Motlop --- good choice/fit for the Crows? (chooses Port)

Discussion in 'Adelaide' started by CrowBloke, Oct 6, 2017.

Put it out there
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Do you want AFC to do their best to get Motlop?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Meh

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  1. Huntercrow

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    Wow is this guy the best we can do in trade week? I read Scott wanted him to stay!

    I wonder if real or just talking up his value?
     

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  2. CrowBloke

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    :thumbsu:
    I agree that Betts (and the AFC and the AFL) have been excellent in that regard --- wasn't enough to keep CC though.
     
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    A partner not supportive of your career is only going to lead to tears. We also have maccas still working with us. I have no doubts about our culture. Meanwhile the mob down the road are attacking policemen.
     
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    1) Laziness appears to be the case, doesn't it? JJ would be a fearsome opponent, and could be a real asset for the Crows, if he threw his weight around as in the second Geelong game or the game where he laid 13 tackles (Carlton?). There's gotta be something amiss with his motivation when he goes a-missing.
    2) Agree again, mentioned above. He did in the PF what Houli did in the GF.

    3) this strikes me as very unfairly harsh on CC.
    As I type, I'm a day behind on posting and haven't caught up, but we might never know the real reasons why CC is going. If he misses his family and thinks he'll be a happier man in Brisbane, fair enough.
     
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  5. CrowBloke

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    1) o_O :D 200m?
    If he does, he's running around in circles. No ground that long.
    2) I think his tackling and defensive pressure look lazy --- he's capable of second- and third- efforts but isn't consistent with them.
    3) Agree. Like Chicken Man, Motlop was everywhere in the PF. Very annoying at the time.

    4) I have a confession to make :oops: --- I wasn't happy when we got Eddie and especially Pods. I thought they were Geelong-rejects and had to be for some good reason. Pods has been good for the club and Eddie has become a star, a trickster-goal-snapping-genius. Part of Eddie's rise might come from being happier about being closer to family/friends.
    If CC blooms similarly, good on him and will be Brizzy's gain, bigtime, you never know.

    If Motlop improves, he'll be a good get for us.
     
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    :D bloody funny and mostly true unfortunately.
     
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  7. CrowBloke

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    Sounds good on face value, but it's not up to Eddie to get the best out of Motlop --- it's up to Motlop, if he joins us. Eddie and the club can only do so much.
    Eddie mentored CC who was also good mates with JJ (who's good mates with everybody, if you believe him o_O), but neither knew about CC's intention. Apparently.
    I don't think we've seen the best of CC who might never achieve his potential and play consistently. We'll find out, in time.
     
  8. Slippery Pete

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    Like everyone in the Motlop family, this bloke does not have a non-preferred side.

    If I have to watch him do field-kick checksides every week, we better not be paying him big money.
     
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    I'm pretty sure there are 200k of reasons why charlie is leaving. Dont agree witb players leaving in contract especially in a good environment. Manup and play 1 more year, then i dont have a problem in him leaving.
     
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    After, I think.
     
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    What if it's partner-related? What can the bloke do? Happy wife (partner), happy life.
     

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  12. Murray2503

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    Come on dude. Adelaide a bloody great place to live. Look at today, perfect. Sure the winters are shit here but there are worse places to live in the world. The major drawback of adelade is the job situation but it has great food, weather and beaches.
     
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  13. CrowBloke

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    Sad, but often the case. He has a good grasp of team patterns and knows where to be, but his disposal .... and tackling ... and he's built like a stick-insect but not as tough :(.
    Improved in the last 6-8 games, but his GF was awful, like many. :(:( :'(
     
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    A few like that in all teams, really.
    eg Atkins, even Tex ...
     
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    Depends what the alternatives are.

    How creative we can get.

    We know levers going. We know Cameron wants out. We know Rockliff wants out, we know Ablett and Geelong want Ablett back at Geelong, we know Motlop isn’t wanted at Geelong. We know Gibbs wants to come back to Adelaide.

    Given our circumstances and their circumstances we should be heavily involved in everything since we have the best trade value to fascilitate what the other clubs are trying to do.

    Get creative crows, don’t put all your eggs in one basket like we did with Gibbs last yr.

    Honestly it seemed like we had 1 dude trying to do everything last yr and could only focus on the Gibbs deal and once that fell through that was that. We need a team of about 20 working on this to get the absolute best ready made players for next yr as we are in a premiership window and need to replace whatever we lose and then some.
     
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    .. to follow on, we weren’t getting Darren jarman until some genius at the time came up with one of the more complex trades I have ever heard of at the time. If we didn’t get him we don’t get 2 premierships and probably sit here as the most unsuccessful club in the comp along with freo.

    Make good things happen AFC. I see this as an opportunity to get rid of a couple of trouble makers that are being paid on potential.

    I have beeen a cc fan since day 1. Said he was a star and a player you play every week until he gets better. I also said he’s the type of player that normally the crows don’t get, real flashy, fast, tough and game breaking. But if the environment we built around him, the love from Eddie, the stupid celebration he and the captain Tex do after either of them score a goal isn’t enough for him to want to stay, good luck to the club who get him next.

    I honestly don’t see him being as good anywhere else as he was for us. Like a lot of the others who have left.
     
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    Brodie Smith is near-irreplaceable, he's that good. BIG loss for us (I'd like to replay the GF with Smith and Gov fit, but :( :'().
    Motlop could run off the back of the square at centre bounces, but not do Smith's role, not consistently.
     
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    Especially this season, really nailed the balance between attack and defence...without him our defence looked impotent on the rebound as his replacement was crap.

    Forget Lever and Cameron...Smith is the player we need to replace the most.

    I don't think a defence of Talia, Hartigan, Doedee, Brown, Laird, Kelly has anywhere near enough rebound and skill.

    The 7th defender replacing Smith will likely be an inferior or highly inexperienced model.

    On top of that, we must push Brown and Kelly to contribute offensively or there is only room for one of them.
     
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    Smith structurally is our best player and was in the form of his career. Losing smith and gov killed us along with then picking the slowest player on our list otten as a replacement. Add in walker and talia playing injured and copping injuries to cc and brown in game and we were dead in the water. But some of the performances from key players was inexcusable.
     
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    I thought about that every time I watched him play. He has resting-unhappy-face.
    Always seemed to me like he was angry or on the verge of it.
    Maybe, just maybe, his PF performance was after he'd made his decision and he played like a champ with a free-er, happier mindset?
     
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    Friday this week...then there's still a 3 day matching period for RFA's.
     
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    Good posting.
    I don't know. Who does, except those inside the dealing?
    There's been a lot of good points made for and against.
    If we get him and he doesn't improve, at least we know what we're getting.
    If he does improve, even half as much as Eddie, he'd be very good for us.
     
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