Opinion Moore or Elliott

[PonsfordMagpie]

Just on Elliott, maybe he has changed his game but how many goals did he score in the games he played last year?

34 goals in 17 games. So he averaged 2 goals a match.

 

[TradeDraft]

Moore everyday and Twice on Sundays.

Have plenty to Replace Elliot and only McLarty for Moore

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Jaime Elliott for me.

Elliott is our biggest hurt point.

A fully fit Elliott what he brings, nobody on our list comes close to his goal kicking X factor.

In the air, on the ground he is so much superior to our other possible fillers when he’s injured. (Fasolo as an example just is not in Jaime’s level of talent and ability.)

Elliott hurts us big time.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Very good thread. Maybe we will play 2019 without one of them to make room for Lynch so my premise is based on that.

I lean towards Elliott but it would be a hell of a risk given his injury history over the past few seasons.

 

[SideysBottom]

Elliot will be a big inclusion come toward the pointy end of the year, in his best form he will give us a goal kicking weapon to explore in the forward line, we would love to have him back as soon as possible but hopefully we can see him fit before Round 18.

Moore likely to get some games under his belt for his confidence and he doesn't add as much value to the side, if we go back to using him as a forward he can have an impact but not as a deep option like Elliot.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I wonder if moores father was fred nerk whether people would keep wrapping him up. To be honest in all of moores games forward of the ball i can think of 1 game where I was excited. One game. I dont think his best position is forward. It may well be chb

Its a very good point but as you well know genetics have a lot to do with whether a player is going to be any good. So when a player's old man is a dual Brownlow medallist you have to take that into account.

Moore is still an enigma at this stage of his career. Hopefully he can get back on track this season and prove to the club why hes worth keeping.

 

[jackcass]

True.
Comparing Moore to Hogan and Curnow?... Moore has done basically jack-shit. Though, he’s U18 form was brilliant. His physique and skills are top notch. And, fragility aside... Moore> Elliot. Small, peewee forwards are a dime-a-dozen. KPP players don’t fall out of trees.

Really? That wasn't my recollection of the reports, there were moments of brilliance but little more.

 

[Kirby]

Elliott on exposed form is a far superior player and as Quicky said would free up DeGoey for more midfield time.

 

[Vicky Park]

Based on his prior performances then Elliott, absolutely.

I’m still not convinced about Moore, but last year he was struggling to cover the absence of Cloke, and those around him up forward weren’t doing much. This year he hasn’t been fully tried in a better functioning forward set up. Plus he practiced in defence in the pre-season.

We therefore don’t know how he would perform up forward when fully fit and with WHE, JDG and Cox doing his ‘thing’, and the mids’ improved delivery.

He could be a revelation. He could also be a disappointment.

 

[Unknown Identity]

For having an influence THIS year.

Jamie Elliott, hands down.

If it was Darcy Moore in 2-3 years time it might be a different story.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

We have rarely seen Moore

1. Fit.. and

2. He was subjected to Buckley's inept game plan for yrs..

So it's not an easy choice I feel.

 

[rand corp]

Elliot - proven goal kicker that can turn a game

Moore - love child who everyone hopes will one day be as good as his old man but who hasnt really strung a series of good games together since arriving

 

[10571z]

Cox out for Moore.
Elliot in for whoever.

Elliot is X Factor. If we want finals action you need blokes like him.

DeGoey, Stephenson, WHE, Elliot is an amazing group.

 

[jackcass]

Cox out for Moore.
Elliot in for whoever.

Elliot is X Factor. If we want finals action you need blokes like him.

DeGoey, Stephenson, WHE, Elliot is an amazing group.

I'm hoping Kirby overcomes his issues and realises his potential. Slotting him into that group would allow JDG to the midfield. Stephenson, WHE, Elliott and Kirby would be an amazing group. Likely I'll have to cool my heals on Kirby until at least 2019 but it is certainly something to look forward to.

 

[10571z]

I'm hoping Kirby overcomes his issues and realises his potential. Slotting him into that group would allow JDG to the midfield. Stephenson, WHE, Elliott and Kirby would be an amazing group. Likely I'll have to cool my heals on Kirby until at least 2019 but it is certainly something to look forward to.

We all hope but i mean in terms of this year. Elliot still a chance to be right for the back half of the season!

 

[legendstatus]

Why not both.


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[Pie eyed]

heading towards the back half of the year i was thinking if we could only get 1 of these 2 fit who would be the better option for us out of Moore and Elliott.

obviously this is based on IF* and on the assumption fully fit

Elliott for mine gets the nod, his proven that his consistently able to perform and impact the game. he adds to our list of flanker type players allbeit he won't go in the middle; he will compliment the rotations of our genuine midfield / Flankers.

A+
Pendles
Sidebottom
Howe

A
Treloar
Wells
Elliott
Crisp

B+
Adams
Phillips
Maynard
Hoskin Elliott

Need to learn how to add a poll....
Elliot for mine.
Moore needs to do a lot to earn a bit of respect on field.

 

[loki04]

I watched the RD 23 game again recently, and the HAwks rd 9 game - Elliot was superb, and if he can consistently play this way he will really add power to our fwd line even without quality speccys of the past.

Yeah as I said still a very good player and capable forward.

 

[loki04]

Just on Elliott, maybe he has changed his game but how many goals did he score in the games he played last year?

In 2017 played 17 games for 34 goals. (A very basic stat mind you and not his full impact)
Break downs for goals was,
4 goals once
3 goals 8 times
1 goal 6 times
0 goals twice.

As I said still very good player and capable forward just less spectacular.

 

[loki04]

becuase the point of the topic is to debate which one is more valuable to the team for this finals campaign

I'd have to side with a fit Elliott then.

 

[Go Woods]

Both, we're all craving to see Elliot carving it up again!! but I'm still 50/50 on Moore playing as a swing man...bit off track here but how's this for a future goal to goal line...
Dunn/McLarty
Sharenburg
Pendles
Moore
Lynch

 

[Pie eyed]

Moore everyday and Twice on Sundays.

Have plenty to Replace Elliot and only McLarty for Moore

So if McLarty is the only replacement for Moore, why do we field 18 players every week and McLarty has not played a senior game yet??

Elliot has the better exposed performance at the moment by a long way.
He never been dropped for form issues.
You could argue he has "more dire" injury problems, but not that he has more.

Don't get me wrong Dave, I want Moore to succeed at Collingwood, but he is a really long way from being a player who can even dream of demanding a high number on a contract, and if he is, he is deluded.
You and many others were only too happy to pile derision on Cloke when he was asking for big dollars and he was a Premiership Forward who had already been loyal to the club for a long period with the highest contested marking stats in the competition.

Moore has just a smidge above no exposed form fora key forward.

 

[Nebula1971]

 

[Leviathan Pie]

Elliott, by panels.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Elliot is X Factor. If we want finals action you need blokes like him.

DeGoey, Stephenson, WHE, Elliot is an amazing group.

As well put as one could put it.