what they thought he would be, extremely happy in how he is coming along. They rate christianson very highly. Rate our first pick in the draft among the top few but very worried about his body holding up.

 

[Partridge]

Could not agree more,not a good took to be trucking your club champions off to the knackery,they should I think be given every opportunity to put them selves out to pasture.

Some may need a gentle prod but this should be done and I'm sure it will be with respect.quietly, in house and with a great deal of appreciation.

Except when they aren't getting a kick. If the coach and selection committee are serious about promotion to the senior side being entirely based on merit then they have to make way for someone else.

 

[you pick one]

Except when they aren't getting a kick. If the coach and selection committee are serious about promotion to the senior side being entirely based on merit then they have to make way for someone else.

Don't disagree with that either Partridge but the thread is MOONEY NEEDS TO GO.All I'm talking about here is the responsibility, method and timing of the decision that brings about the end of his careerer.Not team selection policy.

 

[Partridge]

Don't disagree with that either Partridge but the thread is MOONEY NEEDS TO GO.All I'm talking about here is the responsibility, method and timing of the decision that brings about the end of his careerer.Not team selection policy.

Fair enough. Encouraging at least for Mooney too is that he looked ok against North. Looked to be moving with some freedom.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

You get the feeling from the Coaches comments that they recognise that Moons has had an interrupted preparation and he will build fitness and condition as the year progresses. My hope is that we blood the young tall KPF we have and have them prepared and Moons fit come September - best of both worlds !!

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Don't disagree with that either Partridge but the thread is MOONEY NEEDS TO GO.All I'm talking about here is the responsibility, method and timing of the decision that brings about the end of his careerer.Not team selection policy.

I agree with that but they are separate things.

Personally I don't think Mooney should be told to retire now, and when and if that happens it should be done in the right way. That does not mean however, that he should be picked this week, or any other week, if his form and/or fitness aren't up to it.

Dropping him on either of these basis does not mean he's being forced to retire, it's just good team selection, particularly if his body keeps struggling.

Anyway, I agree he was ok on Saturday and how he goes tomorrow night will tell us a lot.

 

[you pick one]

I agree with that but they are separate things.

Personally I don't think Mooney should be told to retire now, and when and if that happens it should be done in the right way. That does not mean however, that he should be picked this week, or any other week, if his form and/or fitness aren't up to it.

Dropping him on either of these basis does not mean he's being forced to retire, it's just good team selection, particularly if his body keeps struggling.

Anyway, I agree he was ok on Saturday and how he goes tomorrow night will tell us a lot.

Isn't that what I'm saying there,was meant to be,It was the whole point.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Part of the problem is (as I see it) is that they don't appear willing to play him in the 2's. I know he has had soreness this year but you just get the feeling it's either 'you're in, or you're rested). Not 'mate you need a bit of form and fitness. go and have a few gentle runs in the 2's'

That's what needs to happen!

Get him to play 60% game time for a month where the intensity isn't as high, and he can gain a little bit of form and confidence, kick a couple of goals and get some fitness back.

Then increase the workload for another month and if he's form and confidence return and warrant selection he could be a valuable asset heading into the last half of the season.

As it stands at the moment, playing like he's a cripple, unable to jump and play to the capability we know he can play, he's not being of much benifit to the side.

I hope the knee holds up and he gets back to something near what he is capable of.

 

[Vdubs]

Part of the problem is (as I see it) is that they don't appear willing to play him in the 2's. I know he has had soreness this year but you just get the feeling it's either 'you're in, or you're rested). Not 'mate you need a bit of form and fitness. go and have a few gentle runs in the 2's'

Mooney could be thought of as the Shane Crawford situation. Similar degenerate knee. No point playing 2's. He either gets it settled enough to play, or makes HIS announcement. Being so early in the season, chances are he will still have something to offer us. Right now, he is not able to play consecutive games.

 

[vinum coupe]

And in that scenario he is useless. He can't do a crawf. Lets rest him and let him train for 8 weeks then. And he can have one more roll of the dice.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

And in that scenario he is useless. He can't do a crawf. Lets rest him and let him train for 8 weeks then. And he can have one more roll of the dice.

Agree completely, surely that has to be the scenario from here.

One week in one week out can't be what we run with all year.

 

[Vdubs]

And in that scenario he is useless. He can't do a crawf. Lets rest him and let him train for 8 weeks then. And he can have one more roll of the dice.

great that you have suggestions, but these cases all need individual management and loading. The Crawford example was only to state that he was out for much of the season, but was able to make a late and signicant contribution once he was ok. No pressure. No recipes or conditions, other than ability to contribute on the day if fit and selected. That may not eventuate. Crawf also had the incentive of a first flag. But it's the injury I'm focussing on. Corey last year, good this year. Rooke never to be seen again. There are no rules, other than the club knowing when and if he is ready.

 

[Vdubs]

Agree completely, surely that has to be the scenario from here.

One week in one week out can't be what we run with all year.

Well it CAN if CS et al say so, but agree it's an unlikely thing to continue indefinitely.