List Mgmt. Morning, Joe! (was The Daniher (Probably Mega-)thread)

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Nunez

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The problem that I see is, if he remains the best option?
Because if he does, then we don’t go any further than we did this year.
With the Natural development of the younger boys, they will overtake him, but they need to be played to take that next step.
CEY could be the best option for all of 2021 and that wouldn't be a bad thing. He's a midfielder in his prime and the alternatives are much younger and more inexperienced. Not worth stressing over.
 

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CEY could be the best option for all of 2021 and that wouldn't be a bad thing. He's a midfielder in his prime and the alternatives are much younger and more inexperienced. Not worth stressing over.
Definitely not stressing.
That’s not my caper, I honestly just do not see the value in CEY at all and we need to find a better option.
 

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The problem that I see is, if he remains the best option?
Because if he does, then we don’t go any further than we did this year.
With the Natural development of the younger boys, they will overtake him, but they need to be played to take that next step.
In 2018-19 CEY averaged over 20 disposals a game, 11 contested, ~5 tackles and ~5 clearances. He's better than what he showed this year, limited by not getting much midfield time.

Playing Lyons role he'll be reasonable. Playing as a medium forward with some time in the midfield, he's not so good.
 

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In 2018-19 CEY averaged over 20 disposals a game, 11 contested, ~5 tackles and ~5 clearances. He's better than what he showed this year, limited by not getting much midfield time.

Playing Lyons role he'll be reasonable. Playing as a medium forward with some time in the midfield, he's not so good.
Yeah when he played as a medium forward he stank. As a defensive forward in the prelim he did well though.
 

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In 2018-19 CEY averaged over 20 disposals a game, 11 contested, ~5 tackles and ~5 clearances. He's better than what he showed this year, limited by not getting much midfield time.

Playing Lyons role he'll be reasonable. Playing as a medium forward with some time in the midfield, he's not so good.
He is a one trick pony, one thing that is pretty clear since Fages has taken over is that we don’t like one trick ponies.
Even Ely has been played out of his natural position this year because he was too inside and if he wants to get games in the Seniors needs to work on other areas of his game. He is young enough to be able to do it and successfully make changes to his game.
If CEY doesn’t offer anything in any other position on the ground then I really can’t see why we would persist.

I agree that if we have an injury to someone in the engine room, then he will more than likely be the option that will come into the team. Where he can play his more natural role. The only one he can play.
 

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Like the logic, I already had Clugga and Zorko in the A grade category. That would put the onus on Berry to step up to A grade level. Whilst I like Jarrod a lot, is he A grade potential or solid B+? Time will tell I guess. We’d then need in of the younger guys, Robertson or Smith to fill Berry’s role, are they capable of doing that in what would essentially be their first year. I hope so, but not confident of that.


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Like the logic, I already had Clugga and Zorko in the A grade category. That would put the onus on Berry to step up to A grade level. Whilst I like Jarrod a lot, is he A grade potential or solid B+? Time will tell I guess. We’d then need in of the younger guys, Robertson or Smith to fill Berry’s role, are they capable of doing that in what would essentially be their first year. I hope so, but not confident of that.


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We may find that some of the younger guys have Bailey / Starcevich type improvement years. Helped in part by the fact they were playing scratch matches against higher quality opponents rather than NEAFL teams.
 

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Inside story: How Lions nabbed Daniher from Dons, Swans


There was a lot of downtime in last year’s Gold Coast hub as AFL players tried their best to keep themselves distracted from the grind of the COVID-impacted season. For Essendon’s Joe Daniher it wasn’t Netflix that took the focus in his hotel room, he was busy entertaining suitors on his laptop.
Being a restricted free agent and a player in demand during the bizarre 2020 season meant the normal wooing process had a very different look.
There were no clandestine meetings in club boardrooms after hours or at player agent’s houses, it was all done electronically via Zoom.
Brisbane Lions coach Chris Fagan never recruits a player without meeting them in person and getting a feel for their character and values.
This time he had to make an exception to his rule.
Despite Daniher being just 90 minutes up the road from his Gabba office, circumstances meant the only way he could get face-to-face was on a computer screen.
That’s how the Lions “met” Daniher and remarkably they never actually crossed paths in person until a few months later when he’d declared his intention to become a Brisbane player.

It was a scenario 12 months earlier that no-one entertained.
Daniher appeared destined for Sydney, he’d been caught catching up with the Swans hierarchy during the year and had officially asked for a trade to the Harbour City.
But Sydney and Essendon could not agree on a deal, with the Bombers ultimately not playing ball despite the All-Australian forward pleading for a fresh start.
Watching with interest from afar was Lions list manager Dom Ambrogio who then raised Daniher’s name at a list-management meeting which included CEO Greg Swann.
“We had a discussion as a group,” Swann explained.
“The reasons that he wanted to go, such as getting out of Melbourne and going somewhere which is a bit off Broadway, that obviously worked for us also so we decided we should put our stake in the ground.”
Ambrogio made the call to Daniher‘s manager, Nigel Carmody from TLA, and expressed the club’s interest.
He wasn’t the only one who had been on the phone.
Geelong was in the market for a key forward and had the move-to-the-country sell down pat.

BOMBERS RETURN
There was a lot of water to go under the bridge for Daniher so he dusted himself off, put on a fake smile and returned to The Hangar to once again start another pre-season hoping for a miracle.
His body had let him down horribly over the previous two seasons.
After winning the best fairest in 2017, he’d played just 11 games across 2018 and 2019 because of a groin problem that simply would not go away.
He made some changes, escaping Melbourne for the rural setting of Daylesford and shedding a few kilos over the summer.
There was renewed optimism among his Essendon teammates that Daniher was getting his mojo back … and then COVID hit.
Everyone’s world was thrown upside down and suddenly Daniher found himself living out of a suitcase in Queensland.
He understood that getting back on the park was going to help his chances of getting a better contract should he decide to move on and finally the moons aligned and Daniher played in Round 14 against Hawthorn.

And it was a triumphant return with the Dons inspired by their full-forward’s three-goal performance, winning their first game in six weeks.
Daniher played three of the next four games to finish the season and end his 108-game career at Essendon — although at this stage he was the only one who knew that.
There had been a shift in the market of his suitors.
Sydney had lost favouritism with the Lance Franklin situation throwing them a curveball.
Buddy had not played a game all season and with Daniher’s injury history, having two high-priced key forwards with question marks around them on the list was making Swans officials nervous.
Geelong was also drifting given it had zeroed in on Greater Western Sydney star Jeremy Cameron, who had given the Cats a wink and a nudge that he was liking the idea of a move to Kardinia Park.
That left the Lions who’d already ramped up the charm offensive.
Daniher getting to spend a winter in the warmer climate of Queensland had clearly played into their hands as had the club’s renowned record with injured players.

INJURY CURE
Hawthorn premiership hero Grant Birchall had played just eight games in three years before heading to Brisbane in 2020. At the age of 32, he then played 16 games.
Lincoln McCarthy was a talented forward at Geelong who played 29 games in seven injury-interrupted seasons. Since his move north, he’s played 41 games in two seasons.
Both of them got on the phone to Daniher, regaling the magic of the Brisbane air which had miraculously saved both of their careers.
The Lions had another ace in the pack with its head of medical, Peter Blanch, having worked at Essendon and he was there when Daniher had his breakout 2017 season where he won the best and fairest, kicked 65 goals and was named in the forward pocket of the All-Australian team.
They ticked a lot of boxes but Daniher was still battling with breaking the strong family ties to Essendon, so he went off the grid.
Together with teammate James Stewart and their partners, they headed on a road trip around Queensland which took them inland to Birdsville, then up to Mt Isa and across to Harvey Bay.
It was the perfect way to clear the head although there was one minor problem, the communication in the outback wasn‘t the best.

While Brisbane had a finals campaign to focus on, they were starting to get toey about whether they’d landed the big fish.
Carmody tried to keep them in the loop as best he could but found himself spending plenty of time on Google maps working out where Daniher was camping out and trying to organise times when he was in a place where his mobile phone would work.
Eventually everything aligned on the communication front and Daniher finally gave the green light on October 7 — five days after the Lions had stunned reigning premier Richmond in the second qualifying final — for Carmody to inform Essendon that he wanted to play for Brisbane in 2021.
Three weeks later it was official.
The Bombers didn’t match Brisbane’s three-year contract offer for Daniher and received a first-round pick (it was No.7 but then moved to No.10 on draft night) as compensation.
So relieved and excited that the deal was done, Daniher, who is known for unconventional thinking, decided to set up digs in his new state immediately.
Instead of heading back to Victoria to pack up his house and organise his belongings, he got his brother to do that for him.
He never actually set foot back in his old state again until Brisbane’s game in Geelong three weeks ago.
 
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Good interview
Both speak very well
Could be a media gig for one of them

It's great not only how our high profile imports embrace the club when they play for us but how they seem to really retain their love of being a Lion after they are done.

Hodgey talks like he's always been a Lion.

Then there is Leigh (Matthews) , who (to me) for years has acted, talked and breathed Brisbane Lions.
 

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