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A mate of mine lent me a few videos of this show that he taped from fox, channel 113 I think. If you are a believer, it's quite eerie. If you're a non-believer, it's quite funny watching the so called "experts" soil their Y-fronts.
 

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A mate of mine lent me a few videos of this show that he taped from fox, channel 113 I think. If you are a believer, it's quite eerie. If you're a non-believer, it's quite funny watching the so called "experts" soil their Y-fronts.
They have been uncovered as frauds several times..... there was a web site somewhere which did an episode by ewpisode guide to the show showing all the flaws ... but I cant seem to find it

Do a web search for "Kreed Kafer" ..... it was a fictional anagram of "Derek Fakes" that one of the guys made up and let slip within earshot of Deren Ancorah.




Series six of Most Haunted was filmed at Bodmin gaol, a grim-looking place on Bodmin Moor in Cornwall. The episode is most memorable as the day Derek Acorah was set up by Dr Ciarán O'Keeffe, the team's parapsychologist.

To test his theory that Acorah was not receiving genuine messages from the dead, Ciarán invented a South African named Kreed Kafer from an anagram of the words 'Derek' and 'faker'. His nationality was chosen because of the name's spelling.



Ciarán passed the piece of paper bearing the name Kreed Kafer to another team member who walked Acorah around the property. During this, Acorah was told of a story about the South African, but it was impressed upon him that the information would not be used during the programme as there was nothing in the prison's records to verify it.

Ciarán hoped that Acorah would mention the name either during a séance or at the Ouija board., but could not believe his luck when Acorah was fully 'possessed' by the anagram!



Ciarán was not certain that the 'possession' would survive the editing suite, but when the episode was aired, the only thing that had been lost was his spelling of the name, with the caption writer guessing at 'Creed Kaifer' in the absence of any written guidance from historical records.

Since the programme's airing, arguments have raged across the internet, with those of us who had prior warning of the set up watching in amazement as Acorah's fans produce one wild theory after another to explain it all away.



Ranging from "the records of him were lost", through "it was spelt wrong" and "you can make an anagram out of anything" in the beginning, to "Ciarán made it up after it was filmed", to "Acorah probably picked it up psychically from Ciarán", when Ciarán came forward and revealed he was responsible for the anagram. In fact, the fans would grasp at anything rather than accept the more mundane truth that Acorah was given the name by a team member prior to filming.



No records from Bodmin Gaol have been lost - all remain in the archives at the Shire House and the Bodmin Library, both of which received numerous phone calls after the programme. No South African was ever in the prison in any capacity - in fact, the Union of South Africa did not come into existence until 1910.



Spurred on by his success with anagrams, Ciarán went on in the following episode, at Prideaux Place, to provide another one for Acorah to embrace. This time it was highwayman Rik Eedles - an anagram of 'Derek' and 'lies'.



Add to those The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe at Craigievar Castle, and the final nails in the coffin were knocked home by Ciarán, all of which he revealed when he was asked to give an interview to Matt Roper of the Mirror newspaper , published 28th September 2005.

 
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They have been uncovered as frauds several times..... there was a web site somewhere which did an episode by ewpisode guide to the show showing all the flaws ... but I cant seem to find it

Do a web search for "Kreed Kafer" ..... it was a fictional anagram of "Derek Fakes" that one of the guys made up and let slip within earshot of Deren Ancorah.




Series six of Most Haunted was filmed at Bodmin gaol, a grim-looking place on Bodmin Moor in Cornwall. The episode is most memorable as the day Derek Acorah was set up by Dr Ciarán O'Keeffe, the team's parapsychologist.

To test his theory that Acorah was not receiving genuine messages from the dead, Ciarán invented a South African named Kreed Kafer from an anagram of the words 'Derek' and 'faker'. His nationality was chosen because of the name's spelling.



Ciarán passed the piece of paper bearing the name Kreed Kafer to another team member who walked Acorah around the property. During this, Acorah was told of a story about the South African, but it was impressed upon him that the information would not be used during the programme as there was nothing in the prison's records to verify it.

Ciarán hoped that Acorah would mention the name either during a séance or at the Ouija board., but could not believe his luck when Acorah was fully 'possessed' by the anagram!



Ciarán was not certain that the 'possession' would survive the editing suite, but when the episode was aired, the only thing that had been lost was his spelling of the name, with the caption writer guessing at 'Creed Kaifer' in the absence of any written guidance from historical records.

Since the programme's airing, arguments have raged across the internet, with those of us who had prior warning of the set up watching in amazement as Acorah's fans produce one wild theory after another to explain it all away.



Ranging from "the records of him were lost", through "it was spelt wrong" and "you can make an anagram out of anything" in the beginning, to "Ciarán made it up after it was filmed", to "Acorah probably picked it up psychically from Ciarán", when Ciarán came forward and revealed he was responsible for the anagram. In fact, the fans would grasp at anything rather than accept the more mundane truth that Acorah was given the name by a team member prior to filming.



No records from Bodmin Gaol have been lost - all remain in the archives at the Shire House and the Bodmin Library, both of which received numerous phone calls after the programme. No South African was ever in the prison in any capacity - in fact, the Union of South Africa did not come into existence until 1910.



Spurred on by his success with anagrams, Ciarán went on in the following episode, at Prideaux Place, to provide another one for Acorah to embrace. This time it was highwayman Rik Eedles - an anagram of 'Derek' and 'lies'.



Add to those The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe at Craigievar Castle, and the final nails in the coffin were knocked home by Ciarán, all of which he revealed when he was asked to give an interview to Matt Roper of the Mirror newspaper , published 28th September 2005.

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So are they saying only the medium Derek is a fake or the whole show is a fake? I must admit I had my doubts about Derek after watching the last episode. One of the crew was supposedly attacked by a spook and the response from Derek was one of shock/surprise/horror regarding the incident. I found his reactions strange for someone who supposedly has a direct line to Elvis.

BTW if the whole show is a fake then Ciarans plan would seem irrelevant. Why would he try to catch out a medium if he already knows the whole show is already a fake?
 

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So are they saying only the medium Derek is a fake or the whole show is a fake? I must admit I had my doubts about Derek after watching the last episode. One of the crew was supposedly attacked by a spook and the response from Derek was one of shock/surprise/horror regarding the incident. I found his reactions strange for someone who supposedly has a direct line to Elvis.
They are definitely saying Derek is a fake. Aprt from the "Keed Kafer" one - they did another fake name ... an anagram of Derek Lies ... and there have been others.


But the implication of the sites was the show is fake. As I said I cant find the actual website - it appears to have vanished :( but on one occasion when they were doing a "live show" there was proof that everything was pre-recorded (there was actual tape of them rehearsing a conversation and getting the questions and timing right to make it look "live".

If I find the site (I was actually looking for it the other night - I like to see what bits are fake before I see an episode) I will post it on here or PM you.
 
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They are definitely saying Derek is a fake. Aprt from the "Keed Kafer" one - they did another fake name ... an anagram of Derek Lies ... and there have been others.


But the implication of the sites was the show is fake. As I said I cant find the actual website - it appears to have vanished :( but on one occasion when they were doing a "live show" there was proof that everything was pre-recorded (there was actual tape of them rehearsing a conversation and getting the questions and timing right to make it look "live".

If I find the site (I was actually looking for it the other night - I like to see what bits are fake before I see an episode) I will post it on here or PM you.
Cheers mate. Actually, come to think of it if they're saying Derek is a fake then the whole show has to be a fake. Otherwise, how would Derek know so much about the places they visit. Someone has to be feeding old derek the info.
 
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OK - the site is/was: http://www.mosthauntedexposed.co.uk/ however when I go there at the moment I'm getting a messagesaying that the owner of the site has it for sale ?? and the actual site doesnt seem to be there.

Maybe the sites crossed over to the other side. :eek: We need to ask Derek. He would know where it is.:D
 

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Otherwise, how would Derek know so much about the places they visit. Someone has to be feeding old derek the info.

Actually that was another one of the points they made:

In one episode Derek rocks up at a place and they say no-one knows where they will arrive and that no-one has any prior knowledge of the place ...... however the site I mentioned gave a reference to a book which Derek had written (a year or 2 prior to the episode being filmed) in which he wrote all about the site they were visting and his visit there. :)
 

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Maybe the sites crossed over to the other side. :eek: We need to ask Derek. He would know where it is.:D
I'll have to ask my spirit friends this weekend .. I have a few - ones called Jim, another Jack, and of course theirs Johnie.
 

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