Most premierships no matter the competition

[Colonial]

I got to thinkling, yes us Westies can think, if Premiership tallies were based of all state competitions (AFL included with VFL) then what would the rankings be??

We all know the VFL/AFL results but am wondering about the other state leagues and how they all ad up in a full list.

Personally have been trying to find the NSWFL results till then. Any help would be great.

 

[Colonial]

This is what I have so far. (yes Port Adelaide has only the VFL/AFL cups, will change as I find the details.)

Im not saying that UNSW is the winner just putting it all together. Need the other states though to form it all up.

UNSW/ES (NSWAFL) 24
Newtown (NSWAFL) 19
Essendon (VFL) 16
Carlton (VFL) 16
Collingwood (VFL) 15
North Shore (NSW AFL) 13
Melbourne (VFL) 12
Hawthorn (VFL) 11
Richmond (VFL) 10
Western Suburbs (NSWAFL) 10
Geelong (VFL) 9
Fitzroy (VFL) 8
Campbelltown (NSWAFL) 7
Paddington (NSWAFL) 7
Sydney (NSWAFL) 7
Sydney/Sth Melbourne (VFL) 5
St George (NSWAFL) 5
North Melbourne (VFL) 4
West Coast (VFL) 3
Brisbane Lions (VFL) 3
Pennant Hills (NSWAFL) 3
South Sydney (NSWAFL) 3
Sydney Naval (NSWAFL) 3
East Coast Eagles (NSWAFL) 3
Adelaide (VFL) 2
Balmain (NSWAFL) 2
YMCA (NSWAFL) 2
St Kilda (VFL) 1
Port Adelaide (Power/Magpies) (Combined) 1
Western Bulldogs (VFL) 1
Holroyd-Parramatta (NSWAFL) 1
Manly Warringah (NSWAFL) 1
Sydney Uni (NSWAFL) 1
Fremantle (VFL) 0
University (Melbourne) (VFL) 0
Brisbane Bears (VFL) 0
Gold Coast (VFL) 0
Greater Western Sydney (VFL)0

 

[Colonial]

Added QLDAFL

UNSW/ES (NSWAFL) 24
Newtown (NSWAFL) 19
Essendon (VFL) 16
Carlton (VFL) 16
Collingwood (VFL) 15
Mayne (QLDAFL) 15
North Shore (NSW AFL) 13
SouthPort (QLDAFL) 13
Melbourne (VFL) 12
Windsor (QLDAFL) 12
Hawthorn (VFL) 11
Richmond (VFL) 10
Western Suburbs (NSWAFL) 10
Geelong (VFL) 9
Fitzroy (VFL) 8
Morningside (QLDAFL) 8
Campbelltown (NSWAFL) 7
Paddington (NSWAFL) 7
Sydney (NSWAFL) 7
Kedron (QLDAFL) 7
Coorparoo (QLDAFL) 6
Sandgate (QLDAFL) 6
Sydney/Sth Melbourne (VFL) 5
St George (NSWAFL) 5
Zillmere/Northern Eagles/Windsor-Zillmere (QLDAFL) 5
Western Districts/West Brisbane (QLDAFL) 5
Brisbane (QLDAFL) 5
North Melbourne (VFL) 4
South Brisbane (QLDAFL) 4
West Coast (VFL) 3
Brisbane Lions (VFL) 3
Pennant Hills (NSWAFL) 3
South Sydney (NSWAFL) 3
Sydney Naval (NSWAFL) 3
East Coast Eagles (NSWAFL) 3
Valley (QLDAFL) 3
Wilston - Grange (QLDAFL) 3
Adelaide (VFL) 2
Balmain (NSWAFL) 2
YMCA (NSWAFL) 2
City (QLDAFL) 2
Locomotives (QLDAFL) 2
Wynnum (QLDAFL) 2
Mt Gravatt (QLDAFL) 2
St Kilda (VFL) 1
Port Adelaide (Power/Magpies) (Combined) 1
Western Bulldogs (VFL) 1
Holroyd-Parramatta (NSWAFL) 1
Manly Warringah (NSWAFL) 1
Sydney Uni (NSWAFL) 1
Suncoast Lions/Lions Reserves (QLDAFL) 1
Workshops (QLDAFL) 1
Fremantle (VFL) 0
University (Melbourne) (VFL) 0
Brisbane Bears (VFL) 0
Gold Coast (VFL) 0
Greater Western Sydney (VFL) 0

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Better add the VFA - gives us another 4!

 

[finders]

The VFA ones should be added to all the Victorian AFL/VFL teams as they all started out in the VFA and it was the only State comp from 1877 - 1897

 

[Kwality]

Freo in the 1800s split to become East & South Freo in the 1900s - how are they looking?

WA footy history suggests they can play a bit those mongrels from the Port.

... dont remember Adelaide FC ever playing in the VFL.

 

[Justinpa1]

Norwood in the SANFL has 29 Premierships

 

[fabulousphil]

Mines Rovers FC in Kalgoolie has won 40 premierships, next cab off the rank (Railways) has won 28.

Rovers FC in the Mt Isa League ( QLD) has won 24 premierships since 1967

 

[fabulousphil]

South launceston has won 33 premierships, since 1883, it has been in and out of the state league etc over the journey.

 

[Engimal]

South launceston has won 33 premierships, since 1883, it has been in and out of the state league etc over the journey.

But surely that's including NTFA premierships, which weren't/aren't a state league?

 

[madmug]

North Hobart Football club. 27 premierships.

 

[Engimal]

North Hobart Football club. 27 premierships.

Not all of of those were won in a state league though.

 

[Colonial]

Sorry havent been looking in. Am only thinking of state league (as VFL is state league). Yes am looking into VFA in the beginning as well.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This site hasn't been updated since 2008 but you will find a s**t load of data from comps all around Oz up until the end of the 2008 season.

http://www.oocities.org/jsmooth_00001/Footyfacts.html

MOST PREMIERSHIPS
36 by Port Adelaide (SA)
29 by East Fremantle (WA)
Highest Known Totals:
42 by South Bunbury (WA)
40 by North [King Island] (Tasmania)
38 by Irishtown (Tasmania)
38 by Cummins Ramblers/Cockaleechie (SA)
37 by South Gawler (SA)
37 by Mines Rovers (WA)

 

[The_Wookie]

Freo in the 1800s split to become East & South Freo in the 1900s - how are they looking?

WA footy history suggests they can play a bit those mongrels from the Port.

... dont remember Adelaide FC ever playing in the VFL.

Fremantle also had two versions - Fremantle which ended in 1886, and then Unions, which changed its name to Fremantle in 1889, and disbanded at the end if 1899.

Fremantle did NOT split. Would have been funny too, given that both Fremantle and East Fremantle played the 1898 and 1899 seasons. Fremantle left the league in 1899 with big debts and South Fremantle joined in 1900 - with many players from the Fremantle football club.

 

[fabulousphil]

This site hasn't been updated since 2008 but you will find a s**t load of data from comps all around Oz up until the end of the 2008 season.

http://www.oocities.org/jsmooth_00001/Footyfacts.html

MOST PREMIERSHIPS
36 by Port Adelaide (SA)
29 by East Fremantle (WA)
Highest Known Totals:
42 by South Bunbury (WA)
40 by North [King Island] (Tasmania)
38 by Irishtown (Tasmania)
38 by Cummins Ramblers/Cockaleechie (SA)
37 by South Gawler (SA)
37 by Mines Rovers (WA)

Just guessing here, couldn't be bothered looking someone else will , but i think King Island has only 2 maybe 3 teams in their league.

Was recently in Kalgoolie, took a heap of photos of Mines Rovers ground which they share with Boulder, and BTW took a stack of photos of the pubs up and down Burt St, and the Recreation Hotel opposite Mines ground looks a bloody good pub.

Will eventually add them to here ....

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/pubs-associated-with-stadiums.1018614/[/quote]

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I think it would be a better question to ask who has won the most First tier premierships.
Up to I guess around 1985 the VFL, SANFL and the WAFL were all considered first Tier football. No other comps to my knowledge were ranked in that bracket.
The VFL was the strongest of those 3 leagues. But I think any player who won a premiership with a WAFl or SANFL club pre 1985 would of thought it was as good as it gets and that they had climbed the mountain.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I think it would be a better question to ask who has won the most First tier premierships.
Up to I guess around 1985 the VFL, SANFL and the WAFL were all considered first Tier football. No other comps to my knowledge were ranked in that bracket.
The VFL was the strongest of those 3 leagues. But I think any player who won a premiership with a WAFl or SANFL club pre 1985 would of thought it was as good as it gets and that they had climbed the mountain.

Just being a bit pedantic but that would be pre 1987 as WCE didn't enter until 1987 season. You could also argue pre 1991 as SANFL comp was still strong until the end of 1990 and the crows going into the AFL in 1991.

Then again when South Melbourne moved to Sydney in 1982 so is that the line?

Port at end of 1986 had won 27 flags. Port at end of 1990 had won 30.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Just being a bit pedantic but that would be pre 1987 as WCE didn't enter until 1987 season. You could also argue pre 1991 as SANFL comp was still strong until the end of 1990 and the crows going into the AFL in 1991.

Then again when South Melbourne moved to Sydney in 1982 so is that the line?

Port at end of 1986 had won 27 flags. Port at end of 1990 had won 30.

Yes mate I was probably trying to work on about the time before the huge influx of players went to Victoria for the big bucks. Players have always gone but it was around then that huge numbers went.

 

[Gibbke]

South launceston has won 33 premierships, since 1883, it has been in and out of the state league etc over the journey.

Heh...I wish...!

You're thinking of North Launceston or Launceston, who've both racked up a huge number of flags in the NTFA, and a few between them in the TFL and TSL. City-South also won about the same number of flags, about 30, but never played in the state league, merging with East Launceston (who were selected to make the TFL and only played seven games as themselves) in 1986 to become South Launceston. They played out the rest of the season as a brand new team and then never made any finals appearances at that level until last season (which they knew was their last two months before they won the flag, because they've been axed for failing to meet TSL financial criteria!). Between state leagues, they won back to back flags in 1998-99 in the NTFl, and from 2014, they will play in the modern version of the NTFA, which is basically the old Launceston amateurs comp. The Western Storm, who are Tassie's entry in next year's Foxtel Cup, are replacing South as a brand new entity, and are in the cup because most of South's premiership team have crossed over to them...

I've been meaning to go and find the exact Tassie flag numbers since seeing this thread when it started, so I'll get onto it...!

 

[fabulousphil]

Heh...I wish...!

You're thinking of North Launceston or Launceston, who've both racked up a huge number of flags in the NTFA, and a few between them in the TFL and TSL. City-South also won about the same number of flags, about 30, but never played in the state league, merging with East Launceston (who were selected to make the TFL and only played seven games as themselves) in 1986 to become South Launceston. They played out the rest of the season as a brand new team and then never made any finals appearances at that level until last season (which they knew was their last two months before they won the flag, because they've been axed for failing to meet TSL financial criteria!). Between state leagues, they won back to back flags in 1998-99 in the NTFl, and from 2014, they will play in the modern version of the NTFA, which is basically the old Launceston amateurs comp. The Western Storm, who are Tassie's entry in next year's Foxtel Cup, are replacing South as a brand new entity, and are in the cup because most of South's premiership team have crossed over to them...

I've been meaning to go and find the exact Tassie flag numbers since seeing this thread when it started, so I'll get onto it...!

Your right, I included premierships when it was called Cornwall, City, City-South, but instead of following the OP about State league premierships, i got a bit carried away and started searching for the most premierships of any club, in any comp.

In fact i discovered a team called Liverpool Football club playing in Tasmania, before the Liverpool FC in England even existed. .

Formed in 1887 as Liverpool FC, which changed its name to Kermandie, i believe it is in recess now.

The soccer version fromed in 1892 i believe.

 

[Arwib]

Ainslie in Canberra has won 24 premierships since the founding of the club in the ACTAFL in 1927 (the league started in 1924, Queanbeyan and Eastlake are older, other clubs from those days are defunct). That's the record here.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

It interesting to see what has happen in SA and WA re premierships of the 3 dominate teams over different periods

Port 1877-1945 13 flags + 1946-1990 17 flags + 1991-2013 6 flags = 36
(dominate periods
1903-14 5 flags in 03, 06, 10 13-14 Lost GF 04-05, 07, 09, 11-12, + 15
1951-65 10 flags in 51, 54-55-56-57-58-59, 62-63, 65 lost GF in 53, 64 + 66-67-68
1977-81 4 flags in 77, 79-80-81 [lost GF 76] and
1988-1999 9 flags in 88-89-90, 92, 94-95-96, 98-99 lost GF in 97)

Norwood 1878-1945 19 flags + 1946-1990 7 flags + 1991-2013 3 flags = 29
(dominate periods
1878-94 11 flags in , 78-79-80-81-82-83, 87-88-89, 91, 94 ( no GF's in these days but finished 2nd in 84-85, 90, 93, + 95-96)
1922-29 4 flags in 22-23, 25, 29 Lost GF 28 + lost GF's in 20-21 before flags and
1975-84 4 flags in 75, 78, 82, 84)

East Fremantle 1898-1945 20 flags + 1946-1986 6 flags + 1987-2013 3 flags = 29
(dominate periods
1900-14 10 flags in , 00, 02-03-04, 06, 08-09-10-11, 14 Lost GF's in 99, 01, 05, 07, 12 (1899 and 1901 finished 2nd no GF)
1925-46 10 flags in 25, 28-29-30-31, 33, 37, 43, 45-46 Lost GF's 34, 38, 39, 41, 44
1992-98 3 flags in 92, 94, 98 lost GF's 97 )

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

St Mary's in NTFL / AFL-NT have 29 flags since they joined in 1952

• 1954/55, 1955/56, 1958/59, 1959/60...........................................
• 1961/62, 1965/66, 1966/67........................................................ Lost GF 60/61, 62/63-63/64, 67/68-68/69-69/70-70/71
• 1971/72, 1977/78, 1978/79.........................................................Lost GF 72/73 76/77
• 1983/84, 1984/85, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1989/90...................Lost GF 81/82-82/83
• 1990/91, 1991/92, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96, 1996/97...................Lost GF 92/93 97/98-98/99
• 2002/03, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2007/08, 2008/09, 2009/10...................Lost GF 05/06 10/11
• 2012/13

 

[Engimal]

So just to clear something, are we or are we not only counting state leagues?