Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Roughead and Rioli all have 4 AFL premiership medals too now. ****en Hawthorn.
Birchall is the other one (6 Hawks in total) with 4.
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Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Roughead and Rioli all have 4 AFL premiership medals too now. ****en Hawthorn.
Birchall is the other one (6 Hawks in total) with 4.
Micheal Tuck clearly as a premiership player but Ron Barassi as combined playing, then coaching career, has everyone covered in the league history.
Whom has won the most premierships as a player without ever playing in a preliminary final ?
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Funny he never won a Brownlow thoughKB was club champion in each premiership he played in. Impressive
Has any current player matched Michael Tuck at the same stage of his career?
Funny he never won a Brownlow though
Perhaps there was a Sydney depth element to Richmond back then where players took votes off each other
Umpires were biased back then probably also, but yeah, was astounding Lethal never won one considering how prolific he was.Nah, more a case of the umpires never having much clue when giving their votes.
Leigh Matthews had a heap of games where he had 30+ possessions and kicked 3+ goals and didnt get any votes. Sometimes he'd get 30+ possessions and kick 6+ goals and maybe get 1 vote.
I think he even had a game with 40+ possessions and 10+ goals and got 2 votes.
Umpires were biased back then probably also, but yeah, was astounding Lethal never won one considering how prolific he was.
If they didn't like said player, they wouldn't vote for them, Diesel Williams will tell everyone for example.
Hodge, Mitchell, Lewis, Roughead and Rioli all have 4 AFL premiership medals too now. ****en Hawthorn.
I think the week after Hird called an umpire a cheat he had 30+ possessions and kicked some goals and was easily BOG but didnt get a vote.
But anyway, Michael Tuck wins this thread.
Premierships as Players
12 Mick Athanasiou (St Marys N.T.F.L.) 1983/84, 1984/85, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96, 1996/97.
12 Cyril Rioli (St Marys N.T.F.L.) 1983/84, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96, 1996/97, 2002/03
11 Noel Long (St Marys N.T.F.L.)1983/84, 1984/85, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96.
10 Dennis Dunn (St Marys N.T.F.L.) 1984/85, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96
10 Ted Liddy (St Marys N.T.F.L.) 1977/78, 1978/79, 1983/84, 1984/85, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1993/94
10 A.E “Topsy” Waldron (Norwood S.A.) 1878, 1879, 1880, 1881, 1882, 1883, 1887, 1888, 1889, 1891.
9 B.Carter (North Launceston, Mersey, Cananore, Tas.) 1905, 1906,
1908, 1909, 1910, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1914.
9 James “Scotty” Doig (East Fremantle W.A.) 1900, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1906, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1911.
9 G.P. Motley (Port Adelaide S.A.) 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1962, 1963, 1965
9 Chris Gowans (Central Districts) 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010
9 James Gowans (Central Districts) 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010
9 Ignatius Vallejo (St Marys N.T.F.L.) 2002/03, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2007/08, 2008/09, 2009/10, 2012/13, 2013/14, 2015/16
Premierships as Coach
11 - John (K.J.) Taylor (St Marys N.T.F.L.) 1983/84, 1984/85, 1985/86, 1986/87,
1987/88, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96. In season 1988/89
St Marys went through the season underfeated but did not make the Grand Final.
In season 1992/93 St Marys won the Second Semi by 68 points only
to loose the Grand Final by 51 points to Wanderers who came from fourth. John
Coached St Marys for 13 Seasons.
10 - Jack Oatey (3 With Norwood S.A.) 1946, 1948, 1950 As a Playing coach.
(7 with Sturt S.A.) 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1974, 1976 all as a Non
Playing coach.
9 - Bruce Carter (3 with North Launceston N.T.F.A. Tas.) 1905, 1906, 1912,
(1 with Mersey N.T.F.A. Tas.) 1908, (5 with Cananore T.F.L. Tas.)
1909, 1910, 1911, 1913, 1914 all as a Playing coach
9 - Foster “ Fos” Williams (Port Adelaide S.A.) 1951, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958 Playing
Coach 1962, 1963, 1965 Non playing coach.
8 - Phil Matson (1 With Subiaco W.A.) 1913 as a Playing coach and
(7 with East Perth W.A.) 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, 1923, 1926 as a Playing coach and
1927 as a Non Playing coach.
8 - Jock Mchale (Collingwood V.F.L.) 1917, 1919, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935, 1936 all as a
Non Playing coach. He coached Collingwood for 39 years from 1912-1949
and the 4 (1927-1930) in a row remain a V.F.L. /A.F.L. record still.
The Brownlow was a lot more unpredictable then, possibly having only one umpire made strange biases possible. The classic was Geoff Raines in 1980 - won best and fairest in a premiership side, favourite for the Brownlow and didn't poll a single vote! I also have a vague memory of hearing that, in one of Richmond's premiership years in the 1970s, KB was favourite but didn't win and a drunk Graeme Richmond went nuts at the ceremony.Funny he never won a Brownlow though
Perhaps there was a Sydney depth element to Richmond back then where players took votes off each other
Luke Hodge says hi.Macca and Gary Ayers are the only multiple Norm Smith winners
Umpires were biased back then probably also, but yeah, was astounding Lethal never won one considering how prolific he was.
If they didn't like said player, they wouldn't vote for them, Diesel Williams will tell everyone for example.
His father, Cyril srIs there another Cyril Rioli?
He can do alot of things but playing in premierships 5-6 years before he was born is probably beyond him.
Luke Hodge says hi.
Not much has changed ey.Funny he never won a Brownlow though
Perhaps there was a Sydney depth element to Richmond back then where players took votes off each other
Is there another Cyril Rioli?
He can do alot of things but playing in premierships 5-6 years before he was born is probably beyond him.