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PhatBoy said:
Umpires. Of course. It’s always the umpires.

Nothing as been richmond’s Forte for most of cotchin’s career, so quit giving it the biggins because your team finally achieved one thing.
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So using that criteria we can comfortably say that Selwood is a failure as a Captain and Danger as a player as they at this stage have achieved nothing but finals failure.

The point is that Cotchin as Captain led our team from years of failure to being Premiers, what has Selwood done as Captain apart from winning the free kick count year after year.
 

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Tiger2709 said:
So using that criteria we can comfortably say that Selwood is a failure as a Captain and Danger as a player as they at this stage have achieved nothing but finals failure.

The point is that Cotchin as Captain led our team from years of failure to being Premiers, what has Selwood done as Captain apart from winning the free kick count year after year.
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I’m sure Selwood can console himself with three premiership medals
 
PhatBoy said:
I’m sure Selwood can console himself with three premiership medals
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Absolutely, he has been a very good and lucky player, started at Geelong at just the right time to be involved in 3 flags, of course leading a team to a flag is another level, hopefully Cotchin will add a couple more to his resume before he retires.
 
PhatBoy said:
Perhaps. Neither did Robbie Flower. Neither did Nick Riewoldt. So we can pretty much deduce that if you haven’t won a flag, you’re s**t.
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Not at all, although failure in finals was always what Cotchin was judged on, many great players never win a flag, unfortunately ĺthose that do usually are judged on a higher level by most supporters when loking back on their careers.
 

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Tiger2709 said:
Not at all, although failure in finals was always what Cotchin was judged on, many great players never win a flag, unfortunately ĺthose that do usually are judged on a higher level by most supporters when loking back on their careers.
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Thats right.

When we were losing finals it was because Cotchin was s**t

After he strapped the team on his back and led us to a premiership, he was still s**t

It is a joke, and the comparison is not even close anymore.

Paul roos agrees
 
Cameron Ling captained a flag. He was a good leader. But it didn’t suddenly elevate him beyond his status.

Tom Harley captained two flags. It doesn’t make him General Patton, or suddenly turn him into Matthew Scarlett and Steven Silvagni’s bastard child in defence.
 
15th to premiers isn't that convincing. Lets see how long they can hold up to ensure it wasn't a fluke or more a factor with other teams.
 
Barry_Badrinath said:
To be fair Cotchin was better over the first 7 years of their careers. Dangerfield only went past him in 2015.
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And selwood was beyond all of them over the first 7 years of their careers. Both Selwood and Danger have constantly made the top 5. Undoubtedly the best duo in the comp until GWS/Melbourne super rated lists become unstappable.
 
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