MRP / Trib. MRP 2019

[FreoGirl]

Can’t see the tribunal going over an umpires head but hope to be pleasantly surprised. If he is missing this week then we are no certainties.

Softed suspension ever.


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[CakeEater]

Can’t see the tribunal going over an umpires head but hope to be pleasantly surprised. If he is missing this week then we are no certainties.

Especially not their up and coming field umpire De Booy mate

 

[yoong]

Eagles put in a good argument I thought.
“McGovern’s action is ok, it’s the chair and fence’s fault for being there.”

 

[yoong]

Don’t look like a friendly tribunal panel. Reckon sonny is toast.

 

[serial_thrilla]

To the eagles board!





Providing we win our challenge haha

Some quality memes over there. We need to up our game.

 

[sumavich]

That whole forum is a meme

 

[Freoforever86]

Just wish Gov got 2. Be nice for us not to kick to him for 30 intercept marks

 

[FreoBraddles]

Freo have forwarded a letter from Lockhart hoping to use it as evidence.

Arguing the intentional ruling and claiming negligible force - hopefully Lockhart’s letter goes well to prove this.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

"The Dockers will argue Walters' headbutt wasn't intentional and of insufficient force to warrant suspension. "

Was defs intentional, was clearly insufficient force to warrant suspension however...

 

[kingswood71]

If the week stands, so be it. He should just stop doing dumb sh*t!...no doubt his headbutt last year will be raised!
Likely was insufficent force however...

 

[Randomizor]

AFL counsel are trying to say the umpires evidence trumps that of Lockhart’s? How does that even begin to make sense?

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Fair play from the Melbourne medico, surely a null medical report confirms insufficient force?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

AFL counsel are trying to say the umpires evidence trumps that of Lockhart’s? How does that even begin to make sense?

Lols

Lockhart: "When there was a free kick, i was like, s**t, what I have done. Pretty stoked to get the free"
Umpire: "It was a vicious attack your honour, he lined him up with intent to kill and hit with the force of cyclone"

Tribunal: "10 WEEKS, WHAT A THUG"

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Yeah, umpire coming out and saying he thinks he should be suspended means we are ****ed

 

[serial_thrilla]

Umpire Deboy says the impact was "low".
Didn't believe the force was negligible, believed the act was deliberate.


Since when are force and intent related in the MRP system????

 

[Hazelsnuts]

Eagles put in a good argument I thought.
“McGovern’s action is ok, it’s the chair and fence’s fault for being there.”

Heard that too.
Their argument was if he pushed Guelfi anywhere else on the ground and it wouldn’t have been an issue - No s**t ya doorknobs!!!
That’s the reason he got reported as he pushed him over the line into the fence and/or chair.
Last time I looked at the oval I didn’t see any fences or chairs congregated in the middle for a player to be pushed into ..... FFS.

 

[Nothing]

Yeah, umpire coming out and saying he thinks he should be suspended means we are ******

The umpire reported him, of course he thought that. It *shouldn't* mean anything.

 

[Randomizor]

Fair play from the Melbourne medico, surely a null medical report confirms insufficient force?

Well since the medical report often trumps all in AFL land then Walters should be safe

 

[Fat Nyfe]

AFL tribunal is like a high school debate where everyone puts on a bad fitting suit jacket and pretends like they’re a professional for the day

 

[Outshined]

Not sure how West Coast didn't get McGovern's lifted.

Seeing the umpire's testimony, we may be cooked too.

Ridiculous suspensions.

 

[nurries]

I think it’s going to be upheld

 

[Purple Jesus]

Not sure how West Coast didn't get McGovern's lifted.

Seeing the umpire's testimony, we may be cooked too.

Ridiculous suspensions.

Govs was deserved but Lockhart should win an Emmy for that head throwback.

 

[Freoforever86]

AFL counsel are trying to say the umpires evidence trumps that of Lockhart’s? How does that even begin to make sense?

The AFL will never publicly scrutinize an umpire. Big reason why they’ll not improve.

In American sports, all their decisions are heavily judged. They get a lot more right too

 

[PapaJ]

Well since the medical report often trumps all in AFL land then Walters should be safe

Medical report is only relevant if they're taking consequence in to consideration, which they don't ... oh wait, yes they do, they always do ... except sometimes they don't, its the intent, but only when intent can't be determined which is what the guidelines state, that it's about the outcome and the intent of the action and sufficient force to warrant outcomes of intent that is what the intent is. So the outcome doesn't matter in this instance if Michael Christian doesn't want it to, except when he does.

It's quite clear really, I don't see where the issue is.

 

[kingswood71]

So it was the second bit on the video where they came together and not the first...