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For me it's Jacobs and Talia, there isn't anyone on the list that can replace their positions
 
The order after 18 and especially 20 is a bit all over the place as I haven't seen a lot the new guys so no idea where to put them. I also probably have Thommo lower than most but we need to become less reliant on him. While making this I forgot about Jaensch and can't be bothered changing the whole order but I'd have him between 23-30.

1. Talia
2. Walker
3. Jacobs
4. Sloane
5. Smith
6. B. Crouch
7. Betts
8. Laird
9. Douglas
10. Lynch
11. Jenkins
12. Brown
13. Thompson
14. M. Crouch
15. Hartigan
16. Knight
17. Lever
18. Cameron
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19. Seedsman
20. Menzel
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21. CEY
22. Hampton
23. Henderson
24. Gore
25. Otten
26. ROB
27. Atkins
28. Van Berlo
29. Shaw
30. Cheney
31. McGovern
32. Grigg
33. Lyons
34. Wigg
35. Milera
36. Mackay
37. Lowden
38. Dear
39. Doedee
40. Kelly
41. Hunter
42. Beech
43. Ramsay
44. Keath
45. Greenwood
 
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Thinking outside the box for a moment but could ROB be more important than our teams rotating 22nd player? Sure he hasn't played for us but if Jacobs goes down he would be more important than a CEY, etc?
 

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Smithalicious said:
Thinking outside the box for a moment but could ROB be more important than our teams rotating 22nd player? Sure he hasn't played for us but if Jacobs goes down he would be more important than a CEY, etc?
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If Jacobs went down ROB would become no.1
 
Smithalicious said:
Thinking outside the box for a moment but could ROB be more important than our teams rotating 22nd player? Sure he hasn't played for us but if Jacobs goes down he would be more important than a CEY, etc?
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interesting point, but ROB's importance can only be so much before Sauce gets injured, he would instantly move into the top 10 if he did. He would play a much more important role than the 8th/9th mid, but I guess we also have Lowden and Hunter now.
 
Tex
Talia
Sauce
Smith
Sloane
Thompson*
B crouch *
Betts
Jenkins
Laird
Lynch
Etc

Thommo could be higher but almost gone and B crouch will be higher if fit

When smith plays well we usually win and same goes for sauce

If tex or Jenkins go down we are in strife as no KPF depth
 
Peter J said:
Interesting debate.

If most important = hardest to replace then it's a tie between Talia and Walker.

In terms of our barometer - if he's playing well we're playing well, I would go for Smith.

Last year in particular our fortunes seemed tied to his. He started in with dominant games v North and Coll before the concussion. When he went off that day our fortunes seemed to turn around right at that moment.

He started to regain form later in the year and we had a great run into finals - then the ankle v Geel set him (and us) back again.

The final was excellent but, having now seen the Hawks game, he seemed to send us on our way again with that kick in.

Just feels like when he is on so are we.
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Yep reckon smith and Jacobs are our 2 barometers . When smith plays well we are a different side to when he doesn't
 
Top 5 because after that things begin to grey.

1. Jacobs...if he goes down so do we; there is no replacement.
2. Smith...I think he is the lynchpin in the backline and calls (for at least two years) for him to go in the middle should,and have so far, fallen on deaf ears for good reason IMO
3. Laird...our hardest and most courageous player.
4. Walker...can change a game with the "inspirational".
5. Talia...guaranteed to win his position.
 
Mr MysteryGuest said:
interesting point, but ROB's importance can only be so much before Sauce gets injured, he would instantly move into the top 10 if he did. He would play a much more important role than the 8th/9th mid, but I guess we also have Lowden and Hunter now.
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What's the probability of Sauce being injured? Then calculate the expected value of ROB's importance.
 
1. Cameron
this fella is the whole box of chocolates in my opinion...his injury free development is gonna lead to a highlights reel of epic proportions.
2. Betts
Adelaide's talisman...doing the unthinkable is what we all crave.
3. Tex
El Capitano... all walk taller with this man about.
4. Talia
the glove... will need to find 3-4 more goals a week if he goes down.
5. Sauce
right about to peak 50-75 games at the top of the heap.
6. B Crouch
another decent set back will relegate him to an also ran...
7. Lever
this bloke means business.
8. Douglas
needs to dominate from here in (next 50 games).
 

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1. Jacobs - We'd be stuffed without him. He's irreplaceable
2. Talia - Ditto, holds our defence together
3. Tex - Leadership and our number one forward, hard to replace
4. Sloane - With Danger gone, he now becomes even more crucial
5. Smith - Best kick on the team
6. B. Crouch - Plays a pivotal role in the midfield now
7. Betts - Quality small forward and provides a spark
8. Jenkins - Structure
9. Lynch - Plays an important role
10. Brown - Crucial to shut down an opposition's small forward
 
Peter J said:
Interesting debate.

If most important = hardest to replace then it's a tie between Talia and Walker.

In terms of our barometer - if he's playing well we're playing well, I would go for Smith.

Last year in particular our fortunes seemed tied to his. He started in with dominant games v North and Coll before the concussion. When he went off that day our fortunes seemed to turn around right at that moment.

He started to regain form later in the year and we had a great run into finals - then the ankle v Geel set him (and us) back again.

The final was excellent but, having now seen the Hawks game, he seemed to send us on our way again with that kick in.

Just feels like when he is on so are we.
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You can also add to the barometer the ridiculous stat of our % of winning games with Douglas in the side vs him out. I can't remember what it exactly was but it was very high. I think though now that Smith has surpassed him in the way you have stated a barometer should be considered.
 
I think Jacobs could be effectively replaced by O'Brien for a short term injury.

However when Talia goes down we look completely hopeless relying on Hartigan, Lever and Shaw/Cheney/Otten/Kelly. In the game against Gold Coast where this happened, GC's two power forwards (Dixon and Lynch) dominated (though luckily their other forwards weren't great and so we managed to win).

I'd say Talia is our most important player
 
Consolidated rankings so far

Rank Player Ave
1 Jacobs 2.1
2 Walker 2.5
3 Talia 2.8
4 Sloane 4.0
5 Smith 4.4
6 Betts 6.3
7 B Crouch 6.4
8 Laird 8.6
9 Jenkins 8.8
10 Thompson 9.0
11 Douglas 9.5
12 Lynch 10.6
13 Lever 12.3
14= Hartigan 13.0
14= Brown 13.0
14= Cameron 13.0
17 Knight 17.0
18 M Crouch 18.3
19 Menzel 19.0
20 Jaensch 20.0
21 Seedman 20.3
22 Hampton 22.3
23 Ellis-Yolmen 24.3
24 Otten 24.7
25 Henderson 25.0
26 Lyons 27.0
27 Atkins 27.3
28= O'Brien 27.7
28= Cheney 27.7
30 van Berlo 28.0
31 Grigg 29.7
32 Mackay 31.7
33 Shaw 32.7
34 Gore 33.0
35 McGovern 33.7
36 Kelly 35.0
37 Lowden 35.3
38 Dear 37.0
39 Milera 37.7
40 Wigg 38.7
41 Doedee 39.7
42 Hunter 42.7
43 Ramsay 43.0
44 Beech 43.3
45= Keath 44.7
45= Greenwood 44.7
 

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