Most Valuable Forward

[sutcl09]

J.B for me.

 

[Wally Carter]

If they were all the same age, I'd take Brown.

 

[The Wrecker]

Michael 'Juice' Newton.

 

[Knight Ryders]

Why can't I chose Scott Gumbleton?

In all seriousness, if you talk about consistency, effort and outcome, you can't go past Riewoldt. He is rated highly, but is still under rated in my mind.

Franklin could fulfill this mantle for the next five years and last year could be exactly the year he needed to have. Until then, he probably took his talent forgranted.

Browndog is somewhat overrated in mind. That is, he is overrated in his output compared to his comtemporaries, but he does have the most presence in the game since the great man Wayne Carey. How do we measure this? May be the next couple of seasons will tell as he had superstars left, right and centre when the Lions won three straight premierships.

I also think there will be a fair argument for Goodes after this season, but then again, he does play for Sydney....

 

[Knight Ryders]

If they were all the same age, I'd take Brown.

I respect your decision, but if I was leading up the recruitment department at Essendon, Franklin would be my number 1 pick. The sky is the limit so to speak.

 

[winty]

Cameron Mooney.

Case in point - the game in 2006 vs West Coast.

Mooney plays at CHF for the first two and a bit quarters - Geelong go out to a 9 goal lead.

Harley gets injured and Mooney is moved to CHB to cover him. With no focal point to kick to, Geelong is outscored by 10 goals for the rest of the match.

 

[Fear0411]

Cameron Mooney.

Case in point - the game in 2006 vs West Coast.

Mooney plays at CHF for the first two and a bit quarters - Geelong go out to a 9 goal lead.

Harley gets injured and Mooney is moved to CHB to cover him. With no focal point to kick to, Geelong is outscored by 10 goals for the rest of the match.

wow ok then hawks beat richmond in 2009 buddy gets 5 goals and suspended

hawks vs essendon buddy isnt there we lose by 17 points

5 goals = 30

30-17 = 13 therefore hawks should have beat essendon by 13

 

[PUSSIES_07_FLAG]

Blondie St.Nick

Valuable but borderline unhealthy reliance. When he can't kick em, the Saints will lose.

This suites me fine.

 

[dockers_bengals]

Surprised no-ones mentioned play anywhere Pav
AA as CHF,AA as CHB and AA as midfielder.

 

[AG]

Surprised no-ones mentioned play anywhere Pav
AA as CHF,AA as CHB and AA as midfielder.

When?

 

[PUSSIES_07_FLAG]

Surprised no-ones mentioned play anywhere Pav
AA as CHF,AA as CHB and AA as midfielder.

Sadly for Pavlich. His value is used in such a way that he keeps Fremantle from being a bottom 4 club. Hardly something to be thrilled about.

The others on the list have dragged their teams to and through finals and other big matches.

 

[AG]

The others on the list have dragged their teams to and through finals and other big matches.

Pav got his team to a PF. Not really his fault he has played in an ordinary team for his career. Plus he plays for an interstate side so there aren't as many big MCG blockbuster type games to perform in.

 

[dockers_bengals]

Sadly for Pavlich. His value is used in such a way that he keeps Fremantle from being a bottom 4 club. Hardly something to be thrilled about.

The others on the list have dragged their teams to and through finals and other big matches.

What does it matter where the team is on the ladder?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Stop standing so close to me. It's a two way street you know.

Oh, OK then . It's just that I was beginning to enjoy our closeness.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

wow ok then hawks beat richmond in 2009 buddy gets 5 goals and suspended

hawks vs essendon buddy isnt there we lose by 17 points

5 goals = 30

30-17 = 13 therefore hawks should have beat essendon by 13

Thanks for this. That's exactly how football works.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Franklin, he is needed by his team every week to kick bags of goals

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I agree, but what about Paul Chapman, surely most would rate him in the top 5 for Most Valuable forwards in the AFL. Let's face it, if he was fit in the 08 GF, Geelong would have 3 flags in a row now, can't tell me that's not valuable.

Riewoldt was my vote though, more important to his team then any other single player in the game.

So in your head it goes, Brown, Reiwoldt, Franklin, Fevola....and Chapman?
Surely not.

 

[SirJimi05]

Age has no bearing on the MVP so not sure why people are mentioning it.

Riewoldt > Brown > Franklin > Fevola.

Riewoldt was the MVP of 2009 imo so he would definitely be the MVF.

 

[flamethrower]

Nick Riewoldt is more important to the Saints than any other forward is to their club.

Buddy is next but as yet doesn't have the consistency in performance to match Roo. He is more likely to win a game off his own boot though.

 

[Spook]

The question is too narrow.

Value relative to what?

Their Value of contributing to their team winning games and relative to each other.

Is that to hard for you?

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Age has no bearing on the MVP so not sure why people are mentioning it.

As far as I can tell with the interpretation of most posters, this thread has nothing to do with the MVP award, it is about the most valuable forward at this point in time. Age carries a lot of weight when deciding that.

Franklin has a lot of work to do over the next 5 years to have the career that any of the other three have had, but the fact he will still be playing in 5-10 years puts his value to his club higher than the other three for me.

I would of said the same about Reiwoldt 5-6 years ago when comparing him to the likes of Lloyd, Lynch and Tredrea...

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Thanks for this. That's exactly how football works.

I dare say it was a piss-take on the post above it. But I couldn't be sure...

I agree with you, Im sure any spud could look like his clubs most valuable player with the right circumstances and spin.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

A key forward will always be more valuable than a mid/small forward.

That's funny Geelong has won 2 or the last 3 flags and Johnson and Chapman have each won the Norm Smith.

They're the best small/mid combination in the league and Geelong's key forwards are constantly ridiculed on these boards by supporters of every side.

Ablett, Scarlett, Ottens etc are often cited as being Geelong's most important players but if you took both Chapman and Johnson out then Geelong wouldn't be contenders.

Back to the limited choice thrown up in the OP. It would be either Brown or Franklin for me. Brown can drag you over the line and has presence in spades while Franklin can win you the almost unwinnable.

 

[ballanFYNE]

The question is too narrow.

Value relative to what?

well Franklin simply because he kicks the most goals.

 

[Wally Carter]

well Franklin simply because he kicks the most goals.

Possibly, but he offers little else.

It's not as if the Hawks crumbers make a living at his feet.